chevelle build sheets

jimclemens · #1 03-27-2007, 04:16 AM

FOR THOSE CONCERNED WITH REPRODUCTION 1970 CHEVELLE BUILD SHEETS. HELLO, MY NAME IS JIM CLEMENS. I AM THE ONE ADVERTISING IN HEMMING'S MOTOR NEWS. I HAVE BEEN IN THE CORVETTE AND CHEVROLET LITERATURE BUSINESS SINCE 1988. JUST SO EVERYONE READING WILL KNOW, I AM NOT TRYING TO HIDE FROM ANYONE. FOR THOSE INTERESTED, THE '70 CHEVELLE BUILD SHEETS I OFFER ARE ADVERTISED AS A QUALITY REPRODUCTION PIECE. NOT ORIGINAL. THEY ARE MADE TO COMPLEMENT A RESTORATION, JUST AS ANY OTHER REPRODUCTION PART, RESTAMPED ENGINE OR REPAINTED CAR. IF ANYONE OUT THERE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WHAT I DO, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL. (321) 639-8431. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH VINTAGE AUTOMOBILES FOR QUITE SOME TIME. IF OTHER HAVE REMARKS THEY WILL POST, PLEASE BE WELL INFORMED ON WHAT YOU SAY BEFORE YOU PUT IT IN WRITING. I ONLY OFFER THE ITEM, I AM NOT THE ONE ALTERING THE CAR OR MISREPRESENTING THE CAR. I DO HAVE FORMS THAT ARE FILLED OUT WITH PROOF OF OWNERSHIP AND OTHER INFORMATION, PRIOR TO MAKING ANY BUILD SHEET. THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ. JIM CLEMENS - ROCKLEDGE, FL.

**olredalert** · #2 03-27-2007, 04:24 AM

--------For what its worth, I have known Jim for a long time and as far as I am concerned he is one of the good guys. Hope I dont get slammed as some here seem ready to prejudge the people who supply stuff that helps a resto but in reality is easy to pick from the real thing........Bill S

**mockingbird812** · #3 03-27-2007, 05:42 AM

Bill - having had the opportunity to speak with you in Scottsdale this January I appreciate what you are saying. But there are a couple of things that concern me with Mr. Clemens posting. There is a big difference between a repro part for a car such as an exhaust manifold or a repro car brochure and a buildsheet which may be misrepresented or mistaken for a real one and add significant value to a car. Your statement "I AM NOT THE ONE ALTERING THE CAR OR MISREPRESENTING THE CAR." is merely turning a blind eye to the rampant proliferation of fake and misrepresented cars. You may not intend for the item to be misused, but more often than not they do NOT end up being used to just "COMPLEMENT A RESTORATION".

I have been fortunate so far to have never been burned by fake docs (altho I've seen plenty), but I have seen many decent folks get burned and it saddens me. I believe (my opinion) that it is dangerous to put repro buildsheets in the same category as reproduction parts for a restoration. I suppose its your right to sell them, but don't delude yourself into thinking that they will be used for honest purposes most of the time.

And finally, you come across quite threatening with a statement like this..."IF OTHER HAVE REMARKS THEY WILL POST, PLEASE BE WELL INFORMED ON WHAT YOU SAY BEFORE YOU PUT IT IN WRITING." Maybe you don't frequent these forums much, but the primary purpose is to have people comment on your postings. You may not agree, like, or support the responses, but that is how it works.

JoeG · #4 03-27-2007, 05:49 AM

It's a little late to try to fix the misrepresentations from the past, but if these copy buildsheets are being done as to complete a restoration,why can't a paper with a watermark be used, which can't be seen unless held up to the light. --If only for display purposes....Just curious.......

COPO427 · #5 03-27-2007, 05:55 AM

Under a black light. You know a watermark will never fly when there's $$ to be made.

JoeG · #6 03-27-2007, 06:00 AM

That's my point--If used for "display" or just to complete a restoration any type of non-visible watermark shouldn't be a problem...........

COPO427 · #7 03-27-2007, 05:52 AM

Sure would be interesting to see the print on those repos since I printed buildsheets in the 70's at GM.

L78M22Rag · #8 03-27-2007, 09:17 AM

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FOR THOSE INTERESTED, THE '70 CHEVELLE BUILD SHEETS I OFFER ARE ADVERTISED AS A QUALITY REPRODUCTION PIECE. NOT ORIGINAL. THEY ARE MADE TO COMPLEMENT A RESTORATION, JUST AS ANY OTHER REPRODUCTION PART, RESTAMPED ENGINE OR REPAINTED CAR..... I DO HAVE FORMS THAT ARE FILLED OUT WITH PROOF OF OWNERSHIP AND OTHER INFORMATION, PRIOR TO MAKING ANY BUILD SHEET.

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Jim, I believe you're misusing the term "REPRODUCTION" for your buildsheets. If you were merely reproducing an original buildsheet, no one would be misled... but we all know a reproduced buildsheet would be unnecessary if someone had the original. What does "PROOF OF OWNERSHIP" have to do with this topic? If you had proof or documentation on a car (like a POP) and re-produced a buildsheet accordingly, nobody would be harmed... but many would still have a problem with that if it was represented as being an original buildsheet.

Would you have a problem if a terrorist claimed... "I'm innocent. I only made the bomb, someone else used it"

**chads454Ls6** · #9 03-27-2007, 09:24 AM

Jim,i was told you also do protecto plates as well. What drivetrain is put on the pop? Does that document have any kind of stamp for fake or repop? Just trying to get informed.

COPO427 · #10 03-27-2007, 05:32 PM

You guys all know that it comes down to this.
Joe Blow buys a US 350 Chevelle and clones it to a LS6 or a L78. Or even change a SS396/350 car to the big $$ makers. LS5,LS6,L78. The difference is mega mega $$$$$ difference. SO that's why they need the build sheet. Build 1 clone per year and you don't have to work for a living. Build a handfull of clones and you can retire. This isn't rocket science. If everyone just buys Canadian Chevelles then they can call GM vintage for the option list and this would stop people buying clones as the real McCoy. Then you may see the clones advertised as cones and the prices would be lower than the real cars.

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