Aircraft pics - Page 37

**427TJ** · #**361** 09-18-2007, 07:16 PM

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Just goes to show you, there are bold pilots and there are old pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots.

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Dave: Fuc*in'-A Bubba! (As the Gus Grissom character said in the movie "The Right Stuff.")

Belair: The B-52 pilot flew the airplane far too aggressively, as you might have already realized. His last pass down the runway was to be flown as a fighter-type pitch-up maneuver of the kind flown by the Thunderbirds or Blue Angels as they approach the field for landing. The B-52 can do that but not nearly as aggressively. So the B-52 guy wracked the airplane into a very aggressive climbing u-turn (the pitch-up maneuver) putting enough G on the airframe to bleed-off almost all of the airspeed but for a few knots. When he rolled-out on downwind--the opposite direction--and at about 1500 feet, the airplane was all out of airspeed. He had used his energy (the airspeed) in the aggressive pitch-up and it was then too slow to maintain level flight upon completion of the maneuver. He rolled wings-level and pulled back on the control yoke to hold the nose (the whole airplane, that is) level but there wasn't enough forward airspeed for the airplane to maintain level flight. He kept holding the nose up and it quickly entered a basic stall condition. Stalls often develop into spins as one or the other wing loses lift and drops, and that's why the B-52 rolls left (it could have gone right just as easily) in the video. Not enough airspeed means not enough lift being made by the wing which means the B-52 became a huge dead weight at the end of that pitch-up maneuver and just fell out of the sky.

So as Dave pointed out, there really are no old, bold pilots. ("Bold" in these cases means stupid, not brave or appropriately aggressive as in wartime or in a Thunderbirds or Blue Angels display.)

Belair62 · #**362** 09-19-2007, 07:12 AM

Thanks Teej...you would "think" even a hotdogger would understand basic stuff like lift and stall.

**427TJ** · #**363** 09-20-2007, 09:50 PM

You know Belair, it's usually the hot-doggers who (often willfully) forget/ignore the basics first. They're too busy being cool and macho for their buddies and then KABOOOM and it's all over. It'll happen again.

Ngtflyr · #**364** 10-09-2007, 07:49 PM

check out this video: Near Miss

nuch_ss396 · #**365** 10-09-2007, 10:02 PM

WOW! That ought to

the ba-jesus out of you.

Nuch

Ngtflyr · #**366** 10-10-2007, 09:18 AM

I've had a few birdstrikes in my day. Ones at night are best because you don't see it coming usually. The one below musta got their attention.

Date: 10/03/2007 1240 CD

Program: Eaglemed
6601 West Pueblo
Wichita, KS

Type: AS350
Tail #: N917EM

Weather: Clear. Not a factor

Team: No injuries reported. No patient.

Description:
Bird Strike

Additional Info:
6' Turkey Buzzard made 2 foot by 1 foot hole in nose of aircraft.
Feathers did enter cabin, no injuries, all crew wearing helmets.

Birdstrike

Ngtflyr · #**367** 10-10-2007, 09:26 AM

Of course it could be worse:

Buzzard takes down 206
Buzzard 1 Helo 0

sixbrl440 · #**368** 10-11-2007, 09:13 AM

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how did the pilot screw up in that crash?

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Ran out of altitude and airspeed at the same time.

nuch_ss396 · #**369** 10-21-2007, 10:26 PM

Here's one from the experimental category. This is the XB-70
Valkryie program. A multi-mach bomber project. A few
things of note here are the articulating main landing gear,
movable wing tips amd six engines. This particular plane
later crashed and sadly killed it's pilots. If you look
closely as the Valkryie is landing, you will see a B-58 Hustler
chase plane

. Also, if memory serves me correctly,
the plane flexed so buch during sustained mach flight that
the white paint peeled off. You can see the missing paint
in the final shots of the video.

Steve

XB-70 Valkryie

**427TJ** · #**370** 10-22-2007, 12:57 AM

A neat airplane doomed by the advancement in Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM) development. That, plus its incredible appetite for fuel. The crash occurred when test pilot Joe Walker got too close to the XB-70s down-turned wingtips and his F-104 entered the XB's wingtip vorticies. The F-104 quickly rolled across the top of the XB-70, knocking off most of the XB's two vertical fins and then the F-104 fell away in flames, killing Walker. The XB flew on for a short time until it finally went out of control. One pilot safely ejected (Al White) but the copilot's (Carl Cross) ejection capsule malfunctioned, trapping him inside the falling XB-70 and he died on impact. The remaining XB-70 (there were only two) is on display at the USAF Museum.