Go Back   The Supercar Registry > General Discussion > Supercar/Musclecar Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 05-26-2009, 09:16 PM
camaro41701 camaro41701 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: KY
Posts: 56
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

I usually just step in and read on this forum.But,this topic seems to come up a lot on different forums.So I have a question on this.If I jig my car up so everything can be replaced,jig the hidden #'s,serial #,and cowl tag,then cut around each 2-3 inches and replace everything else what would be the difference?Numbers have not been moved and still attached to some of the original metal.I know this extreme.But not much different than shown.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 05-26-2009, 09:29 PM
Jim Ferron Jim Ferron is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 458
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

Of course this is a rebody...
__________________
www.68hurstolds.com 'Russ Dunmire Hurst Olds'
www.classicperformance.com 'Cars'
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 05-26-2009, 10:25 PM
firstgenaddict's Avatar
firstgenaddict firstgenaddict is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 5,596
Thanks: 161
Thanked 949 Times in 459 Posts
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

[ QUOTE ]

My point is, if this Camaro was fixed using another car would it be a rebody??....I understand how the law is written, but I think any judge would understand if a person bought both cars to save one...the law should be based on bad intention..or fraud...If you save all of the original car that can be saved..even if it is just a small portion....you did not re-body the car...(of course it must have the part with the VIN) in my opinion....

[/ QUOTE ]

No I wouldn't consider this a rebody, personally I would rather have one done this way then done with all repro metal.
__________________
~JAG~
NCRS#65120
68 GTO HO 4 spd Alpine Blue /Parchment 2 owner car
#21783 71 Corvette LT1 45k miles Orig paint - Brandshatch Green - National Top Flight - last known 71 LT1 built.
71 Corvette LT1 42k miles Original paint - Black - black leather - only black LT1 known to exist.
NUMEROUS Lemans blue Camaros,
Monza Red and Daytona Yellow Corvettes
& a Chevelle or two...
Survivors, restored cars, & other photos
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/myphotos
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 05-27-2009, 03:26 AM
njsteve's Avatar
njsteve njsteve is online now
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NJUSA
Posts: 8,345
Thanks: 8
Thanked 2,713 Times in 837 Posts
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

The law is written and interpretted by prosecutors and judges very strictly. Whether it is fair in application or not is unfortunately, irrelevent.

If people think there should be an exception for restoration purposes, you need to start contacting your local congresspersons and ask them to draft an exception.

Just because you don't think the law should apply doesn't mean it won't be applied. I imagine there are a whole lot of people in prison who followed that principle.

For example, the law of Bank Robbery is pretty straightforward = robbing a federally insured bank. I remember a case where the badguy actually tried to use that type of defense in a bank robbery case. He didn't think the law applied to him. It went something like this: "I wasn't robbing a bank, I was taking money from people and it wasn't their money, therefore you must find me innocent and set me free."

It was a 15 minute jury deliberation (including lunch) GUILTY.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 05-27-2009, 03:58 AM
kwhizz kwhizz is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: LS Make'um Better Guy
Posts: 7,746
Thanks: 853
Thanked 668 Times in 201 Posts
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

[ QUOTE ]
The law is written and interpretted by prosecutors and judges very strictly. Whether it is fair in application or not is unfortunately, irrelevent.

If people think there should be an exception for restoration purposes, you need to start contacting your local congresspersons and ask them to draft an exception.

Just because you don't think the law should apply doesn't mean it won't be applied. I imagine there are a whole lot of people in prison who followed that principle.

For example, the law of Bank Robbery is pretty straightforward = robbing a federally insured bank. I remember a case where the badguy actually tried to use that type of defense in a bank robbery case. He didn't think the law applied to him. It went something like this: "I wasn't robbing a bank, I was taking money from people and it wasn't their money, therefore you must find me innocent and set me free."

It was a 15 minute jury deliberation (including lunch) GUILTY.

[/ QUOTE ]


The Jurors are obviously more "Intelligent" on the East coast ........unlike the first O.J. trial ....



__________________


The Best things in life......Aren't Things
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 05-27-2009, 04:27 AM
x  Baldwin  Motion's Avatar
x Baldwin Motion x  Baldwin  Motion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 41N 72 18.5W Sag Harbor NY
Posts: 6,640
Thanks: 218
Thanked 179 Times in 68 Posts
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

[ QUOTE ]
Of course this is a rebody...

[/ QUOTE ]



Lets see what you are starting with, it looks like a firewall with numbers. So, all you need to do is attach a body. Not a rebody? There is NO CAR IN THIS PICTURE!!!

Just pointing out the irony of the law and what some consider not a rebody... JMHO
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 05-27-2009, 04:30 AM
The Dude The Dude is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Detroit
Posts: 287
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

73-79 Ford pickups have the VIN tag riveted to the door. So If I remove the door am I committing a felony? Or if I change the door, which happens often, I am committing the same? If I put the door on a different truck is this now a rebody?
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-27-2009, 06:40 AM
njsteve's Avatar
njsteve njsteve is online now
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NJUSA
Posts: 8,345
Thanks: 8
Thanked 2,713 Times in 837 Posts
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

[ QUOTE ]
73-79 Ford pickups have the VIN tag riveted to the door. So If I remove the door am I committing a felony? Or if I change the door, which happens often, I am committing the same? If I put the door on a different truck is this now a rebody?

[/ QUOTE ]

Lets see a photo of what you're referring to. Are you sure that's not the body tag instead of the 16 digit VIN tag visible in the windshield frame of post-1968 vehicles?
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 05-27-2009, 07:10 AM
SuperNovaSS SuperNovaSS is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 6,561
Thanks: 391
Thanked 700 Times in 364 Posts
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

71-up Broncos have the VIN on the glovebox door. Talk about easy to rebody! Blazers and GM pickups 68-72 have the VIN on the driver's door. Many Broncos and Blazers/Pickups have state issued VINs because of this.

Jason
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 05-27-2009, 11:24 AM
67 GTO 67 GTO is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 82
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Is this a rebody?

[ QUOTE ]
Lets see a photo of what you're referring to. Are you sure that's not the body tag instead of the 16 digit VIN tag visible in the windshield frame of post-1968 vehicles?

[/ QUOTE ]
The windshield VIN location applied to cars, not trucks. An example? 76 GMC is on the door jamb near the striker. IMO, Ford's placement clearly wasn't very well thought out (bordering on semi-retarded!) but the door is definitely where they chose to rivet the VIN tag.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

O Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.