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The fluid is either a lesser Viscosity,or not as much is entered into the cylinder as was origianlly.
I bought 2 sets in the past,and both puked out out in performance and handling as time wore on.. I went back to the distrubutor to complain,and his reply was basically verbatim as I stated earlier. GM only licensed the design..not the quality or the way it was re-manufactured. |
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Bob has been a good provider and has been involved in the hobbie for years. I don't think we should condemn him or his business on this one issue. I would hope in the future he would clarify his auctions so that people don't pay outrageous prices for commonly found items which cost much less. He is a good guy, and would hope he would clear this matter up rather quickly. No he may not of intentionally mislead someone but a simple statement such as "Dated Reproduction Shocks" would prevent a reoccurrence. That is not too much to ask.
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Bob has been a good provider and has been involved in the hobbie for years. I don't think we should condemn him or his business on this one issue. I would hope in the future he would clarify his auctions so that people don't pay outrageous prices for commonly found items which cost much less. He is a good guy, and would hope he would clear this matter up rather quickly. No he may not of intentionally mislead someone but a simple statement such as "Dated Reproduction Shocks" would prevent a reoccurrence. That is not too much to ask. [/ QUOTE ] Then again, he may be thinking "I made $1200 profit off a $300 set of shocks" and do it again with more shocks or other parts. James
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Posted by mr70: The fluid is either a lesser Viscosity,or not as much is entered into the cylinder as was origianlly. I bought 2 sets in the past,and both puked out out in performance and handling as time wore on.. I went back to the distrubutor to complain,and his reply was basically verbatim as I stated earlier. GM only licensed the design..not the quality or the way it was re-manufactured. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize we're talking about a spiral shock, that most would agree was inferior even when it was originally introduced? I remember when dad first put the Polyglass on our Camaro after running BFG radials on it and all his other cars for years...we thought we'd screwed the front end up, but in reality it was just that bias-plys paled in comparison to the current radial tire technology we were used to...seems kinda like the same scenario to me... ![]() |
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It is the same scenerio. Drive the nylon thumpers in the cold!
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I like the comparison to the dated glass,nobody seems to question why we buy it and it is accepted in the "game" of restoration. I would object to a vendor passing it off as as NOS and date coded. I see lots of ebay vendors selling NEW parts that are still available through Gm as NOS,items such as brake drums and a body sway bars. "Caveat Emptor" still applies.
I brough two NOS bumpers to a plater a year ago and wa explaining to him that they were NOS. He said they were "rejects" and that is why they were never sold years ago.
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Well I guess we gave you guys something to chat about. When I saw what price the shocks sold for I knew this would come up. With a 495.00 reserve I figured it was obvious that they were not NOS. We always state in all of our auction if a part is NOS, GM, or original used.It was never our intention to deceive anyone. I have to answer to a higher power than any of you. I contacted the buyer and told him we would not hold him to the price and if he wants them, to phone us. Have not heard back yet. The reason I didn't state repro is that makes it sound like a readily available part and it is not. Actually the cost of dating them is quite high and I was trying to determine what you guys would pay to see if it was worth inventorying them or not. Contrary to what some may think they are not simply stamped. Try that sometime and all you will get is a dent in your shock. Again it was never our intention to deceive anyone. Several people emailed us and I answered each persons question with an honest answer. I wouldn't think of doing otherwise. By the way, there are a lot of people out there that would rather not know when they are buying parts, whether it be dated glass,a numbered block, repro this or that, if the quality is there and the judges get don't catch it, isn't that the point? How many people have an ALL original car really??!! If you don't know for sure, than you can think what you want, but if I tell you it is a repro part you will know for sure. If your car has an original fender on it or a GM replacement fender installed 2 weeks after the car was sold new because the mailman bumped into it is it really a big deal? To some it is and there are guys that would rather not know the details. If I figure out a way to flatten a big block dipstick do you think I can get 500.00 for it if it is GM ?
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If you don't know for sure, than you can think what you want, but if I tell you it is a repro part you will know for sure. [/ QUOTE ] Huh? I can't think of anyone who doesn't want to know if the parts they are buying are original GM or reproductions. ![]()
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[ QUOTE ] If you don't know for sure, than you can think what you want, but if I tell you it is a repro part you will know for sure. [/ QUOTE ] Huh? I can't think of anyone who doesn't want to know if the parts they are buying are original GM or reproductions. ![]() [/ QUOTE ] I agree. I certainly would want to know if I am buying a reproduction part. Knowing that information will dictate the price I am willing to pay!
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Thanks for chiming in Bob. I think a better way would be to explain on the auction that they are repo and that the repo does not come dated. Then explain that you painstakenly dated them for that perfect look. Explain to them that you can't just stamp them.
Bob is now going over to my T.A convert that he is restoring for me and kicking the door in for the grief I am giving him......... |
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