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Welp.............if everyone wants a 'new' 69 Camaro why not buy one in the crate? They're available now and you can dump any motor, tranny, interior, etc. into it that your heart desires. They are certainly more original looking then the concept.
The other question is: Will GM be financially solvent to even build the concept in 09?
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LateBrake,
I hear ya..It sucks getting old! ![]() I think experience is everything. Way back when I first got a Z/28 I didn't want it because it was sexy. I wanted it because it was nasty! My mom tried everything she could to ruin that deal because the car scared her. It looked agressive. It sounded aggressive. It was agressive. The younger people are right though. The concept car has sexy lines. And for 25K, probably as sexy as your going to get. I just don't like my "fun" cars to be pretty. I want them to scare people. ![]()
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I, too, owned a 69Z back in the day,..just out of high school and heading to college. It wasn't the fastest car on the street but it was certainly the coolest. I like the new design and I think GM, as mentioned before in this thread, has to look to the future not the past. If buyers under 40, under 30, love the design, then GM is heading in the right direction. However, they shouldn't wait until 2008 to put it on the street. Tool up for it now and put it in Chevy showrooms. I know the dealers are screaming for it. Now, when is Pontiac coming out with a new, 2nd generation, Firebird?
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Very well said. It's the emotional reaction that sells cars like the new Mustang and (possibly) the Challenger, especially among the baby-boomers. If Chevy did it right a retro '69 Camaro would sell like hotcakes, especially if it had 400+ HP under the hood. It's all about the emotional reaction and the new Camaro concept just doesn't have that---yet. We can only hope that if enough pressure is applied by guys like us Chevy might redesign it into the emotion-stirring street machine that the '69 was and still is.
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Charlie....Any idea of a website to let GM know what we think? A bunch of people at work would respond of they could find the forum to do it.
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From a posting on Camaros.net:
.....and now you're going to get that chance. I just got done talking to a colleague of mine in GM's Vehicle Configuration department. His name is Sam Mona and he is the Senior Designing Engineer on the Zeta-Lite program. He is in the process of gathering all the feedback he can on the 5th gen car and forwarding it on to the likes of Scott Settlemire, Tom Peters, Mike Simcoe and the rest of the C5 team. The program has passed through a critical stage here at GM and all signs point to it being a "go". It's now over in Australia where the bulk of the engineering and design work will take place. Sam is very interested in hearing your comments and he strongly urges you to contact him with your thoughts on the concept. His email at GM is; [email protected] Keep it professional and constuctive only, tell them your likes and dislikes and if you have any recommendations to resolve whatever you don't like. |
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You Boomers crack me up! If you want a '69 Camaro, go out and buy one! This 5th gen concept is a very good rendition in what a Camaro should be. Did you guys complain when the 1970 model came out? Just asking because it looked nothing like the '69 either. How about the '78 -'79 model which was a boat anchor but made GM tons of cash because it sold so well.
This board obviously attracts those who like 1st gen Camaros (myself included) but when it comes to good business decisions with respect to the new Camaro, GM must also think of those who like 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen Camaros let alone attracting new customers. The new Challenger is nice but after they sell the first few thousand to you old timers, it will get 'long in the tooth' quickly. There is no way that car will sell 150,000 units a year on a continual basis.
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I agree, first gen camaro's should be kept as the original and the new ones should be totally different to attract the new generation of camaro enthusiests. If you want a 69 so bad buy one and refit it with new technology.
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Funny you mention that Hylton...I originally thought the new Camaro bombed, until I talked to my little bro about it. I'm 30 and into the 1st gen Camaros (and old muscle in general) while he's 22 and pretty into his 4th SS and the like...I felt the Camaro concept was too *Buck Rogers* for my taste but the new Chally hit the mark, but my brother fell in love with the Camaro concept and thought the Chally looked *too* old?! So maybe GM is onto (or on!) something aiming at a younger market? The only thing will be *not* pricing it too far out of reach of that younger market...
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