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I thought is okay in the Vette world to restamp blocks??? Where did I hear that or read it?
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Bruce that does sound familiar dosen't it. Just a longshot and I am VERY tired, but didn't a Vettefest Judge come on and tell us that the motors are judged by "appearing correct" and a restamp is worth more points then a wrong or no stamp (decked) block ?
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I think that's what I remember...Good call Chris.
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Sorry as I know some here condone them but the evil you're referring to is called a 'restoration engine' and is acceptable in 'Vette circles..
To me personally just a fancy name for 'perfect forgery'.. ![]() ~ Pete |
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Irvin, what you found was a '66 full size chevy 427 425hp (L72), which is still nothing to sneeze at, and depending on it's condition, still a good buy at $3,500. I wouldn't dismiss it just yet. If it still has the original heads, they are worth the better part of that price.
Restamps in the Corvette world seem very common, and there are those who advertise such services, but for the most part is still looked down upon. I wouldn't exactly call it acceptable. As far as restamps getting more points than a no-stamp or decked block, that is true, but it has to look the part. I'm sure there are not to many owners going to raise there hand and say "no, wait, thats actually a restamp" so what do you do? If they can't tell it's restamped they get full points, but there are a lot of factors that are considered when they judge those pads, so it has to be darn convincing, or like Pete said a "perfect forgery".
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I discover it to be a ID code with a 3869942 Casting. [/ QUOTE ] Could you please try to get all the pad numbers(partial vin and Tonawanda date) from this block and the casting date? An ID block is just rare as an IK block IMO. Steve
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Aloha guys what a dissapointing day.I finally get to look at the engine & I discover it to be a ID code with a 3869942 Casting.I tell the guy that its not a Corvette engine Then he starts to tell me to look at the first letters which was TT but I tell him it is the last letters that are the correct ones.Then he goes on to say that he thought that it was a 427 425 66 Corvette engine & he shouldve checked it like I asked him to.But then I find out that he is a restorer of corvettes so how could he make that kind of mistake.Then I ask about the M22 then he says that he already sold it (likely story).But just so happens he has another one to show someone else to buy & it has some kind of Italian M22 gears that are better then GM.If anybody has heard of this please let me know.But as I check the M22 trans it turns out to be a 1970 which I would like to purchase but I was weary already so I wasnt buying.Then he tells me that if no one buys the engine that he was going to deck the block & pay someone in the mainland to send him some original stamps & restamp it with the IK & then put it into a 66 Corvette & that this practice was acceptable in the Corvette world.If anyone is into Corvettes can you please comfirm this because I know in the Camaro World it is not.Thank you all for your help Irvin [/ QUOTE ] Maybe "CRASH" could chime in here, the "italian gear" M22 gears/cases that he refers to are I think from a company called AUTOGEAR. They are said to be much better than the original Muncie parts and are priced as such (higher). So a 1970 M22 with these parts would be "better than new" if anyone were looking for one.
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Yes, as mentioned above ID is a rare piece and worth it.
If those are new production gears in that trans their through Autogear in Syracuse and are cut in Italy. Get as much data as you can and shoot before it's gone. |
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Aloha guys Thanks for all the input but for me when something goes this bad that fast I start for the door who knows what else might be wrong or what might not be in the parts ect.As for the engine pad stamping I know it was TT and at the end ID didnt look at the Date numbers.Also the heads were 65 heads and the whole thing didnt have all the parts and looked to be outside, engine and heads so a total rebuild would be in order also to buy all the parts needed would be way over my budget.I know I would still like a 70 M22 but the trust issue was gone so I am not even thinking twice about purchasing anything.Thanks for all the help and interesting information, you guys Rock.Mahalo Irvin
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Hi Guys, a couple of years ago I bought a M22 Muncie, (confirmed with side cover off) 010 main case, date P1208 and VIN 6S108505. I was told it was from a 66 Corvette. Can post pics as I would like to verify if it is the real thing. Michael.
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