A Nicky Camaro In NJ

[bkhpah]

This board has welcomed people that are making clone cars. It's part of the hobby. If the owner is up front about it. Also it is aware of what is going on in the hobby. If a bogus car is being passed off as a real car and people give a warning as to its authenticity what's wrong with that. I am not going to waste my time chasing a fake. I have done plenty of that. This board has helped far more people than it has hurt. If you think you have a real car it is often determined right or wrong on this site. If someone has felt he had a Yenko, this site has helped to verify it. No charge ever. Try that somewere else. I hope that the Nickey car mentioned in this thread turns out to be real. Good things sometimes happen...BKH

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Hey Joe;
No go-go bars for me, but maybe we hit the SLP joint there in Toms River? I'd like an '02 Firehawk!
M

[Stefano]

Yenko Deuce Registry:
One of our Dlr clients just took a 1999 Firehawk on trade. Off the top of my head, its silver, 6 speed with T-tops 36,000 miles and used as a daily driver. They are asking $18,500.00. Just FYI.

[Camaroinaz]

Muscle Car Jon - You should go to Camaros.net and read the posts from the gentlmen who owns the "68 Z" that is on Cars-on-line. He is not risking the slander charges, because he has consulted with his attorney on the subject, and from what I have read is close to reaching a successful end to his tribulations with "Golden Classics/Future Classics". If I remember correctly from discussions, he called this dealer after seeing the car posted, and the dealer represented the car as original and numbers matching. Only after paying the dealership for the vehicle and having it transported did he find out that it was not legit. Now, he should shoulder some of the blame for not inspecting the car before purchase, but the dealer shoulders even more of the blame for not representing the car for what it was.

As for the quality of this board. As one of those who can not afford one of the real versions of these cars right now, it is at least comforting to know that if I do find myself in a postion one of these days to afford one, that I have a resource by which to check on the pedigree of the vehicle in question. It is also a great forum to learn how to identify these cars. 99.9% of those on the board have been very helpful, and have put up with a lot of BS from people who know nothing of these cars. Without this resource, how many more "real" cars would be sold at inflated costs. The gentlemen who own these rare and desirable vehicles have no vested interest in distributing their knowledge of these vehicles. If we keep one another informed of questionable practices of dealers or private sellers, then maybe some of these clones will not be sold as original cars and maybe someone will be spared the heartache and trouble of finding out their car is one of the "original" numbers matching vehicles that were never made. Sorry for the rambling, but this board has been an immense help to me, and everyone has been very helpful over the last year in responding to my novice questions.

[Rat_Pack]

Jon, I agree with Charley and Brian about what this board does. It helps more people for free than hurts them.

The owner of the car in question made a post that he could not verify the car as a legit Nickey. So he was emailed with the name and phone number of a guy that could help him get his car verified. A prospective buyer called instead, stating the seller told him that he could verify the car. Why do something like that when if it was a legit car the price would have gone up 100%? To me the owner knows this car is not a legit car and he took a chance that the prospective buyer would buy the car and spend the money himself to get it verified and would find out it was bogus. The seller gets his money and the buyer has a very nice Nickey clone for $40k.

By doing this the seller not only ruined the sale to this buyer but ruined his chances or anyones chances of ever getting the car looked at to be verified. The one guy that can verify a Nickey Camaro, and he verified the Nickey Camaro that was at this years reunion plus a couple of other Nickey cars, will not even talk to anyone about verifying this car at Future Classics. The seller has ruined it for anyone wanting this done. All he had to do was contact the person that he was told to and he would have been able to decide for himself whether to have the car verified. All he did was make the contact person mad.

So Jon, is this the way business should be done? The owner/seller of the car ruining a possible sale plus any chance of getting this car verified as a legit Nickey? To me this car is bogus until the guy comes up with legit paperwork that the car was converted to a 427 at Nickey originally and is verified by all previous owners and it will still be questionable because of its known history here...................RatPack................

[Edited by Rat_Pack (01-04-2002 at 01:12 PM).]

[HLZ]

I want to let all know that I did not contact anyone last night about my Nickey. I have consigned the car with Future Classics and have no dealings with any potional buyers.

I run a very busy company and do not have the time to play these games. This is why I am not handling the sale. This subject seems to keep going on and on... let's stop beating a dead horse. It is an excellent replica of a Nickey. I would appreciate anyone going to look at the car and verify it themselves. Please let me know what your findings are..

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

HLZ;
The only person playing a game is you! This stuff about 'unreplaceably Nickey', tracing it back to Chicago, maybe it is/isn't, we're sure it's an original... - that's the game trying to be played on unsuspecting buyers. I'm sorry that it doesn't go over real big here on this sight.
You might ask Nick to change the description on his sight to 'NICKEY Replica'. Good luck with the sale.
M

http://www.futureclassicsnj.com/carlistframe.htm



[Edited by YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY (01-04-2002 at 03:05 PM).]

[HLZ]

Actually, I have called Future Classics regarding the add on web be changed to include "undocumented" Nickey.

I have been able to trace the title back to Chicago and feel this is a great lead to its originality.

How many replica Nickey's have you seen out there and how much do they sell for? How would you value a replica? Where would you place the value?

[Steven J]

Would someone be able to post the VIN for this car ? I know someone that may be able to help with the backround of the car.

[Belair62]

I just sold one that was a very nice car with T.I.,Alum heads,M-22,tach drive,elect fuel pump,p/db,p/s,L88 intake,cragars with Nickey emblems....for a lot less than 30k.It was capable of fooling people but it was always a clone and sold as such.