1967 Camaro Pace Car

[68l30]

Here is a shot of a 67 trim tag with the "hole" .....This was a pretty neat car! Long gone and will stay that way....


Steve

[Zedder]

"The 11 small block Canadian pacecars (out of 22 built, plus the AJ Foyt replacement Pacecar with A/C) weren't even SS'es. They were all LF7 327/210HP Rally sports. Just a little tidbit of little known info.

Don't qoute me the old USCC article that says they were L48 RS/SS'es, because its wrong, I've seen the GM of Canada paperwork on these. None of the SB cars are SS'es."

I can vouch for what Mark is saying...since I am Canadian and my first Camaro at 17 was a Canadian Pace Car - and it was an RS - I've got the GM paperwork on the car to boot. Also, I was contacted by a fellow in Grimsby, Ontario 2 weeks ago who has one also. I can email you his trim tag for proof if you need it BTW, it has the - code after the 5BY also and 0-1 paint.

[matt murphy]

JoeC,

Great info . . . I don't think the 0-1 was a clear coat paint. I thought at first it was, but did they even have clear coat paint then and if so, what would it do for the cars. I believe it could have been a different, brighter, GM White, maybe from a Cadillac, Buick, etc. I was told they did that because it helped the decals stand out on the car better for public viewing from the grand stand or watching them on TV or in the parades.

If the - (dash) is not a stripe delete for the bumblebee and pin stripe, then my second guess is that maybe it is for different shocks or springs for these cars as they were used for parade purposes and they knew these cars would be carrying heavy loads. I have had a few guys say that their pace cars didnt have the right springs or shocks in them and they just replaced them with correct ones.

My guess though is that the - (dash) still had something to do with a paint delete . . . Didn't the '68's have a - (dash) as a paint delete ?? What about some '67 Yenkos with no stripes on them ?? Are there any like that ?? I think it was a paint delete item that just ended up in the 4th or 5th group in '67.

[Kurt S]

Yes, at least 2 of the LF7 Canadian pacers have been found.

I agree - at this point I think the - is just 'Special Instructions'.

And no, Chevy never looked at the trim tag. It was for Fisher only.

[matt murphy]

Kurt,

Any chance someone was at the end of the line (who may have been employed by Fisher Body, or even a plant worker) checking that cars were built like they should have been in reference to the trim tags. With no computers then, humans would need to check for these things. My '67 Pace Car has the white paint on the tag. It is also like Charlies in that it has a 4P code but is a documented 375HP car. Weird stuff happened to those cars and some of it happened for a reason. Why do some of the Festival and Dealer Pace Cars have the 050A, 060A, 061A, and 070A fleet codes and why do some of them not, and why did those codes end up in the 4th or 5th group if they were part of the Pace Car RPO option code. I have a friend that has a '67 Pace car, C-1, with a 061A in the 5th group and her body broadcast sheet has at the bottom . . . FN061A Pace Car Option. I guess if one of the 070A owners had their broadcast copy it might say FN070A Pace Car Option. Why different fleet codes? I have always found these cars to be fascinating because of the challenging facts that should be simple to find out, but aren't. One day, I will be able to sleep at night when these codes are figured out. Someone has to know what these mean, it shouldn't be that difficult. The more we talk about these items together, the better chance we have of figuring them out.

Thanks for your input and Keep It Coming . . .

[Mark_C]

The 0-1 paint code is for the show finish white paint with clear coat over the decals on the door. The dash is anther special instruction that has been rumored to be associated with the blue nose stripe as that was not a standard color. Don't know whay there are different fleet numbers unless they are associated with specific GM sales zones.

[FESTIVAL78]

Just found a guy with a 327 Canadian Pacer bidding on Ebay...TALK ABOUT COINCIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!,Will get his info for the crowd...I was under the impression the Festival decals were installed at the track..Cannot clear coat over stickers that were not even on the car..The truths of the past are dropping like flies on this thread..I love it..Keep it coming..Tom

[Mark_C]

I believe all the festival cars (0-1 code)in 67 left the factory with the decals already on the car. I've seen the preparation instructions for the 67's somewhere that indicated the decals were cleared over to keep the shine up on the cars. Maybe in Donna Crispino's pace car book?

Charley L. has one or the original pace cars he should know for sure.

[FESTIVAL78]

Matt..Original owner of my festival car has story of rear axle replacement after dealer torched off iron bar stock that was welded to the axle tubes..Dealer claimed the car was used in the parade and sat embarrassingly low with a trailer on the back in the parade. They welded the iron in as bumpstops and subsequently damaged the rear axle taking them off. I'd love to see a picture of the bottom of that broadcast copy with "pace car option" on it..please. Mine has white paint on trim tag 04A car. In the 80's we had a ton of mercury cougars around here that had emblems that said Bostonian Edition on them..maybe along the same lines with the dealers getting together for a mass puchase with special stuff?..The springs in my pacer are original and seemingly normal.

[JoeC]

The docs I am looking at are in The Hooper 67-68 Camaro ref book. It has about 15 pages of docs from Chevy and Campbell-Ewald (GM ad agency)on 67 Pace cars. The dates go back to March 1967. Does anyone have vin numbers and build dates of early 67 Pace car's with L78? They look like very early L78's and I am looking for early L78 vin numbers and trim tag dates.