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Some of you guys are going insane (Belair excluded naturally). Who cares if someone is trying to make a clone as real as possible? The guy is admitting it for crying out loud.
I have a question for you guys - if a car has been "back-halved", do you consider it to be a rebody?
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i only had a problem with the "rare" quote. no such thing as a rare clone.
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Will the third seller down the line let it out of the "box" and into a anonymous auction as a"#s matching car"
Why do we focus on "protecting the potential buyer" and in the next breath, brag about the "great deal" we got from some uninformed seller. Did anyone ever tell a seller, "No, man, your asking price for your grandfather's old Camaro is way too low. It's not just a Camaro, it's a numbers matching Yenko, worth at least $200,000 more than you are asking." No, we give him the $10,000 and take the car. We probably even try to negotiate the price down a couple of grand. |
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It's buyer beware. Always has been, always should be. How much responsibility does a buyer of a car have in the purchase? I think there are people who want no responsibility whatsoever when buying a collector car.
I have 2 undocumented cars and bought them because of my own inspection and research. All cars have a history and letter cars are rarely forgotten or untraceable. Someone in the town it came from will remember it. We've all seen fake cars at BJ auctions. Is Craig Jackson ultimately responsible for selling it or is it the buyer for not doing his homework? I would hope that people on this site would be smart enough to do their homework before opening their wallet. If you don't know enough, call someone who does.
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Some of you guys are going insane (Belair excluded naturally). [/ QUOTE ] Heeeres Johnny !!!
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Don't mess with old farts - age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! Bullshit and brilliance only come with age and experience. |
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Belairless on a Good Day..
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Exactly my point, Hylton. Logically, the sense of fairness should extend to both buyer and seller. If it's only for the buyer, then it's probably not about fairness at all. We hear so much rhetoric about "protecting future buyers" when, in reality, I suspect it's more about "protecting current owners".
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ALL buyers should do due diligence. However , a well done restamp can fake out some pretty knowledgeable people. I always bring someone who knows more than me.
I am not trying to say tell a guy his documented Nickey car is worth more! that is not the point. This has nothing to do with price or even added options ........It is about faking an original motor. The point is creating a counterfeit car and passing it off as such down the line. if no one restamped motors, or they got in trouble for such behavior, we could look at stamps and say its matching or not. Instead, we say " well the vin is matching, but is it a restamp? How do the broach marks look? Is that the right Font?" It would be nice to know that what you see and research is what you get. Merry Christmas PS Santa's sleigh...............is a restamp ![]() |
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