1967/1968 Dick Harrell funny cars

[70 copo]

Ed,

GOOD JOB!



Phil

What are the dates of the magazine?

[55chevy]

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What are the dates of the magazine?

[/ QUOTE ] Sometime in 1968

[Rat_Pack]

Tom, I started typing this before all of the above pictures showing car 1 and car 2 made things even more confusing. So bear with me.

First thank you for making another post. I want you to look at the photo of the original Dichk Harrell car the body up that shows the bottom of the drivers side rocker panel and the interior tin work, with someone standing next to it. This car in this above picture shows the rocker panels ending about 2-1/2" below the drivers door just like on EVERY picture that has been posted of the original Dick Harrell funny car. Your rocker panels wrap under your car and a full Camaro rocker panel like USA1 posted. To say that yours are different because of the added fiberglass and aluminum, that is an incorrect statement. Those rockers that are on your car are were made in the mold of the car and were have not been added after the fact. The picture that USA1 posted showing the passenger side rocker proves that, inside and out.

The pictures I have seen that USA1 posted of your windows and trim, you have never done any kind of major repair work around them. Those are in MINT shape, especially on the inside, and are from the original mold. Also there has never been any windows glassed in from the back side like the original car from the pictures shown. There may have been some areas slightly repaired but I cannot see them in any of his pictures shown. If there are some areas repaired on your car then post some pictures showing the repair. There is nothing wrong with repair work done to these old cars as they were fiberglass. Also I have looked at Matt’s car and observed the windows as to how they were glassed in and I do not see any signs of them pulling apart of loosening up from the years of drag racing. Now if your body is only attached to the chassis at the rear, then you have a major problem with your car. Every funny car I have seen all have pivot points at the rear (except a few Palamedes bodies) and they have latches at the front to keep the body from flying up during a run. One thing, I have never seen a chassis take off and the body stay still. That must a cartoon type of some sort, like the horse taking off so quick the rider and saddle stay still…………………….

As for the rear spoiler being added to you car, you are right, all Camaro funny cars had the spoiler added to the rear after the car was pulled from the mold. Now I have over 20+ years with mold making and design and for someone to make a mold from a car with the spoiler already molded on it would be very difficult and expensive. To keep from "locking" the plug in the mold (for novices that is the part that the mold is being pulled from is called a “plug”) you would have to have a four piece (or more) mold in the rear of the car alone. This is not cost effective as without the spoiler the mold for the entire body could be made with a 4 piece or less mold. Even the 1969 Dick Harrell funny car has the rear spoiler added to it and then "molded" or slicked in.

I have always played the middle ground between your site and others, sometimes being on your side and sometimes on theirs. You are trying to make a good case that there were two 68 funny cars used by Dick and you are right: his car plus the Jim Kirby car, but he only owned one 68 Camaro funny car. There are too many people that can back this statement up and they are not the ones involved in this argument. You need to be the leader of this site and step up and show everyone pictures of your car as you found it(no matter what kind of shape it was in nor how much repair work has been done)and some during the restoration showing why you think you have a Dick Harrell car. Also I noticed that Valerie had posted pictures of her car on her website in the “as found” condition and it looks kind of rough. I feel if you do the same it can help end the arguments on both sides and get everyone back to talking about other things, like Christmas presents, check out one of mine!!!! Thanks to Santa for that one................RatPack...............

[DarrenX33]

Good thing you read all those old magazines Ed.

[Steve Shauger]

Tom& Ed thanks for laying your case out for all to see. I am sure there will be more questions, but you do make a strong two car argument. And as I stated previously, funnycars by their nature change dramatically from one season to the next...let alone 36 year of pure abuse.

[Belair62]

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You need to be the leader of this site and step up and show everyone pictures of your car as you found it(no matter what kind of shape it was in nor how much repair work has been done)and some during the restoration showing why you think you have a Dick Harrell car.

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This is a pretty weird statement...he IS the leader of this CLUB but for my 2 cents he really doesn't have to keep you happy...you have thrown around a lot of BS here Ratpack....coyly saying it may be a historical southern car...making references to people who know there were only 1 car but not naming anyone and since when did you become a funny car expert ?.....lets be realistic here..it's a funny car that was a POS and has probably been to 14 different hands and messed with each time...measuring magazine pics is pretty stupid. Just what is your whole interest in this anyway...tell me its just your historical interest right ? Lets face it..you , Val, Pulde or Timmy wouldn't know what the real Harrell car looked like if it walked up and bit them in the ass...most people wouldn't, myself included. All you can go by is what you can dig up and what people "who were there" tell you..Look at what happened when Pudle made the call on the Kirby car...he said it will never be a real Harrell car back then...they all peed on themselves and fawned over Toms car... now all of a sudden a message from the spirits or something and the [censored] hits the fan. Looks pretty obvious doesn't it ? If it were my car I would have the sandpaper out already whether it was Dicks car or not. All this really does is give people a chance to spank their little chubby because they think they finally are creating havoc with their arch enemy Tom ...hey maybe they want to steal the Gibb name and license the Harrell name and stop all the evil websites from using those name without paying . This is a joke...these are cars and personal vendettas are for kids...but I guess if YOU have a "leader" that has absolutely nothing else to do but worry about how he can destroy the SYC it will go on forever...why don't people just tell him to screw off ? Tom...you guys can delete this...or fire me or whatever...this is just too much of a laugh for me...these are some strange birds and for me to try and be objective and try to pretend this is all about the funny car would be an insult to my intelligence....

[LVCamaro]

[Rick H]

Breath Bob, breath, in and out, in and out, that's it.

Rick H.

[Belair62]

Thats why I like 409's