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History vs no history: Here's one more. Another 69 Kar Kraft built Mustang. This one is their development "mule". Raced a short time here in the USA in SCCA A/sedan, no T/A. Ships to England in late 1969 and has a very successful career in Group II against the vinyl topped ex-Penske Camaro I mentioned earlier. Comes back to the USA and is restored. Issued a Historic Trans Am "medallion" (#016) and just went through the RM auction in Novi Michigan. Didn't meet reserve. A significant FoMoCo history car due to it's KK connection. It's welcome in SVRA due to it's proven pre-1973 road race history. Is it eligible for Historic Trans Am? Do they honor the T/A medallion? These are the $135,000 questions.
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I think there is a slight bit of confusion here. First I am totally sympethetic to ANYONE whose car was not raced before 1973 (I got lucky), also there were cars with NO history "grandfathered" into the SVRA when they needed cars to fill the fields. And having the SVRA group 6 medallion does not get you into a Historic T/A event, you must have a car that actually raced in an early T/A event and most importantly you can and will have FUN in vintage racing with a no history car. ...redvetracr
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I got lucky and also was able to get a "pre-72" car so am able to run with what are called the Historic Trans-Am cars. HMSA is the group that runs at the Monterey Historics and you would definitely need a car with Trans-Am history to run at that event. Some exceptions have been made, such as for some Shelby team test cars. Several years back there were also some exceptions made just to help fill the grids but enough cars have been found now that some of these guys who were able to race at Monterey in the past are no longer able to do so. CSRG is a West Coast group that has a little more lax regulations which allow you to run a car without "pre-72" history. The brass tags on the roll bars were not started until '71 or '72 so if a car stopped racing prior to that time frame, it would not have a brass tag on the roll bar. My car stopped racing before that time. I was fortunate enough to trace it back to the original owner and he still had the dealer invoice for the car with the VIN on it. That plus several other things helped to get it registered with the Historic T/A group. There are more of these cars out there. A lot of it is dumb luck when you find a car but you also need to educate yourself so you know what you are looking for.
-Jon 1967 Z28 street car 1967 Z28 Trans-Am race car 1967 Z28 Registry |
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Thanks Motown. Actually, I probably would be outa my league to want to run with the big boys and would rather do the hometown scene. I'm sure they would rather have me here too. Their cars are worth way to much to be hurt by a homemade car. 20 years ago in Utah the SCCA was alive and well, I think mostly MG and Triumph guys running cones in parking lots. They even advertised in the paper. I couldn't tell you if they are here today. Hope so. Thanks again. Brent
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Unless your initials are RW or VE there will ALWAYS be "something" on the track more valuable than whatever you (or I for that matter) bring!! Now lets see how smart we all are!! Whose initials are they?? need a hint?? the first one does not (at least not yet) drive a "pony car" and the second guy does!! ...redvetracr |
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Vic E has the old Smokey Yunick Camaro which I believe was raced by Don Yenko in 6 TransAm races in 1969. This car is pictured in the Feb. 2002 MCR magazine in the story about Don Y. It is difficult to find info on the cars that didn't run at the front of the pack. I believe Don's best finish was 7th in a TA race but he did win the Citrus 250 at Daytona in that car and there were a lot of big guns in that race.
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