Would this car be considerd a COPO

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

As far as I know, the paint code is always listed 2x - once for top, once again for the bottom. So, the use of two dashes is nothing significant.

[Pacecarjeff]

The paint code on the festival Pace cars is 0-1. (special white, w/white top)
The dash is at the end of the 5th option group.
5BY-

It was long believed this was a special added blue stripe.
I don't think so. No reason for 2 paint remarks on the tag.

[PeteLeathersac]

So what motor is in the car....the original or not? . And if the original, what suffix is it? . Weren't you asking above if this was maybe a 427 conversion....and what Tach is in the car? ~ Pete

[Steve Shauger]

Jeff, which dash are you refering to??? The one in the 5 group or some other location on the tag. Non festival cars only had two unique code on the tag, the fleet code (for ordering) and the dash in the 5 group, which we speculate may means blue nose stripe.

Non festival cars used the standard paint code designation of C-1, which designated white paint and white conv top( BTW the dash in the paint designation is on every 67 built. Nothing special, no reason to theorize ).

We also know all (festival and non festival)pace cars had a dash in the 5 group, and also had blue nose stripe.
We also know that if you ordered cars equipped identical (interior and exterior) to pace cars without the 5 group dash you received a black nose stripe. A good example was Brad McAdams L78 convertible that was thought to be a pace cars for years because it had a blue nose stripe without the 5group dash. Well when it was being restored, under the blue nose stripe they found the original black stripe(later found the originating dealer painted it to make it identical to a pace car for the customer). To my knowledge (as well as others including the ICC pace car registry)there has never been an example of a white 67 camaro with a blue nose stripe, except those with the 5group dash and of course on a pace car.

Regarding 67 Yenkos, NONE came from the factory with 427/big engines period. As far as the dash code on 67 Yenkos theory, never seen one with, it doubt it signified anything other than paint instructions.

If you are going to throw up these theories, it would be nice to know who is behind them, including facts and support documentation.

Regarding the possibility of your car having a 427 highly unlikely, and if it did it would have been a low horse. Remember no solid lifter was teamed with an auto until 1968 and that was through the COPO process for the 50 Gibb Novas cars.

[SamLBInj]

that dash at the bottom wouldnt mean for the car to get the pace car stickers would it?

[Kurt S]

I was gone for a bit. To try to answer some of the questions:

On the 67 IPC documentation that I know of, nothing indicates that the IPC's were ordered as COPO's. The 'fleet code' does appear on the paperwork, which shows the cars were ordered thru the Central Office / Fleet & Special Order office as some type of special order. But no COPO number or other COPO indicator appears in the documentation.

There were actually 12 L35 Canadian IPC's. And at least three (including Jeff's) of those cars do not have a fleet code on the tag.

80055 is basically the dealer code for the Oshawa zone office. It does appear on other non-IPC cars. I'm not sure what GM of Canada says 80055 means now, but I recall seeing the definition vary.

All cars were built on the assembly line. There was no alternative off-line assembly process nor the room to do such.

I'm not a 67 Yenko expert, but none came from the factory as a 427. 69 was the first year for that.

I agree with Jeff, the 5 group dash probably just means 'special order - see instructions'. Normally seems to refer to paint. Has to be Fisher Body related since Chevy never looked at the tag.

Hope this helps...

[70 copo]

Kurt,

Chevy had to look at the trim tag at the Body bank...

Here is how I understand the activities in the body bank outside of the Fisher door at Chevy:

When A body entered from Fisher to chevy, A worker entered the fisher body number from the cowl tag into the Chevy final assembly computer. This data corresponded to the order number and as specified by the dealer order form. The Chevy final assembly process computer then specified the "parts pick" of the components needed to build the car as ordered. This info also resulted in the printing of the Broadcast Copy essential for body lock and assignment of the VIN number.

Right??

Phil

[Steve Shauger]

John Z. wrote a great article on the camaro/norwood assembly process which is located on the CRG website.

[Canucklehead]

Ok is it just me or how come no one has ask the obvious "real" question here?...............Just what does PeteLeathersac stand for?..some moniker his wife gave him????? , things to make you go HMMMMMMMM

[Belair62]