1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint - Page 8

70 copo · #71 08-02-2015, 09:20 PM

I do not see Cortez in the photo what I see is subject to lighting, fade and shadow.

IR paint scanner would have been helpful here

**Charley Lillard** · #72 08-02-2015, 11:39 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KENNY PASCOE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I looked at all the pics during the restoration and original paint / overspray was evident in many places . KP </div></div>

Did you see Cortez Silver or Evening Orchid ?

novadude · #73 08-03-2015, 01:08 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRC99</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like that. 67 Chevelle hood vents if I'm not mistaken (raised section too of course). </div></div>

Yes. We had a real '67 SS hood hanging on the wall with MAJOR rot on the front edge. Got to comparing it to the nova hood and realized size and proportions were the same. We took the whole center from the Chevelle hood, cut the center out of the Nova hood, and used the MIG to combine the two. Funny thing is that many people at car cruises that didn't know Novas just assumed it came that way.

**bkhpah** · #74 08-03-2015, 01:10 AM

For what its worth, a picture of the door panel being pulled back to show what would appear to be an unmolested weather barrier with the factory tape and sealers still in place, along with the unpainted brown door panel clip inserts. I personally know Clem and the Grabiak family. Why would they not know what they ordered in the fall of 1968?..BKH

**William** · #75 08-03-2015, 01:34 AM

We also peeled the door panel as shown in the photo. Mostly primer with a thin coat of paint; dust and dirt visible in the photo. Look at the finish near the clip retainer.

What we saw is represented by the first two of the four photos-silver. At the time, we concluded the car was Cortez Silver stripe delete. All we knew going into this was that it had - B paint. We did not know of the EO claim and had not seen the 1970 photo of it. The original owner was not involved at that time. Based on what we saw, EO was ridiculous and remains so. Not for an instant did I believe that car had ever been EO.

Later on when photos of the car dismantled were posted it was apparent the OE color had a lavender tint. A few people capable of intelligent debate posed another theory: The car may have been '69 GM color code #81. Olds called it Flamingo Silver; Buick Sunset Silver. Since then I have seen a '69 Olds in that color. If you're standing next to the car it looks silver. From a distance, definitely not silver. But nowhere near as dark as EO.

Cortez Silver? #81 Silver? Certainly one of the two. All I know is what it wasn't.

**Charley Lillard** · #76 08-03-2015, 01:44 AM

So the two of you did the same thing to that door panel and you didn't see the purple color ? Isn't it possible that maybe you just didn't take notice because you weren't looking for it ?

**William** · #77 08-03-2015, 02:03 AM

As I stated the paint under the door panel is mostly primer with a light top coat. We also looked at several other areas on the car. How about concentrating on the photos I posted? Particularly the cowl side pod photo taken by the owner.

We spent two hours examining the car inside a building and outside in natural light. Two hours.

watk69 · #78 08-03-2015, 02:37 AM

The is the primer on some hidden areas on the famous survivor that has been discussed for quite some time

Hugger Survivor

**Charley Lillard** · #79 08-03-2015, 03:54 AM

So you guys spent two hours and never saw any of the purple that people are posting pics of ? Did you see the area in the above pic ? Did you get a pic ?

**iluv69s** · #80 08-03-2015, 10:57 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We also peeled the door panel as shown in the photo. Mostly primer with a thin coat of paint; dust and dirt visible in the photo. Look at the finish near the clip retainer.

What we saw is represented by the first two of the four photos-silver. At the time, we concluded the car was Cortez Silver stripe delete. All we knew going into this was that it had - B paint. We did not know of the EO claim and had not seen the 1970 photo of it. The original owner was not involved at that time. Based on what we saw, EO was ridiculous and remains so. Not for an instant did I believe that car had ever been EO.

Later on when photos of the car dismantled were posted it was apparent the OE color had a lavender tint. A few people capable of intelligent debate posed another theory: The car may have been '69 GM color code #81. Olds called it Flamingo Silver; Buick Sunset Silver. Since then I have seen a '69 Olds in that color. If you're standing next to the car it looks silver. From a distance, definitely not silver. But nowhere near as dark as EO.

Cortez Silver? #81 Silver? Certainly one of the two. All I know is what it wasn't.

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a few observations.....unless I am seeing it wrong, it looks like they painted the bottom of the original weatherstrip when they painted the car without taping it at all...which happens on a cheaper paint job.So assuming that is primer on the inside of the door, why would there be no primer on the clip retainers??? with all due respect William, I think I could have believed it was cortez silver if I had no clue of the possible EO connection...it seems the original owner and also atleast one witness knew the car being EO back in the day..... jmho

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