69 Nova Big Blocks - Page 8

sYc · #71 12-03-2002, 12:18 AM

"Mr. Clary, If The owner of the car in question himself has said that it is not a real Yenko S/C then why do you still insist that it is?"

Following Brian's post, I do not remember me stating that it was a Yenko/SC, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

As per what is a "supercar" how can I make this clear. In this hobby, supercar is a subjective word, meaning different things to different people. I think that is very clear by now. I simply used the word for the reunion I host, to help define what cars I hoped would attend. The supercar reunion is not the only show to use the word supercar, Vettefest, York, to name a few, have "Supercar displays". Their criteria for allowing cars into this reserved area is different then mine. I understand and respect this. Each of us are dealing with different agendas, budget, space (or lack of it), etc. I hope to attend both of these shows some time in the near future, if I have a car that qualifies. If, not, that is fine. It is their show and they make the rules. Because I know how much time, money and effort that goes into putting one of these events on, the last thing I would do would be to criticize them in public. Sort of like what is happening here. If this bickering continues, and people begin taking sides, to the point of boycotting this board and/or reunion (because of me), which in turn causes me to discontinue them. Who loses? All of us, as that would mean one less avenue to showcase/promote our cars. And, if we do not show/promote them, our beloved supercars will go the way of the Model T. Tom

**sixtiesmuscle** · #72 12-03-2002, 12:25 AM

"MOF", where did I say we shouldn't take Warrens word??? He is the one I am quoting. I don't know where this elaborate story you are telling came from, but, it sure makes for an interesting puzzle. Now, I know you think that somehow this "word of a mechanic" has some relevance to the Nickey documentation, but, frankley you don't know what you're talking about. Since I don't know you, and, you certainly know nothing about MY cars, I'd be curious to know who put you up to this.

As I said to Brian at Vettefest about the Douglass controversy, maybe we just need to agree to disagree, and respect each other's positions.Oddly enough, Brian agrees that his car should not be considered a 427 Yenko/SC as stated in his post. From the beginning, I will repeat it one more time, MY only objection was to the declaration by the sYc that the subject Nova was an official 427 Yenko Nova. If I could disclose the number [and names] of the members of this club that have emailed about how ridiculous this whole subject is, you might be shocked. Unfortunately, I somehow have been elected to carry the torch for the opposition.
Frank, what can I say, it is odd that the Yenko purists have chosen to go against their previously expressed opinions regarding what should constitute an official Yenko/SC.

Obviously, it comes down to whose ox is being gored.

Tom, thank you. I will not boycott, and, I will come to the reunion. I promise not to get into any fights.

BTW, I respect everyone's opinion, and, I declare myself out of this thread. For anyone whose been waiting to really slam me, now is the time because I won't respond.

**bkhpah** · #73 12-03-2002, 12:58 AM

Given the hostile direction the post about my car was going, I felt I best take a breath and walk away from saying something I would regret later. I at least think I have done nothing but help this hobby. I have been there from the start. Tom and I talked at lenght about this before most of you ever even knew Tom. We have never missed a reunion and have brought out real and interesting new cars both personal, family owned and customers owned. We have shared volumes of information at every one. The whole memorabilia area was started by Super Car Workshop and has grown into an invaluable asset to the show. We have never ever charged a fee for a Yenko VIN number. We helped start the Supercar Registry area at the new York US 30 show. By all accounts it was a great success. So if you feel that I have a reputation that is less than above board, thats fine by me Tim. As for the Nova it is a car that has an interesting history that is special for it. Tom never compared it to a classic Yenko/SC Nova. It is a Yenko Nova SS with a 427 L/88 done by none other than Warren himself. Tom feels that the car is special because of the people involved in the build up. I think he would feel the same for any other car with this distinction. I do consider Tom a close friend, but not so close he would lie about a car to please me. He never tried to put a price on the car. What it is worth is different to everyone. This would seem to be the bottom line so to speak on the whole topic. Mike you priced out the car in your post. I have been asked to sell the car many times since I bought it. I never priced the car. I happen to like it, it is a tough car. Yenko Nova SS cars are few and far between. All seem to have an interesting past. So does this car. What else needs to be said?...BKH

**hvychev** · #74 12-03-2002, 01:38 AM

Brian

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Tom never compared it to a classic YenkoS/C Nova

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Tom
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Ron;Now to your question. Because of where it was sold(Yenko) and who built/installed the 427(Yenko mechanic), the sYc classifies Brian's car as a 427 Yenko Nova. pg.2 pst#1

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Mr Clary I aplogize. Your comment was before Brians post not after. But what is the difference it was stated? I am not trying to start trouble. I TRULY respect you and what you have done for the hobby. Like you said the time, organization and money that you spend in organizing a show like The Supercar Reunion is unimaginable. It is for the better of the hobby to get people together and learn more about these amazing cars. I know I have for sure! I just like other board members want to understand this situation better.

Mr Clary I still want to know how you consider a car with a situation like Brians an official sYc Nova and not the Douglas Cars?

Jeff H · #75 12-03-2002, 03:45 AM

Tom, I'm not trying to take anything away from what you have created with the "SupeCar Reunion" but I think the water has gotten cloudy in what should be considered a true supercar. Maybe something that would be useful to you and everyone that visits this site is to set up a thread with a poll to let registered users vote for their definition of a supercar. Like mentioned above and in the Douglass/Yenko thread, we'll all continue to disagree to some extent. I hope nobody takes these as personal attacks, but these discussions can only lead to a better awareness of what was really going on back in the 60's and early 70's. The more information we share the more we all learn.

Chevy454 · #76 12-03-2002, 04:09 PM

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It has to be done or set up prior to delivery when the car was sold new. I still want to know how you consider a car with a situation like Brians an official sYc Nova

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A couple of quick questions for ya, Frank. What do you consider Charley's '80 Motion Camaro? What is Richardson's tri-powered 396 Yenko Nova considered? What is "an official sYc Nova"?

**hvychev** · #77 12-03-2002, 05:02 PM

Rob, You forgot to include the last part of my question in my quote. "..and not the Douglas cars."

Rob also I stated that in no way I wanted to down anybodys car or have people think that I am doing so, but now you are asking me to give my opinions about other members cars. As far as Charlies car it is considered TO ME as an awesome day 2 example of a supercar by a noted tuner of the day which makes it very special. I think that this may have been discussed in a prior thread about the differences between a Baldwin Motion delar/tuner combo car, and a Motion Performance car. As far as Richardsons tri powered 396 sYc Nova, TO ME if it was either done before new car delivery or at least set up to have been done after the fact prior to new car delivery then it should be considered an official sYc Nova.

I would still love to have my Douglas question answered.

**Stefano** · #78 12-03-2002, 06:30 PM

The sqaure peg doesn't always fit into the round hole!

Charley's '80 Motion Camaro, and other late model Pedigreed, Tunner, Super Cars are unique. His is first and foremost a full phase III conversion (and there was "no" other prudent way to legally obtain such a Super Car, other than to have it Converted afterwards).

Hmmm, the neat car thing is stating to make some sense.

Frank,
On another note;We stopped by you and your Dad's display and the cars are looking fine (Even have a few digital pics for you). Why were you hiding by the Corvette Guys?

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #79 12-03-2002, 08:19 PM

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Man, I skipped the board for a few days of deer hunting, and missed all the fun!
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**hvychev** · #80 12-03-2002, 09:40 PM

Marlin, I was wondering where you were at! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Stefano, Thank you. I would love to see the digital pics you took of my cars. My digital pics did not turn out that good. Mabye you could e-mail them to me. I was looking for you and could not find you. I went be Tim L and he said that I just missed you. Great show. My last year with the Corvette guys. I love these super car guys now! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

I think that I am on the pay no mind list after my last post.

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