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Old 03-19-2020, 11:40 AM
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Part #2 Cultural.

Italy is an absolute hot spot for Chinese investment. So much so that the mayor of Florence Italy sponsored a "Hug a Tourist" event just before the outbreak went into overdrive there.

Europe is open borders and very Anti Xenophobic too.

Do you think culturally North America would be ok doing this at all with a pandemic looming?

Here is a non partisan video of the attitude that made Italy ground Zero for the pandemic.

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The real impact of the illness is fear, and economic destruction fueled by Panic and hysteria.

The world is not ending.

We will get through this together.

Give the TV a break.
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Old 03-19-2020, 01:15 PM
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I'd say we've had enough of the screen shots of the different TV outlets. No one has a crystal ball.


This pandemic has had devastating affects, however from a personal standpoint it does allow us/me to reflect, and perhaps open a dialog with our families and friends.


My daughter and son in-law are full time teachers with 3 young children, and their daily lives are quite chaotic . Now they are spending 24 x7 together as a family. This has opened opportunities to teach their children to be self sufficiency, team work and presents real teaching moments.


I think if we can, help those that are most affected financially by the crisis in any way. My wife and I have done so and it's very rewarding.




I guess what I'm saying is find ways to be as helpful and productive in these times. I always liked JFK's Inaugural address phrase; Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
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Old 03-19-2020, 01:31 PM
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Come on guys - arguing over the outcome of this thing is getting ridiculous.

More importantly - have any of our members (or anyone that they know) been infected? 🙏
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Old 03-19-2020, 01:37 PM
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No one I know has been infected. Of course, we only have 49 confirmed cases in OK, with a population just a tick under 4 million. The optimist in me really wants to believe Phil is right on the money with the 60 day prediction. But, that's all it is; a prediction.

Some of the measures here in OK seem a bit drastic to me. But, I am not a health care professional.
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I'm the Medical Emergency Manager at Landstuhl Army Medical Center. We have one staff member that popped hot and another tested due to close contact with a service member that popped hot, awaiting results. It's stressful on the staff, especially those with kids, single parents.

I'm going to paste a portion a post I received from another EM pro, retired AF now working FEMA. If you want the entire post I could PM it to you. I thought it was spot on...but this little piece is as well:
Your emergency managers, your public health agencies, your hospitals, and National Guard units and Red Cross are all working incredibly hard, working their ASSES off, to get this right. Will there be mistakes? Oh yes. There will be, were all human, remember? And this is new. But trust me when I say it is as important to them to get it right as it is to you. So, please, cut them some slack. Work WITH each other to take care of each other. If there is only ONE pack of toilet paper left, well darn it just give the other desperate person half the rolls. Don’t lick airplane toilet seats! That’s just nasty! If you work at a restaurant with a drive thru, feed the truck drivers! Don’t be afraid of them! Let them walk up to the speaker, place their order, and then reach around the door to hand them their food if you’re that afraid. But don’t tell them too bad. They need to eat. They need toilets and showers and rest stops so they can deliver YOUR FOOD, YOUR BABY SUPPLIES, YOUR TOILET PAPER, YOUR HAND SANITIZER, YOUR CLOROX WIPES. If you’re asked to self-quarantine, do it! Care about your fellow humans! If your kid’s school shut down, well, I’m sorry. First world problems. Get the kids together (only 10!) and rotate houses, taking turns teaching, playing, learning, feeding them. Missing important milestones like prom? Re-schedule it. Or better yet, have a bunch of mini proms at the kids’ homes. FaceTime proms. Improvise. Military people have been doing it for years. You can too. We need our communities to work together to respond and fight this pandemic. Not leave it up to a handful of people you don’t even trust anyway. STOP perpetuating lies and misinformation. Stop listening to the news, and study up on the scientific sites. Come on people. Sorry, I didn’t mean to make this a long rant. It’s just ridiculous and out of control.
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China reported no new cases as of today Starbucks opened up all their stores as have all the Apple stores.
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Hello,

Update from the food industry:

All major CPG's (Consumer Product Group) are reviewing their portfolio's and will be suspending production on some items to focus on core items.

Fresh chicken is up 100-300% - Foster Farms is at capacity
Packaged meat - up 50 - 200%

Center store is up 50 to 200%

Key categories will be allocation for some time.

Be patient with the store clerks.. they are doing their best. DC's are at capacity for appts. Loads are being prioritized based upon needs. Try to buy what you need.. ask your elderly neighbor if they need anything.

Lastly, put your cart back!

Stay safe,

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Old 03-19-2020, 02:56 PM
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Lastly, put your cart back!
starting to see lots of used latex gloves on the ground in the parking lots discarded by shoppers. these will end up in drainage systems and likely cause problems.
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I saw a video from the cdc, looks like people with type O blood do better with the virus. Type A is way worse.
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