Was there ever a better ALL AROUND car

[EZ Nova]

Strange, I have driven, raced and just drove around in various Chevelle's over the years (Beaumonts too) and they never seemed to ride as nice as the B-bodys?? Chevelle has been known for years with there "taxi-cab" dash/interiors, even though the '69 were not too bad.

Some Buicks we nice (my aunt actually bought a '70 GS 455 Stage 1 on her brothers recommendation. I can still remember being in the back seat when my dad drove our snowmobile off the trailer and into the truck of her can the FIRST winter she had it.) Still these others didn't seem to have the room when comparing the intermediates. Now yes, my uncle 1967 GTO did have the room, but the 400 seemed to not be as much of a runner as the 440's.

Don't get me wrong, there were a lot of nice and roomy cars back then. Just looking now for a nice reliable driver that has room, creature comforts and good performance, the 440 powered B-body just seem the have the most all around combined. They were BIG, trunk was BIG, had the 440's and just had some nice finishes. Others may agree or disagree, that's fine by me. BUT you must admit, there wasn't an easier car to turn the steering wheel then the power mopar of the '68's??? Probably TOO EASY.

[Arrowsmith]

Hey! I have a Great Idea! Why don’t you sell those crappy Chevys in your signature and buy a GTX? Then you could live happily ever after.....

[EZ Nova]

Don't need to sell. Just starting to look for one already. Prefer convertible.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by EZ Nova

Now yes, my uncle 1967 GTO did have the room, but the 400 seemed to not be as much of a runner as the 440's.

There were 4 versions of the 400cid in 67 GTO's
Your uncle may have had the economy 2bbl version with an automatic ?

An HO or RamAir engine in a 67 would have turned you into a GTO owner.
The base 335hp version was okay for basic transportation.

[EZ Nova]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

There were 4 versions of the 400cid in 67 GTO's
Your uncle may have had the economy 2bbl version with an automatic ?

An HO or RamAir engine in a 67 would have turned you into a GTO owner.
The base 335hp version was okay for basic transportation.

My uncles '67 GTO was a auto with dualgate. He was sorta into cars but not up on all the particulars. He told me when he bought it that it was a RAM AIR car and DID seal to the hood. Needed premium gas to run at all (around here that is 93 octane pump). With the auto, it wasn't a fast as his friends 1963 409 4bbl Impala. Being hyd lifter and heads on the Impala, the GTO just couldn't run with my uncles GTO.

Before I bought my car, when I was 15 a friend in town had a really nice '66 GTO with the Tri-power. That to didn't really impress me as much as my brothers 1975 Trans Am with a 1974 455 in it.

I do NOT have much experiences with Pontiacs myself. A few guys have them around me. I figured FOR SURE the best run back in the day for my 440 Mopar was a local 1971 T-37 (GT-37) factory 455HO 4sp car with cam, headers, carb and 4.10 gear. Been on this site a few times about that car. And it's still around local to me to this day. I know about that car then the current owner did. Anyway back in the mid '80's that T37 sounded KILLER. Had pretty much the same setup as my GTX clone. He would race everyone else BUT ME. Just kept saying he had no chance. My car had headers, CH4B intake, Holley 780 vac carb and a weird came. Stock lift but about 6 degrees more duration. Sorta pissed me off as it didn't rumble like the others around town.

I recently got ride of a FAST 1961 Pontiac Bubbletop. Car had a 409/425 motor that was worked, 4sp and 3.36 gear. That car certainly would have outran 99% of the cars around, and room and actually not badly finished off inside. Problem was that you just can't find parts for them. And the tipical X frame twist when running hard.

[EZ Nova]

I'm not knocking ANY CARS. They all fit a bill. I like some of the Pontiac stuff and actually went looking for a 1971 T37 455HO car. Couldn't find one, and still need to check the boxes when one does show up. And a L78 Chevelle would run hard, have some good room, just needs more attention and possible fuel issues as I have found out with my '67 Nova with the 427.

I'm just shopping right now as with the lockdown, you can't really go look at anything or even get over to the USA to get it. I'm hoping to have SOMETHING buy fall of 2021!!!!

I DO really appreciate everyone's input. At this time, I just DO NOT have the funds to go, visit my buddy, and buy his Hemi Challenger Convertible clone. Doubt he would sell anyway. That is the car that really gets me thinking. EFI 426 Hemi, gear-vendors overdrive car that looks and sounds stock, runs 10.70's and can still in Toronto heat and traffic for hours.

[Verne_Frantz]

Originally Posted by Steve Shauger

I can't compare because I haven't owned and B body Mopars. The E body Mopars, I can they have wow factor and I liked looking at my AAR, but much prefer driving a Z28. I agree that build quality was lacking on Mopar products. They had damn great drivetrains!

Steve,
I didn't notice any build quality problems with the '69 Road Runner I had for a long time. My only complaints were the starter that sounded like a hyena laughing and a lack of road feel in the steering.


Verne

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

All the 67 RamAir cars came with 4.33 gears standard.
No way that thing wouldn't have tore your head off.

RamAir pans were also available over-the-counter items.
67 H/O cars are fast runners, i have one.

But, some peoples cars just won't do the boogy when its time to dance.

[x33rs]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

But, some peoples cars just won't do the boogy when its time to dance.

Boy I don't think I've heard a statement more true. More often than not, they look better than they run. A lot of people talk, but they never show up at the track.

I like my stuff to run as good or better than they look.

[EZ Nova]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

But, some peoples cars just won't do the boogy when its time to dance.

So very true.

Ya NO WAY uncles car had 4.33. He said it was a factory 360Hp car but the gears were changed to 3.55 years ago for driveability. Wasn't a bad car by any means. Purple-ish with black roof and interior. I have always liked the '65 GTO's. Thought of one of them with a 455HO would be nice too.