Documented 1969 L78 chevelle

[chevyman0429]

https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/...989531775.html

[wheelhop]

great color combo!

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Playing Devils Advocates here:

Is Reading that’ it’s DOCUMENTED and seeing the Certificate photo enough for you to buy such a car?

Just asking, as we all know many will see that and buy buy buy. Maybe not folks here on sYc but the naive buyer.

[69LM1]

IF I were a player, Id probably give Jerry a call to discuss.

/R

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Does Jerry give free consultations on cars he’s verified?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by MYSTERYCHEVELLE

Does Jerry give free consultations on cars he’s verified?

Has Jerry ever documented a car and then it has been verified it was not what it was?

[69LM1]

Originally Posted by MYSTERYCHEVELLE

Does Jerry give free consultations on cars he’s verified?

I don't know about consultations, but I believe that he will take a min and go though some of the details of the report. He has with me on several occasions and others that I know.

and..

Originally Posted by Sean

Has Jerry ever documented a car and then it has been verified it was not what it was?

Even the experts can be fooled sometimes, as well as people twisting reports (which is why the secondary report pages are almost more important than the certificate page in Jerry's reports, IMO).

One example, one time I had found and bought what looked from every angle to be a valid 1969 Chevelle COPO motor. Problem was, it had a Kansas city VIN, and at that time it was believed that there were no Kansas city COPO's made. I was told it was a very good fake by several people and multiple experts. Then RogerD's COPO surfaced along with build sheets and Roger being the Original Owner, proving that there were Kansas City COPO Chevelle's. Suddenly the engine went from a good fake, to real.

There have been other examples in the opposite direction, then of course there's the cars where two cars have the same VIN, one the convin and the other the actual vin. Which one is real? The hacked up race car "restored" or the "repaired" car with the original driveline? (real story was something around these lines, some details may be wrong).

Point being, IMO, if a car was certified by Jerry, I'd want all the pages of the report before purchase and then I'd email or buzz him with any questions. I think he would answer one way or another.

/R

[Sean]

Originally Posted by 69LM1

I don't know about consultations, but I believe that he will take a min and go though some of the details of the report. He has with me on several occasions and others that I know.

and..



Even the experts can be fooled sometimes, as well as people twisting reports (which is why the secondary report pages are almost more important than the certificate page in Jerry's reports, IMO).

One example, one time I had found and bought what looked from every angle to be a valid 1969 Chevelle COPO motor. Problem was, it had a Kansas city VIN, and at that time it was believed that there were no Kansas city COPO's made. I was told it was a very good fake by several people and multiple experts. Then RogerD's COPO surfaced along with build sheets and Roger being the Original Owner, proving that there were Kansas City COPO Chevelle's. Suddenly the engine went from a good fake, to real.

There have been other examples in the opposite direction, then of course there's the cars where two cars have the same VIN, one the convin and the other the actual vin. Which one is real? The hacked up race car "restored" or the "repaired" car with the original driveline? (real story was something around these lines, some details may be wrong).

Point being, IMO, if a car was certified by Jerry, I'd want all the pages of the report before purchase and then I'd email or buzz him with any questions. I think he would answer one way or another.

/R

Thanks for writing that makes a lot of sense. I was not questioning his abilities or integrity was just a general question I do not even know him. I had almost pulled the trigger on a motion car was excited but a few red flags. It was being sold from a well known "Guy" come to find out it was a fake thank god I did not!

[Igosplut]

Originally Posted by 69LM1

There have been other examples in the opposite direction, then of course there's the cars where two cars have the same VIN, one the convin and the other the actual vin. Which one is real? The hacked up race car "restored" or the "repaired" car with the original driveline?

I knew of a few of those, one that both owners were having a stare down over it. (the one with the original rough body had no idea, and just inherited the car).. Messy.