ZL 1 #36 - Page 4

Denis · #31 12-12-2006, 07:50 AM

Top shelf car, imo.

...but might have a leak or two -- viz callout from Stefano's pic below:

**copo69** · #32 12-12-2006, 07:51 AM

The lower control arm bolts to the subframe are installed with the nut to the front rather than toward the rear. Anyone ever see a car with these installed this way from the factory. The reason I ask is that's the way the assembly manual shows the bolts installed.

**bkhpah** · #33 12-12-2006, 03:17 PM

If you study the assembly manuel you will see the control arm bolts in the way you describe, but I have seen many unrestored never before removed bolts in both directions...BKH

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #34 12-12-2006, 07:27 PM

I have always felt one of the best parts of the VF judging system is that you are shown the judging sheets before they move on to the next car - and you sign them. This gives you the opportunity to discuss the deductions with the judges, and basically provides a lot of information as to what was found. This process can really help with learning curves - if factory correct is indeed the goal. If the goal is to restore the car to another set of standards, then discussing the deductions is a moot point.

**Mr70** · #35 12-12-2006, 07:44 PM

I like that too,but also think it's very considerate of the VF judges to not judge any vehicle unless the owner is standing their quietly next to their vehicle at that certain time.If you're not,they leave a note on your windshield saying they waited for you and will return at a later time.If you still aren't there then,you vehicle will not get judged..and with good reason in my book.
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Stuart Adams · #36 12-12-2006, 07:57 PM

My .02. I appreciate all the input and am always learning. Obviously the car has had a high dollar resto. It's a very rare car. If I was the owner I would want the car restored as close to factory as possible. Auction is coming up so we'll see what shakes out.

**copo69** · #37 12-12-2006, 11:03 PM

Thanks Brian for your answer. We installed mine like the ZL1's and assembly manual, but have been told by some it's not correct. I don't think I've seen an original with them installed this way though. Good to hear you've seen them both ways.

**sYc** · #38 12-14-2006, 12:17 AM

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....2. The judging sheets for this car are now being reviewed by my Judging supervisor, as there are several issues that may have been considered incorrect that may in fact be correct.

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Bob, has your review team had time to review the judging sheets on this car? If so, has a decision been made, and what was it?

mc25t190 · #39 12-14-2006, 11:18 AM

We can find something on every car. Each car is done to ones liking, a lot incorrect, a lot different, different shifts, people, Monday's & Friday's. It's overrestored, but God, it looked awesome. I don't think anyone that let that out of their shop would have had an unhappy customer. What would be acceptable today is far superior to 1969, but, it's 2006. Others done freshly at the show were just as appealing with different styles. Baskin and Robin's now makes Jerry Garcia ice cream!

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #40 12-14-2006, 04:42 PM

If you bring a car to a judged show, be prepared for the results if the car is not restored to that show's standards. The eye candy factor is irrelevant. The criteria is based on originality, not over-restoration. That car would do very well at Super Chevy, but would get crushed at Carlisle.

You are right, there are many flavors out there, you just have to match them up with the right show. How do you expect a team of judges to cater to all 'flavors'? No need to complain about the score if ya mismatched the car with the wrong judging criteria!