Window Stickers

[SS427]

Going back to your post Bill on your LS6, I have personally never found a buildsheet on the passenger side, only the drivers side though they can be found anywhere. I recently posted a photo of a sheet I found on the Mist Green LS6. Check that side if you have not already.

[Lynn]

I have great respect for Paul, for his knowledge and for his services (even though we couldn't nail down dealer 833 in Zone 23). Let's face it, Pauls efforts have probably led to a lot of information, and in some cases, the discovery of original paper.

We simply disagree on one thing: I believe EVERY reproduced WS should have a watermark indicatiing that it is a reproduction. I don't beleive for a minute Paul would furnish a WS to a guy who planned to use it to deceive. Still, there can be no denying that it could happen.

Even though most guys on this board would not use a reproduced WS do decieve (although a few of you would, I am sure... you know who you are!) the risk of deception in the future is too high. Pretty certain there are more fake WS out there than real ones.

While not exactly the same as the trim tag argument, there are many similarities. I don't see any downside to a watermark. If I were to order a WS for my car (I have no paperwork and cannot even determine with certainty who dealer 833 was) I would insist on a watermark. I am not going to be around forever, so I may not even be here to insist on "destroying" the repop WS next time the car changes hands.

[Verne_Frantz]

Good post Lynn. And as I said, the "aging" process crosses the ethical line. I'm surprised that some people think that is part of a "proper restoration".
Verne

[fsc66]

I think we have now come full circle with this discussion........
SO HOW ABOUT THIS BEAUTIFUL WEATHER WE ARE HAVING !!!!!!!!!!!!


Paul


I have some new data that shows zones, codes and districts along the the town the dealer was located in. Unfortunately it does not show the Dealer name. However, it may help us to pinpoint a dealer based on what we know about how dealer codes were assigned and also if there are very few dealers within the town.
I'll take a look for 23 833 and let you know.
I checked it's not on there either, sorry

Me

[mr 707]

you represent fake documents as real , you are putting yourself in legal jeopardy.

[Lynn]

Thanks Paul. Despite our difference of opinion on the watermark, I DO appreciate all you do for many folks in the hobby. Even something as simple as identifying the dealer MAY lead to other info that I would never discover.

It is appreciated.

[fsc66]

Mr: 707
I'll bite, lets go with this, you've made an accusation, so now substantiate it. You stated that I am representing documents that are fake as real, so please while everyone is listening, please provide proof to corroborate your statement?

Paul

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by fsc66

Mr: 707
I'll bite, lets go with this, you've made an accusation, so now substantiate it. You stated that I am representing documents that are fake as real, so please while everyone is listening, please provide proof to corroborate your statement?

Paul

We all know there is only one REAL WS - the one that came on the car when it left the factory

[Lynn]

Was hoping it wouldn't deteriorate into this.

Paul: I did not read this post as an indictment of YOU.

"you represent fake documents as real , you are putting yourself in legal jeopardy."

I read it to mean that the person who DOES misrepresent it as "real" is placing himself in legal jeapardy. I believe that is a true statement.

I have not seen any post by anyone on this site that says YOU are representing them as real. You state they are authentic looking. A repop manufacturer says he makes a repop bumber that is so good you can't tell it from a real one. If I take that repop, but a gm part sticker on it, and sell it as original GM, I am committing fraud, not the manufacturer.

[Steve Shauger]

I agree Lynn, this thread is starting to deteriorate.