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Old 07-11-2019, 03:47 PM
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80 1969 COPO 9561 L72 Camaro's were exported into Canada,according to VVS.
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Thanks , where did you find the VVS info?
I was also looking for number of COPO 427 Chevelles to Canada
and number of COPO 9737 for Camaro and Chevelle to Canada

as I was searching , I found this post on here


"Belmont sold 10 copo Camaros and 5 copo Chevelle.
Lance Hill from Belmont ordered all of them. "

more were ordered later

" Belmont was the highest volume new car dealer of any brand in Canada and delivered more COPOs than any other dealership. I know as I ordered and signed off on every one, along with Dave Mackay, confirmed by GM Canada. My daily driver for 3 months or so was Hugger Orange 638805, now in good hands in Southern Cal, with the odd side trip to Greece (really). Similar to almost all dealers, Belmont's sales files went into a landfill after a few years. I have Belmont butt end stickers for any current owner who need one.

Lance Hill "

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A friend received a VVS report on his US to Canada shipped COPO,from George Z.
It stated that # quote on the cover page.
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That would be new. That was not included before. Seems like it could be low - I know of 50 cars out of the 80?

Baldwin ordered several COPO's early in the year. In fact, they were one of the first non-Yenko dealers to order them. But I've never seen a later car. Baffling cause they were cheaper than an L78.

Hate to say, but I don't put a lot of stock into statements that some of the dealers make in later years. They were in the business of selling cars and had lots of other models and trucks and their statements have proven not to be very accurate. Not surprising - we are interested in a 6-8 month window on a specific model in (often) 30+ years of business.
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That would be new. That was not included before. Seems like it could be low - I know of 50 cars out of the 80?

Baldwin ordered several COPO's early in the year. In fact, they were one of the first non-Yenko dealers to order them. But I've never seen a later car. Baffling cause they were cheaper than an L78.

Hate to say, but I don't put a lot of stock into statements that some of the dealers make in later years. They were in the business of selling cars and had lots of other models and trucks and their statements have proven not to be very accurate. Not surprising - we are interested in a 6-8 month window on a specific model in (often) 30+ years of business.
The ones weve seen here is made at the end of February and March.
Is there earlier Baldwin COPOs?
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It would be interesting to know the numbers of COPO 9561, 9562, and 9737 exported to Canada.

VVS had the records on microfilm and microfiche which can be hard to data search.
I don't know if they ever had it converted to a modern data base that can be easily searched


Looking over some old notes on the COPO 9562 Chevelle L72

VVS records show

9612 Malibu sport coupes were sold in Canada
10828 were exported to U.S
201 imported to Canada

Some have said about 30 of the 201 were COPO 9562 Chevelle L72 but I don't think that has been confirmed by VVS.

I sent VVS an email on this

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A friend received a VVS report on his US to Canada shipped COPO,from George Z.
It stated that # quote on the cover page.
Get the page and scan it and post it. Then we will have something weird. Cuz NO COPO doc I have ever seen out of GM of Canada has ever had a COPO total number, only the model number for V8 Camaro or Malibu Hardtop. In fact the Chevelle docs usually say "NO RECORD OF COPO TOTAL SALES" (as below).

George says he has been driven batty by people asking this question this week (probably due to this site) and his answer is the same he has always given me - "WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH 6,067 V8 CAMAROS AND 201 CHEVELLES TO FIND 427 CARS"

He DOES NOT KNOW where the 80 and 30 numbers are from but he says THEY ARE NOT CONFIRMED BY VVS. The numbers remain an unconfirmed guess.
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here is his reply to me

" unfortunately we do not have option breakdowns on cars imported to Canada before 1972 so cannot assist with this request"


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here is his reply to me

" unfortunately we do not have option breakdowns on cars imported to Canada before 1972 so cannot assist with this request"


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Thatís weird. Iíve had 3 Canadian built 70 Chevelles and all of my VVS docs had an exact number of how many had ZL2, L34, LS5, etc.
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That’s weird. I’ve had 3 Canadian built 70 Chevelles and all of my VVS docs had an exact number of how many had ZL2, L34, LS5, etc.
CANADIAN "BUILT" so NOT imported-OSHAWA. That's a waaay different kettle of fish with much better record-keeping in Oshawa.
Oshawa-built GTO Judges actually have WT1 (Judge) and M20 or M21 stamped on the trim tag. Seen L34 on some Oshawa Chevelle trim tags too.

And the reason he mentions 1972 specifically is that it wasn't until '72 that you got a VIN letter on GM cars to designate the engine option.
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