1972 GS Stage 1 Buick

[CanadianPoncho]

The article was printed in the September 1987 issue of Muscle Car Review. The owner at the time was Ken Emmott of Houston TX. The article states the car had "around 10000 original miles". The article also states the car won "Best all around GS at the 1984 GS Nats so it seems to also have been at a Buick meet..The original selling dealer had the car until 1979. The car then went to Connecticut. The second owner apparently didn't register the car either. I remember drooling over that car when I first saw the article! I still have that same issue!

Todd

[CanadianPoncho]

If you want to get picky, I compared some photos from the sellers website with the original article photos. The air cleaner foams look to have been replaced. The ones in the magazine article have "squared off" corners at the rear of them. Everything else looks pretty much the same- there's a little more rust on the brake booster now.

Todd

[442w30]

Guess someone has saved me some trouble.

Still, here's more detail . . .

[442w30]

page 2 . . .

[Big Block Bill]

Thanks everyone for the issue information, I just purchased a copy off e-bay. It just floors me that the guy who owns the place it's at states: "And the car will go from the original selling Buick dealer to the next lucky owner!"

This was after I brought up the fact I was told it was in Muscle Car Review a while back, he stated in talking to the Buick dealer / current owner, it was never shown before, nor was it in any magazines.

You would think a car of this caliber should sell on it's own, with out the stories.

Bill Pankiw

[Big Block Bill]

This is the latest e-mail I got from Joseph Carrol owner of Best of Show Automotive when I questioned if it was in any magazines, ect.:

Bill,


It's not the same car. My friend, Kevin Joyce, ordered the car at Joyce Buick and owned it until last month. It's never been to a Buick show.


And I never said the car was on MSO. My ad clearly shows the original title which was issued in 1972.


Not sure why you are doubting my word, but the facts are the facts.


If this car had been at the GS Nationals in May, it would have won all kinds of stuff. If you are intent on owning this car that appeared in a magazine back in the 80's, I can't help you.

Joseph M. Carroll
President & C.E.O.
Best of Show Automotive, LLC
Home of the Mentor Museum of Speed
7700 Tyler Boulevard
Mentor, Ohio 44060


I quess Is it possible this is not the same car?


Bill Pankiw

[442w30]

Time to post on the Buick board. Here's a link:

http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.ph...68#post1481668

[Big Block Bill]

Diego,

Thanks for the link, I joined tonight and posted to a Chris, he said he was a previous owner. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I would really like this car to be a 1 owner, no stories car for sure, before I per sue it any further.

Bill Pankiw

[442w30]

Another PM sent!

[BUQUICK]

The car at Best of Show Automotive has got to be the same car that was featured in the 9-1987 issue of Muscle Car Review in my opinion.

I have attached nice clear scans of both pages. The car was also shown at the GS Nats in the early 90s and I have photos of it, but they are not here at my house, I'll get them next week when I visit my Dad and scan them in if there is any doubt.

Why do I think it's the same car? Well in 1972 there were 7,723 GS Buicks made (this includes includes GS 350, GS 455, and GS Stage 1). Of the 7,723 only 113 were painted Regal Black. Of those 113 Black Gran Sport hardtops only 59 were made with the black painted sport mirrors. Remember these 59 cars include GS 350, GS 455, and GS Stage 1.

The car in the magazine and the car in the internet ad are both optioned EXACTLY the same. With only 728 Stage 1 built in '72, plus the rarity of black (113), and the black mirrors (less than 59 Stage 1s with these), the chances of two cars both with black vinyl top, N25 bumper, 15" wheels, black bench seat interior, sport steering wheel, AM/FM radio (with an 8 track underdash), PS, rally gauges w/ tach, door edge guards, and very low miles, is too much to ignore!

Also, if you look closely at the engine shots, here is the thing that confirms it for me: in the magazine you can see a paint inspection mark at the 12 o'clock position on the top of the brake booster (can't see it however in my scans, but it is visible if you have the magazine in your hand). The same paint mark is visible in the internet ad.

Also, the "Stage 1" sticker placement is the same on both cars. Why is this a give away? Because the decal is normally about 1" closer to the wingnut so that the radius of the decal matches the radius of the air cleaner lid. Well both the car in the magazine and the internet car have it place all the way to the bottom. The is probably original, but just a very unusual placement. Too much of a coincidence for 2 identical optioned, very rare, low mileage cars to have this the same way.

Also since the car was in the magazine in 1987, it appears that someone has replaced the original upper radiator hose (which had a white stripe on it). Also the master cylinder has been replaced. You can tell 2 ways: 1) the plating on the lid is much newer looking than the booster 2) the original master cylinder on a disc brake '72 GS has bleeder screws (as shown in the 1987 MCR article).

Bottom line, got to be the same car. Not sure why the sellers would be so adamant about it not being the same car, but it has the same car.

Also a guy on the Buick bulletin board owned the car until recently. go here :http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=183530 and scroll down to post #5.