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Old 06-21-2018, 06:57 PM
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He built a 461 stroker with 474hp/550 torque off the original 400 engine in his 78 T/A.
Knowing Bob , it didn't seem kosher that he would have used the #'s engine from his low mile Gold Y88 4spd Survivor to do that build .

He didn't use it
He used a donor "garden variety" 400

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The original W72 engine is on a stand and tucked away. I pieced together a spare XX block that is stroked, 6X-4 heads with the full SD Performance port and polish job, and an original intake that was also heavily worked and cleaned up by SD.

The carb is a spare with rebuild kit by Cliff, and the distributor is an aftermarket HEI. It was dynoed at Kauffman

The numbers were peak HP of 474 at 5100 rpm and peak torque of 549 at 3600

I think Bob might have went a bit "soft" on the Cam.
HP and peak rpm could have been moved on up - if he had wanted to.
I'm sure he got what he was wanting to get though.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:09 PM
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These days some guys are getting some crazy power with modern roller cams in old Pontiacs. It is truly amazing.

Bob did have to do some parts chasing though - like the spacers for the valve covers to clear the roller rockers...and messing with the A/C brackets so they would clear over the passenger valve cover...and getting the air cleaner plastic elbow to fit without hitting the driver's side valve cover, etc.

Bob and his "youthful ward" are experts at solving problems. In the end it was an amazing result that looks totally stock from the outside.

I'm a cheap old bastard so I went the old school route with the $90 Summit racing cam, forged pistons, ARP rod bolts, and traditional hipo parts. 400 HP and 500 lbs of torque ain't bad for a low budget 455 build.
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I'm the same way - cheap old bastard / spend thrift.

He went beyond necessary in several areas of his build for that level of power. But thats Bob. And its bulletproof.
And i know he is happy.

That platform could have went around 600hp , possibly more.


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400 HP and 500 lbs of torque ain't bad for a low budget 455 build.
a blind squirrel could find that nut with an 068 base cam and JC Whitney re-ring kit
lol- just jabbing with you Steve
But it really is about that easy.

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Old 06-21-2018, 09:21 PM
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Years ago we took an 81 Bandit and put a 69 400 with a set of Edlebrock alum. heads and it made for one mad bandit .. cars is still running that set up to this day .. just a thought
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Did that 81 have a "Turbo" style hood
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Shaker style hood ?

Mostly asking because can't remember for sure if 81 was even offered with a Shaker.
Know it could be swapped if desired , either way.
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Yes, T/A's in 1981 would have their normal centered Shaker scoop for the normal 301, or the Chevy 305. And just as in 1980, they would get the offset bulge/lights for the 301T.


I find it nuts that anyone in 1980+ that had $10k+ burning a hole in their pocket would even think about getting a new TA versus finding anything in the 1970-72 range, or a 73-74 Super Duty. You could have bought an SD, and restored it to brand new with factory supplied parts for less than 6-7 grand at that time. Or just waited for a low-mileage car to come around.




....ahhh whatever.
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Thanks 9999, i knew 80 was that way but wasnt sure on 81.

He didn't say if his was Turbo or not, or which hood .
then we'll know


But he did say it was a Bandit Edition
Halfway lead me to think maybe it was a Tbo car

79 is where most of my knowledge stops.
never followed the 301 cars , they were always behind me.
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