Corona Virus Member Discussion

[Lee Stewart]

Trump steps up effort to tout malaria drug as coronavirus 'game changer' despite doubts from FDA

President Trump doubled down on his campaign to cast a malaria drug as a coronavirus cure, saying the treatment could be a game changer despite skepticism from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and other government officials.

When asked on Friday if hydroxychloroquine could be used to prevent COVID-19, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government's top infectious disease expert, replied "no."

"The information that you're referring to specifically is anecdotal," Fauci added. "It was not done in a controlled clinical trial, so you really can't make any definitive statement about it."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

[Lee Stewart]

If you have never seen one, this is a ventilator. If the manufacturers name rings a bell, they also manufacturer rebreathers - the underwater air supply that leaves no bubbles - used by all Special Forces military

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

I can tell you from experience - my own - being in the ICU two times that you are dealing with people - not machines. They come in, wake you up if you are sleeping, tell you that have to take your medication and watch you take it. The last time I was in the ICU for the flu due to a shift change I wound up taking my Theraflu medication 2X - one more than was necessary. No big deal.

But if a mistake is made with hydroxychloroquine - you get double dosed - you die. Simple as that.

And please don't tell me that hospital staff/doctors don't make mistakes. We can head that one off at the pass right now!

Ok I understand what you are saying. By the looks of it the amount of medicine needed will be quite small in conjunction with a ZPack.

How it will be administered remains to be seen.

Its effectiveness also needs to be proven.

As an aside this medicine was evaluated on primate in 2004 with respect to COVID/SARS and was found to be effective, however human trials were not needed as SARS resolved through containment.

Here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

[Lee Stewart]

[70 copo]

Of note is that the current containment methods employed here in Ohio is working.

Ohio only gained +1 today moving from 247 to 248.

Real Data can be found below without the hyped up "Bomb Impact" visuals.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

Ok I understand what you are saying. By the looks of it the amount of medicine needed will be quite small in conjunction with a ZPack.

How it will be administered remains to be seen.

Its effectiveness also needs to be proven.

As an aside this medicine was evaluated on primate in 2004 with respect to COVID/SARS and was found to be effective, however human trials were not needed as SARS resolved through containment.

Here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

No disrespect intended to you 70 copo but I like my facts coming from an expert like I posted just above the photo (post# 141). Not from someone's hope or speculation as you are posting.

Hey - you may be 100% correct. Then again you maybe 100% wrong. So much is not known about CV19 that comparisons to previous virus's is pretty much worthless when it comes to medicinal treatment.

[70 copo]

In context:

The FLU has killed over 22,000 people already this season

Think about that since the lethality of COVID-19 is becoming more clear as the days roll on.

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

No disrespect intended to you 70 copo but I like my facts coming from an expert like I posted just above the photo (post# 141). Not from someone's hope or speculation as you are posting.

Hey - you may be 100% correct. Then again you maybe 100% wrong. So much is not known about CV19 that comparisons to previous virus's is pretty much worthless when it comes to medicinal treatment.

No disrespect either Lee,

So where do you fall on this matter? Are you a "Doomer" or are you just cheerleeding for the virus?

I am asking because certain elements of the political fringes give the appearance of hoping the virus destroys the economy for an election advantage, and it is not at all lost on my observations that the media sources you keep posting as evidence are known to be aligned on one side of this fringe... Care to comment?

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

In context:

The FLU has killed over 22,000 people already this season

Think about that since the lethality of COVID-19 is becoming more clear as the days roll on.

The Mortality Rate for the FLU is about 0.01%. The MR for CV19 is 0.04% - 4X higher

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

The Mortality Rate for the FLU is about 0.01%. The MR for CV19 is 0.04% - 4X higher

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

OK

We will see and it will not be long either.