L89 Nova??????? - Page 8

**Late BrakeU2** · #71 12-12-2008, 09:33 PM

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that whole article was about 90% BS...hood story included.

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Don't think you are off base in the slightest. When a buff mag does a piece on a car built a quarter century earlier that perpetuates myth it is irresponsible journalisim. It might not mean much to the 90% of people reading the article for the pure fictional aspect,but to the 10% of core enthusiasts(that are members here) the passion is in seeking truth.

Obviously with no factory support it's been open season for forty years of grey,unfortuately the battle will never end. The "GM did strange things back then" all encompassing black hole that includes aluminum head cars,4spd LS5 monte carlos,nov built LS6 chevelles,etc has made it frustating love with these,and ripe for fraud.

No (real)docs,no dice JMO

**Bill Pritchard** · #72 12-13-2008, 06:25 AM

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Don't think you are off base in the slightest. When a buff mag does a piece on a car built a quarter century earlier that perpetuates myth it is irresponsible journalisim. It might not mean much to the 90% of people reading the article for the pure fictional aspect,but to the 10% of core enthusiasts(that are members here) the passion is in seeking truth.

Obviously with no factory support it's been open season for forty years of grey,unfortuately the battle will never end. The "GM did strange things back then" all encompassing black hole that includes aluminum head cars,4spd LS5 monte carlos,nov built LS6 chevelles,etc has made it frustating love with these,and ripe for fraud.

No (real)docs,no dice JMO

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What he said.

**kwhizz** · #73 12-13-2008, 03:21 PM

And......How do you tell "Real" doc's anymore....These "Holy Grail" cars that fall out of the sky with some Documentation that nobody get's to look at(Not that I would know real paperwork anyway)...... In my unsophisticated point of view......tracking, verifying and documenting the prior ownership would be another piece of the Puzzle to establishing credibility for the 1 of 1 cars that "Just" show up one day.....Just my $.02
If I had one of the Holy Grail cars I would going overboard to "Prove" the authenticity and Pedigree of the Vehicle rather than just say "Believe Me"......It's easy to put a L-89 car together..........

Ken

**iluv69s** · #74 12-13-2008, 04:43 PM

So this car in question is apparently atleast a real LS-6 conv...nothing to sneeze at...so where is it now?? Anyone know??? Is the build sheet available to see?? (Not that I would know a real build sheet from a fake one)Has anyone actually seen it to 100% verify that its bogus?? I assume no other glass hoods have showed up on build sheets or in person?? I remember many years ago a local fellow that knew I was really into early Camaros showed up with a fiberglass cowl hood stating that it was on his car since the 60's and it was a real GM hood...I noticed the oblong cutout underneath and all..but I was sure it was an aftermerket hood, so I did not give him the 200 bucks he wanted for it... dduuhhhh!! At the time, I dont think anyone believed that the glass x-ram hoods existed???

BTW...if these one-off "Holy Grail" cars did not show up now and then, we would all be pretty bored, wouldn't we !!! hehehe

Keith Tedford · #75 12-13-2008, 06:40 PM

I think the Smithsonian Institute and others can identify paper and its age. Won't come cheap though but might buts a few myths. HEY!! We need the Mythbusters here. What's the story on 4 speed Monte Carlos. I saw a dark green '70-'72 402 4 speed around here many years ago. It looked original but who knows?

**Mr70** · #76 12-13-2008, 07:37 PM

SS 454 M/C were the ones w/o 4spd.
Boy..is this thread all over the place from it's intended title.

**m22mike** · #77 12-13-2008, 09:02 PM

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I think the Smithsonian Institute and others can identify paper and its age. Won't come cheap though but might buts a few myths. HEY!! We need the Mythbusters here. What's the story on 4 speed Monte Carlos. I saw a dark green '70-'72 402 4 speed around here many years ago. It looked original but who knows?

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You could get a 4 speed box in a 70 or 71 Monte Carlo.
Not in a 72.
A friends Mom had a 70 350 cid 4 bbl W a 3.36 ?? I think, she was pissed at the saleman cause see wanted it w a 4.10 gear and could not get it.

Mike

**Carleen** · #78 12-15-2008, 03:25 AM

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Re: definative LS7 info

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I have owned a 70 El Camino for 15 years. the engine # is T0218CRS. It does have Alum heads and a Turbo400 trans. The back of the block has the 3963512 casting number. It came from a highly regarded Scottsdale collector. I think I've got the real deal. What more can I do to be sure? (No build sheet.)

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/show...;highlight=ls7

CRS 1970 Chevelle 454 450 TH LS-6 SHP, alum hd

I dont know?Im not an expert

**SS427** · #79 12-15-2008, 10:20 PM

That El Camino has been inspected and shown to have likely started life as an SS396 NOT a 454 and certainly not an LS-6. Unfortunately, another case of an innocent enthusiast being duped into buying what he thought was a legitimate car.

SS454Elky · #80 12-15-2008, 11:57 PM

My '71 SS454 El Camino has a white faced 6500 RPM redline tach. I have owned this car since the early 80's and know its history into the 70's. Obviously its not an LS6, but I think it lends credence that at some point an LS6 nearly made it into the 1971 line-up. It just seems crazy that they would put that tach into a hydraulic liftered engine. It would just be inviting warranty issues. Weird things happened.