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Old 11-04-2023, 08:49 PM
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Joel would never say he didn’t use the copo program, from what Iv always read in multiple articles was he didn’t RECALL using any copos ,,,recall and didn’t two different statements , so there is possibility !
Joel told me personally one night when we were in his shop with Judy that he was not aware there was a COPO program for 1969 Camaros. That's why all of his 1969 427 Camaros are Super Sports. He ordered them with the L78 then changed the short block for an L72.

Motion was in Baldwin, I lived in Lynbrook, just a couple of towns away. He worked on my 1967 Corvette and my 1969 Camaro SS.
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Old 11-05-2023, 03:21 AM
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He said the same thing when he attended SCR many years ago. The L-78 short block take outs were sold post transplant through the Baldwin parts dept.
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Old 11-05-2023, 12:01 PM
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I have a tape recording somewhere the night Joel talked to us about this @ the Supercar Reunion in Collinsville back in Aug. 2003.He was very well received by all,and stated he did not know about the COPO program back then,there was a hush in the crowd afterwards. https://www.yenko.net/reunion/2003reunion.htm
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Old 11-05-2023, 12:26 PM
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Wow, it looks like the 2003 reunion was awesome! I wish we could get that kind of turn out now. I believe age has caught up to most of the owners and they don't want to travel with their cars anymore.
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Old 11-05-2023, 12:39 PM
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Joel told me personally one night when we were in his shop with Judy that he was not aware there was a COPO program for 1969 Camaros. That's why all of his 1969 427 Camaros are Super Sports. He ordered them with the L78 then changed the short block for an L72.

Motion was in Baldwin, I lived in Lynbrook, just a couple of towns away. He worked on my 1967 Corvette and my 1969 Camaro SS.
So apparently Jack Douglass knew about the program but didn't tell Joel.
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----Jacks Dad was a high up executive at GM. When he retired he moved to Hinsdale and opened Jack Douglass Chevrolet. Upon his fathers passing Jsck stepped in. He was the youngest owner of any GM dealer at that time. Eventually When Billy Jacobs Dad passed he also took over the Chevy dealership in Joliet Il., and he was younger than Jack was at that point so Jack lost that dubious accolade. It makes sense that Jack would hear about the COPO program as his family was so connected to GM.....Bill S
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So apparently Jack Douglass knew about the program but didn't tell Joel.
How about the several ordered copos from Baldwin Chevy
No one from Baldwin Chevy talked Joel either??
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So apparently Jack Douglass knew about the program but didn't tell Joel.
Jack knew about the COPO fleet program but found out about the L72 Performance COPO by happenstance, when he found a dealer shipper/invoice in one of the Canonsburg Yenko Camaros.
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For what it’s worth, I spoke to Joel about Motion COPOs many years ago and he did not recall using the program for any of his “builds”. I let him know that there was a photo in a magazine of a Dark colored 1969 Camaro, in his shop that seemed to look like a COPO L72, don’t recall the magazine. He conceded that he may have tuned it or worked on it or others.
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For what it’s worth, I spoke to Joel about Motion COPOs many years ago and he did not recall using the program for any of his “builds”. I let him know that there was a photo in a magazine of a Dark colored 1969 Camaro, in his shop that seemed to look like a COPO L72, don’t recall the magazine. He conceded that he may have tuned it or worked on it or others.
Hi Performance CARS, November 1969.

Hone-O-Drive installation article with the Motion COPO. Article says owner Marc Cohen drove the 4.56 geared car back to his home in Ohio from New York, and referred to it as a Phase III car. Doesn't really say if it was a Baldwin purchased car or if he brought it in to be Phase III tuned.
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