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Default Some sort of factory documentation for Muncie shift lever

Yesterday we showed our recently restored 1969 Malibu 350/300 4 speed at the AACA Hersey Fall Nationals. I ordered the car new, and it is done to perfection, all correct.
A judge however questioned the "Muncie" engraving (factory of course) on my bench seat 4 speed shift handle.
AACA requires judges to ask the owner for documentation if they are unsure of an item.
My original window sticker only shows M20 4 speed, no mention of "Muncie", likewise, all my other documentation. Now, we all know Muncie was GM's transmission arm, but these judges didn't.
Try as I might, I cannot find a Chevroletr factory photo of the shifter, and I've been scouring GM Parts Wiki but can't find anything that shows a link to Muncie for a shift lever.

Is there anyone out there with better searching skills that can point me to something I can use if this comes up again ? (BTW, they did give me the benefit of the doubt and didn't deduct.....this time). Happily, we got our Senior award.

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Maybe the AACA should have judges that know what they are doing.
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I suppose. They do sort of advocate however that judges, in most cases, should not be "experts" on the cars they are judging as they might tend to be overly critical. They're not supposed to "nitpick", rather, evaluate how close does the car appear to be as it would have been delivered by the dealer.

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If a car show judge is going judge a car then he should know how to judge a car. Not your fault he doesn’t know how to do the task.

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A few years ago Chuck Hanson told me of getting a call from someone who was at an AACA show and having a judge dispute his '70 Chevelle SS 396 having chrome valve covers. Yet I have seen cars with AACA's highest awards with many glaring authenticity issues.

This car would be a hit at MCACN, would love to see pix!!

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A judge that doesn't know a Muncie shifter was standard with a Muncie transmission ??? Yes, they had their name stamped in the handle, just like Hurst has. Maybe the judge has only seen all the Hurst replacement shifters, since the Muncie shifter wasn't the best for rapid gear changes and usually got replaced early on.
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A few years ago Chuck Hanson told me of getting a call from someone who was at an AACA show and having a judge dispute his '70 Chevelle SS 396 having chrome valve covers. Yet I have seen cars with AACA's highest awards with many glaring authenticity issues.

This car would be a hit at MCACN, would love to see pix!!

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Do you mean pix of my car or the SS you were referring to?
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Do you mean pix of my car or the SS you were referring to?
I meant to say, YOUR car would be a hit at MCACN (especially being an original owner car!) and would love to see pix of it!!
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If a car show judge is going judge a car then he should know how to judge a car. Not your fault he doesn’t know how to do the task.

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We had the 6cyl Hugger Orange 1970 Nova at the Rhinebeck spring car show a number of years ago. When the judges came by to 'look her over' one of them asked me who painted the car?? I told him Chevrolet...he said he meant to ask "who repainted it?" I tried to explain it was not repainted and was original factory lacquer paint.

After some back and forth one of the 'gentlemen' finally figured it out and they went on their way. They ended up giving me an award just as I was ready to go home.

My sense is they were judging more on cosmetics and less on originality...that was my last visit to their show field.

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I meant to say, YOUR car would be a hit at MCACN (especially being an original owner car!) and would love to see pix of it!!
totally agree! would love to see pix! definitely a sure fit at the MCACN.
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