The cost of non matching numbers car?

Andre · #1 08-20-2015, 06:55 PM

I'm trying to establish a price on a car that is restored and received a Concours Gold award but is not a matching numbers car. The engine is correct casting and date code but not original to the car. Trans is not and I cannot confirm if rear diff is or not. Casting number is 9792977 and my research so far indicates 9783393 is correct for the differential. Is there a percentage or dollar amount to deduct? Car is a base motor automatic with factory air 1967 GTO hardtop. Any ideas?? Thanks guys.

Jim Ferron · #2 08-20-2015, 08:17 PM

Seems like nobody like to chime in on these WIW threads...but I'll give you an opinion.

I'm guessing 15-20% on a non-engine [base] specific car which a 67 GTO would be...

Certainly a NON numbers LS-6 would take a bigger, much bigger hit. As would a RAM AIR GTO vs. a 335 hp car. A 383 Roadrunner less [10-15%]...a Hemi Roadrunner more...IMO

**Stefano** · #3 08-20-2015, 08:48 PM

I would agree with Jim's assessment. Sometimes a non original engine car is worth less and sometimes it's worth a lot less. But it is determined on a case by case basis.

**427TJ** · #4 08-21-2015, 04:14 PM

Are you sure it's a real GTO? What does the PHS say?

watk69 · #5 08-21-2015, 04:39 PM

I thought the idea of Concours Certification and esp Gold would mean it has the Big 3 still intact (block, trans and rear). Kinda like NCRS giving Gold status to restamps with a footnote. It cheapens everything for me [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

As far as the car, if nothing's original about it as far as the big 3, its a nice hot rod and driver and worth half what an original car is YMMV

Clif

Andre · #6 08-21-2015, 11:04 PM

Its a true GTO per the PHS and the VIN. All the casting numbers and dates are correct but the engine unit number is not. The rear differential is correct. It's a beautiful car with high quality work done. Thanks for all the responses guys. I talked to the judge and they look for correctness and not if it's born with it on the car if that makes sense. Anybody care to ballpark a price?

L78steve · #7 08-22-2015, 12:27 AM

Depends on the buyer. I don't put a lot of stock in matching numbers. As long as it is correct with a solid body and quality work.
I see cars that are junk with matching numbers sell for way more than I think they are worth. Its just personal preference.

**Salvatore** · #8 08-22-2015, 03:01 AM

Donnie White GTO-DON may be able to help you with that answer.

Jim Ferron · #9 08-22-2015, 05:24 PM

Well how about this, Does the car you are looking at have anything cool about it other than it's restoration? 4 Speed?, Rally dash? H.O.? Red fender liners? Any cool stuff like that? Good Original color? To PHS spec?

If it's just a super restored run of the mill car...50K is a ton for a 67 GTO...But lets say it is ...50K Orig everything...38K tribute drivetrain? AM I close?
Can't buy ANY frame off 'Gold Standard' car for 30K anymore right? Costs too much to get there...

**tom406** · #10 08-23-2015, 04:40 AM

I was thinking $35-40k as well based on what you are describing. On a base motor automatic, I don't think the replacement engine hurts the value much on that particular car.