69 Pontiac Firebird and GTO- Hot, Hotter ,Hottest

[auwrestling]

Originally Posted by turbo69bird

So i checked on the ZM that I had seen that was from a 69 in the 80s and the owner confirmed it ended up being a 68 housing. So it in fact was NOT a 4.33 69 rear so we can take that out of the mix. It would have been a ZR stamping for 68
So all that leaves is some cars listed in early 70s for sale w 4.33 which could have easily been swapped in so. I’ll concede that there hasn’t been one known to exists yet .

But I still was pretty sure that that language ( & special order axle ) meant a 4.33 axle at least if it was on the PHS .
Which I’d agree is better to go with than the window sticker.. plus different things were done at different times of year . No idea what build date your car is.

I just thought we may be looking at a really super rare example in Matt’s car which would have been even more amazing.

My car is first week of March

[turbo69bird]

Jack was from Brooklyn used to hang out w him at e town a lot . Nunzis cousin car was corvette summer fantastic!

I’d have left that car just the way it was there’s so few examples of what was done during that time period. Could always have restored it later . There’s so many restored cars. Would have been something really different.

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

My car is first week of March

Same as mine 03a

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

Hi Gary, mine is the original window sticker!

Which means our repros are likely worded incorrectly

So the next interesting thing is that my RAIV car doesn’t list the decor group but had everything on the decor group. Wheel molding, drip edge bright work, pedal trim, rocker moldings wheel opening chrome,” north” had said something. About it being changed on March 17th and that many cars had all of it even though only part part was listed on the PHS . Seemed like maybe those pieces were added automatically w the ram air IV option as I can’t think of one I’ve seen without it.

[MarcDant]

Wow talk about endangered species those are some rare birds good thread. thanks for the all the pics.

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by turbo69bird

Is that Jack Romanos old car?

Yes

[auwrestling]

Originally Posted by turbo69bird

Which means our repros are likely worded incorrectly

So the next interesting thing is that my RAIV car doesn’t list the decor group but had everything on the decor group. Wheel molding, drip edge bright work, pedal trim, rocker moldings wheel opening chrome,” north” had said something. About it being changed on March 17th and that many cars had all of it even though only part part was listed on the PHS . Seemed like maybe those pieces were added automatically w the ram air IV option as I can’t think of one I’ve seen without it.

Those trim packages are definitely not part of the raiv option. As far as I know wheel opening molding and rocker panel molding were standard issue on 69 Firebird, except for Trans Am.

[muscle_collector]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

Never heard that Steve.

i have heard this but never seen any proof of it. actually i have never seen any hard evidence that any firebird actually came with a 4:33 rear

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

Those trim packages are definitely not part of the raiv option. As far as I know wheel opening molding and rocker panel molding were standard issue on 69 Firebird, except for Trans Am.

Good info check a thread on it on PY though cause north said something changed on March 17th don’t remember if it had to do w the stainless on the drip rails or what. It’s a recent thread though.

[RamAirBirds]

Funny, My Silver RAIV Car posted Earlier is also an 03A. March first week.