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Old 02-07-2020, 03:42 AM
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Relisted in the link below for $199,000.

Link to 1961 409 Fleetmaster auction
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:19 PM
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Never owned one like this but looked at it in detail. Few things

1. Original engine should be with it.
2. In my opinion the pop is "Fake"
3. Value 115-125k (if the real McCoy)
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Old 02-07-2020, 10:40 PM
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He's lookin' for in the neighborhood of $200K and won't spend $10K for the original block?

Oops, never mind, didn't know the original block was unusable and not VIN stamped.
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Old 02-08-2020, 02:11 AM
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Growing up, my Dad had a 61 2 door fleetmaster Byscayne too. Never realized only 138 2 doors were made and we had one. Straight 6 and rusted away by the early 70's

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Allegedly known by our own Verne Frantz...sure looks like a very cool car. If it was in fact ordered this way, as claimed by the seller, wow....

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Old 02-08-2020, 02:24 AM
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The original block was so broken and rusty it was beyond repair.
The block in it now is one of the last cast in the third batch and is a true 623 '61 block. Oddly enough, it has a VIN on it (which wasn't done in '61 production). The VIN belongs to an Atlanta '62 Chevy!



I interrogated the engine thoroughly through Butch after he bought it from Lamar Waldon.



The unique parts of a '61 409 are entirely interchangeable with the parts of later 409s, and vice-versa.


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Old 02-08-2020, 02:28 AM
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138 was the production of V8 Fleetmasters. Another 497 were built with 6cyl engines.


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Old 02-08-2020, 02:37 AM
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I’ve seen the car in person & love the way it was restored with its patched inner fenders and dash pinstriping preserved because it represents the car’s history, character, and individuality. As far as the block goes, it gets a pass from me because this car was a racecar it’s whole life and the OEM block was sacrificed to the horsepower gods to build the 409 legend that still endures today. If I were building a GM musclecar collection, it would be bookended with this car in the beginning and a 1974 SD455 Pontiac at the opposite end.
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Ol' Fleetmaster is back on the block, with new pics:

Link to 1961 Fleetmaster 409 auction
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