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Old 08-05-2015, 01:59 AM
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Jeez Phil. Didn't we just here in the thread that shall not be named you had never met anyone who had painted a car at the factory with a paint pot? Now all of a sudden its normal practice for special order paint. Selective memory, or pot stirring.
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Old 08-05-2015, 02:12 AM
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Old 08-05-2015, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Special Order Paint Process

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mark_C</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jeez Phil. Didn't we just here in the thread that shall not be named you had never met anyone who had painted a car at the factory with a paint pot? Now all of a sudden its normal practice for special order paint. Selective memory, or pot stirring. </div></div>

Mark,

Here is what I said in the now locked thread:

William,

Have you ever met a guy from the Fisher Body division at Norwood who sprayed out of a paint pot?

This was a question to stimulate intelligent discussion. My questions were ignored.
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Thank you, great info [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif[/img]
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Phil, thank you for sharing all of your research, both on the forums and at the shows.
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Old 08-05-2015, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Special Order Paint Process

Just goes to show that never say never w/these old cars !! I remember seeing judges at the Camaro Nationals arguing over which way the alternator brackets went on a 67 Z... for many years they never made a Z-28 vert either !! Neat info !!!
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Thanks for getting input from the guys who were at the plant Phil.
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Old 08-05-2015, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Special Order Paint Process

Very interesting to say the least. This info confirms some of the stuff I posted in the other thread. My old Buick with special paint was one of the worst factory applied paint jobs I've ever seen; now I know how and why. Also confirms the overspray I spoke of, and the good possibility of a mis-match. So the front clip was installed by the time it went in for the spray, but without color?!? The front end on that GS REALLY didn't match, but maybe some special paint cars do.....they just might not match side to side! Great information to say the least. Thanks for digging it up and posting!!!
I hope (also like I said in the other post) that all involved can take a breather and look at this stuff a little more open-minded. Things were WAY different back then in the car business.......
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:12 AM
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The one concept I like to preach in this hobby is EVOLUTION. It is constantly changing and for the better. What was once considered a fantastic and correct restoration is now average or even considered a custom. With the knowledge we have on part numbers, castings, date ranges and now more technical aspects such as processes and procedures the pool of information is vast. Things change as new information and documents are brought to light. A lot of what was believed to be correct has been debunked, or at the vary least proven to have multiple variations. We can all learn a lot more moving forward by keeping an open mind. Remember when undercarriages were all black, COPO's didn't exist and they never ever made 427 Chevelles.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img]

Thanks Phil for understanding and using the resources at hand to dig a bit deeper... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

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Old 08-05-2015, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Special Order Paint Process

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know in the past I have spoken in absolutes on the wiper transmission issue... I was wrong.

Thanks for taking the time to do the research on this Phil.

To answer Mr70

The wiper transmission was installed on cars by fisher was after the body was painted, however in the case of SPL Paint the front ends were installed as fully assembled primed units then in repair booth they were stripped of trim to a practical point taped and painted reassembled and finished.

Normally we say as an absolute that over spray on a wiper transmission would not have happened at the factory as this goes to show you, the only absolute is there are no absolutes.
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Just trying to learn and understand. When they added the striping on say a Z were those done off line as well or in Chevrolets paint booth? Why or how would paint get on the wiper trans unless they forgot to spray the cowl area on the fisher side? Just trying to determine how overspray ended up on the wiper trans in one spot on my 68 Z. LOS car also..











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