ZL1 #9 Barrett Jackson - Where's Waldo

[ANDY M]

Lovely discussion, but nothing that hasn't been beat to death here before.
Two observations: Please stop with the spelling out of the word quote. There is a "key" on
every keyboard that serves this purpose. (Yes, I have a degree in English).
Second, is there a good way to say "donor" body vs. Dynacorn repop body? The English
language is famous for finding ways to say "powerful organic substance" instead of "bullshit".

[Billohio]

Some reason quote gets spelled when the old messages are used in the newer messages. It does make it hard to read.

[Rsconv68]

I myself don’t care if it’s rebodied, as long as the original drivetrain parts are there. To me, if the car was missing the drivetrain, it’s not worth the same. JMHO.

[RichSchmidt]

IMO if the VIN on the dash don't match the hidden VIN the car is a fraud and should receive a new government issued VIN as a reconstructed vehicle. You can't stop someone from grafting an original firewall to a donor body but at least make that much effort. IMO if the original firewall is gone the car no longer exists.

[PeteLeathersac]

Originally Posted by Rsconv68

I myself don’t care if it’s rebodied, as long as the original drivetrain parts are there. To me, if the car was missing the drivetrain, it’s not worth the same. JMHO.

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I’m of the complete Opposite opinion to this one, NO Rebody of any kind wanted here but an Indisputable Original 9560/9561 car w/ Missing Drivetrain would be a dream come true!
Replacement Drivetrain would be correct but NO Restamps…bring on the Real L78’s/Z28’s too!

~ Pete

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[Formula455SD]

I would rather have a "real" car missing its original drivetrain than a rebody with a numbers drivetrain. IMWO a rebody is a clone with a drivetrain and a vin swap.

[GMC_Typhoon]

Rebodied cars are fake. If I put a rusted out Typhoon VIN on a 4x4 Jimmy, I got a fake Typhoon.

[DW31S]

I’m not sure I’d consider a rebody (I’m talking a bonafide, legitimate, documented job) a clone. Is a rebody as good as an original? Of course not, but it sure is better (in my opinion) than taking a 123 (6cyl) and stuffing in an OTC ZL-1 and calling it a ZL-1. I firmly believe there is a market for a person who isn’t terribly wealthy or hasn’t hit the PowerBall to possibly own a ZL-1, or a ‘68 Hemi Dart, or something of the like. Let’s face it, the cars we are discussing were built to be raced, not pampered…they were never intended to be treated as jewelry. If changing the tub is the only way to save a rare car, then as long as it’s not done with malicious intent, and is fully disclosed, I’m OK with it. Now, I’ll play the Devil’s advocate…is it OK to knowingly misrepresent a rebody as the real thing years later and after some of the informed may have passed or retired from the hobby? No, and I say prosecute the perpetrator to the fullest extent possible.

[RichSchmidt]

So just how much of a car's original body shell must remain in order to say the car isn't a rebody? If someone restored a car using only the original cowl and firewall (thus never separating the VIN tag from the hidden VIN) and grafting it onto the original unrestored body of a car that was built in the same week on the same assembly line would that be o.k.?

[Z282NV]

Originally Posted by RichSchmidt

So just how much of a car's original body shell must remain in order to say the car isn't a rebody? If someone restored a car using only the original cowl and firewall (thus never separating the VIN tag from the hidden VIN) and grafting it onto the original unrestored body of a car that was built in the same week on the same assembly line would that be o.k.?

It's pretty simple to me. Just disclose exactly what was done to the car and let prospective buyers decide for themselves what it is. This is possible where builders and or restores are still around. In cases where they are not then inspection by a reputable person(s) maybe the only way.

People keeping registries on high end significant cars can add notes into those registries to outline what has been done and when.