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Old 11-17-2010, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

"What Bergy has is a whole car with VIN on the dash"


Above is a quote from Tracker's post. Unless I missed something, this has not been proven. This is the kind of crap that gets me going. Why would you say this tracker unless you know something that the rest of us don't?
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:38 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO140</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;What Bergy has is a whole car with VIN on the dash&quot;


Above is a quote from Tracker's post. Unless I missed something, this has not been proven. This is the kind of crap that gets me going. Why would you say this tracker unless you know something that the rest of us don't? </div></div>

COPO140, I don't believe you can deny that Bergy has a whole car with a Yenko VIN on the dash, that's all I was saying. What is being debated is if he has THE whole car that goes WITH that VIN or not. I don't know if he does or if he doesn't anymore than you do. I was just trying to establish if a shell with a hidden VIN and no VIN tag was more legitimate or desirable than a shell with just a dash VIN tag. I was not referring to bergy's car as a whole &quot;yenko&quot; car, just a whole car. Please place panties on ironing board, apply steam.

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Old 11-17-2010, 04:46 PM
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In today's day of people restamping and creating just about anything that could establish an extraordinary value, has there been any examples known as to where someone has restamped the hidden vins on a car yet? I would think that this could be replicated just as easily as block or part stamping could be.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

To answer this question:

&quot;I was just trying to establish if a shell with a hidden VIN and no VIN tag was more legitimate or desirable than a shell with just a dash VIN tag.&quot;

A body with orig vin stampings is the legitimate VIN. Simply installing a VIN tag to a car body that has different VIN stampings is a rebody.

BTW the example you use is not necessarily the case in the car being discussed. A physical examination has yet to done so it is undetermined at this time.
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Tracker states: &quot;I was just trying to establish if a shell with a hidden VIN and no VIN tag was more legitimate or desirable than a shell with just a dash VIN tag.&quot; Yes, An original body shell with the original, unmolested confidential VIN and no VIN tag IS more desirable than a shell with just a VIN tag because of the C-VIN's permanancy. Thats why they were placed there in that particular spot in the first place-to avoid removal and addition and provide a birthmark, so to speak. And also YES and YES to answer your question in a previous post as SYC did........ Verification in this order: viewing of legally assigned in-hand title with owner present; untampered with public VIN tag; untampered with C-VINs (&quot;C&quot; means confidential VIN). A friend I know a few years back mentioned a Daytona in Canada that was down a big ravine or similar, where a crane was needed to get it out. He never followed it up I believe. Is this the same car? .............
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:48 PM
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Exactly how many hidden vins are on a 1969 Camaro including the engine and transmission stamps?
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Is this the same car? .............

Yes.
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Exactly how many hidden VINs are there?

There are 2 C-VINs.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

In general,I believe 3,Engine/Trans./Firewall.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:11 PM
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Actually 4 in total..
Engine and Trans plus the two Firewall stampings.

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