From Within GM Camaro-Again At Risk.

[70 copo]

From my contacts at Tech... The next refresh for Camaro has been placed on hold indefinitely.

All current design and engineering focus has shifted to Electric and driverless vehicles.

Mary Barra has told senior staff that sales must improve "or the car is gone".

As of now no new Product identified for Lansing Grand River Assembly after 2022

[BCreekDave]

I think the 2019 version is going to kill it. Not an inspired design at all.
I think they are going like Ford to drop all conventional car designs in favor of CUV's-SUV's and hybrids-electric vehicles.

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by BCreekDave

I think the 2019 version is going to kill it. Not an inspired design at all.
I think they are going like Ford to drop all conventional car designs in favor of CUV's-SUV's and hybrids-electric vehicles.

History repeats.

Back in 96 the same thing happened. The bean counters managed the decline of the car starting in 1996 when the same “at risk” talk started. The 1998 refresh gave the car a Sebring front end look to match the Celica look out back.

They created the conditions for failure.

[rlw68]

Yea my neighbors Tesla model S will smoke my Z in the 0-60mph but it aint nearly as fun to drive imho. He pays a LOT more property tax every year too lol.

[Postsedan]

Sad

Dan

[markinnaples]

The cycle of life at GM; once the bean counters take over, everything gets drilled down to the sales and profits. Just the way things go I guess.

[Steve Shauger]

The Mustang seems to be selling quite nicely, so there is a market. With information like this getting out it will help kill a product. Yes there will be loyalist who will campaign to keep it, but this is just a bad strategy.


For clarification this was not directed towards the original poster. As far as aesthetics, the Mustang is a much more appealing car to me.

[Big Block Bill]

Originally Posted by Steve Shauger

The Mustang seems to be selling quite nicely, so there is a market. With information like this getting out it will help kill a product. Yes there will be loyalist who will campaign to keep it, but this is just a bad strategy.


For clarification this was not directed towards the original poster. As far as aesthetics, the Mustang is a much more appealing car to me.

I have been a Chevrolet Guy my whole life as a Master Certified ASE Technician (40 years) When looking for another "Toy" I looked at a new Loaded, 2018 ZL-1 Camaro ($67,500.00 out the door after deep discounts) a new 2018 Scat-Pack Shaker Hood Challenger ($47,500 out the door / but dated styling) and ended up with a Loaded 2019 Black Mustang GT California Special with the 3:55 Gear and the new 10 Speed Automatic ($50,000.00 out the door after an "X" Plan employee discount through a Friend's Wife. Let me tell you it WILL make you a believer! With 460 Horsepower & 11.80 1/4 times out of the box from the factory, and styling to look like a 1968 Shelby GT-500, it puts a smile on my Face everytime I get behind the wheel.

Like I posted before when I first got it, my oldest Son said I must have went over to the "Dark Side" or hit my Head REALLY Hard recently. I have taken a LOT of Flack from a LOT of people for buying a FORD, Go test drive one and you will see what I mean. The 10 Speed is Un-believable with the Active Exhaust and the 3:55 Gear option. It is the best option currently available in my opinion for the money.

Bill

[427TJ]

Originally Posted by Big Block Bill

I have been a Chevrolet Guy my whole life as a Master Certified ASE Technician (40 years) When looking for another "Toy" I looked at a new Loaded, 2018 ZL-1 Camaro ($67,500.00 out the door after deep discounts) a new 2018 Scat-Pack Shaker Hood Challenger ($47,500 out the door / but dated styling) and ended up with a Loaded 2019 Black Mustang GT California Special with the 3:55 Gear and the new 10 Speed Automatic ($50,000.00 out the door after an "X" Plan employee discount through a Friend's Wife. Let me tell you it WILL make you a believer! With 460 Horsepower & 11.80 1/4 times out of the box from the factory, and styling to look like a 1968 Shelby GT-500, it puts a smile on my Face everytime I get behind the wheel.

Like I posted before when I first got it, my oldest Son said I must have went over to the "Dark Side" or hit my Head REALLY Hard recently. I have taken a LOT of Flack from a LOT of people for buying a FORD, Go test drive one and you will see what I mean. The 10 Speed is Un-believable with the Active Exhaust and the 3:55 Gear option. It is the best option currently available in my opinion for the money.

Bill

Similar revelation back in 1987 when I bought an LX 5.0! Bang for the buck! Just under 13K and, for 1987, a blast to drive. I had been all-Chevy before that.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Originally Posted by markinnaples

The cycle of life at GM; once the bean counters take over, everything gets drilled down to the sales and profits. Just the way things go I guess.

Hate to see it go - again, but remember GM is in business to make money and while they prob make some profit on the Camaro the impact on overall company profit is very likely dilutive from a percentage basis. So, coming from a 'beancounter', I'm surprised it lasted this long - simply because GM expects contribution margin percentage from a model they really don't invest in.... It's simple math, unfortunately.