1969 Camaro Battery Tray

[William]

My concern here is that the MCACN judges did <span style="font-style: italic">exactly</span> that-jumped to the conclusion that the car had an incorrect battery tray. The docked points should be restored.

Point well taken-how many Camaros still have the original battery tray. Even otherwise original cars may have had the tray replaced decades ago due to a battery failure. We may never know.

There are often 'service' versions of a part once it goes &quot;non-current.&quot; The supplier that furnished 5,000 parts per week to production often is not interested in maintaining tooling and processing equipment for the small needs of service. So it gets shopped around. Over a long service life, several vendors may supply a part that fits and functions but has slight appearance differences.

[68camaroz28]

This has been on interesting journey so far as I was one who contacted Steve along with some other Camaro friends trying to understand what was wrong with the battery tray I had in our 68 Z/28 restoration. I thought I had checked it out and had a NOS GM service replacement but the judge at MCACN told me and deducted a point for just that &quot;service replacement.&quot; The judge who did a very good job found this by feel. Later that judge came back to look at our car and was complimentary and he tried to show me what he was feeling for but I was feeling in the wrong place and missed what he was trying to convey which was all my fault (dang hearing ain't what it used to be). I just thought no big deal and will check it out when I get home. Well, that is when I was shooting blanks as I could not see by comparing battery trays what was wrong until I contacted Steve and others for help and assistance. I have pictures and information on our restoration build over at Team Camaro but here is what I've put together so far concerning the tab. It's interesting that I have not seen a NOS service replacement and a few have been very old ones with that tab where the clamp bolts on. Another point brought out by a friend which I had started to note was the nuts on born with battery trays seems to always be angled whereas GM service replacements seem to be always straight.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/133-build-...tml#post3834690

Some of this tabulation is from trays posted here like Mikes two and Darrell's.
67 ??? ??? Jon’s 1100 mile take off-No Tab- Has angled nuts
67 11A LOS Has tab but not as pronounced as many.
68 03D NOR Has tab
68 05E LOS Has tab
68 06A NOR Has tab
68 07C NOR Has tab
68 07D NOR Has tab
69 ??? LOS Has tab
69 ??? NOR Has tab
69 ??? NOR No tab has angled nuts &amp; orig. battery hold down clamp
69 ??? ??? Has tab but not as pronounced as many.
69 01C NOR Has tab
69 02D NOR Has tab
69 03B NOR Has tab
69 09A NOR Has tab (late built)
69 09D NOR Has tab (late built)

[Steve Shauger]

To say Chick did an amazing job with both his research and restoration on this car is a understatement. The level of detail is just spectacular and you should be very happy and proud. Thanks for posting the details and adding your data.

[68camaroz28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To say Chick did an amazing job with both his research and restoration on this car is a understatement. The level of detail is just spectacular and you should be very happy and proud. Thanks for posting the details and adding your data. </div></div>

Thank you Steve!
Something else I've been noticing since reviewing battery trays are original Gen II trays (the few so far) have a tab also. Hopefully more survivor owners can chime in. This one was pictured was on ebay recently. Its also similar in that the tab can vary in amount. I wonder if the early take off Jon has with the two looking spikes was due to not having enough material when extruded (formed).

[jl8z28]

Just like the late 69 11A cars the door strikers were star's the 69 Zs had a 2003 distributor not a 480 and there were other things and this is through the legend judging I was told they were wrong

[cook_dw]

Are you referring to the Camaro Nationals with the legend judging? Also does the same group judge both the MCACN and Camaro Nationals in Maryland.?.

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you referring to the Camaro Nationals with the legend judging? Also does the same group judge both the MCACN and Camaro Nationals in Maryland.?. </div></div>

Guy is referring to the Camaro Nationals with respect to his score. I don't believe there are any judges that judge both events.

The Vintage program began at Carlisle/Camaro Nationals in 1999 and decided not to participate when it moved to Frederick, MD.

The components Guy is referring to, the striker hardware and distributor have been documented on late built unrestored cars.

[cook_dw]

Yes Steve Im aware of the strikers and dizzies but wanted to make sure there wasnt any confusion as to which group he was referring to.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]


Fact is everyone makes mistakes or oversights.. NO ONE is perfect. The best option is to do as what is being done whether its CRG or Vintage Cert (or both preferably) by educating everyone and trying to evaluate what was and wasnt used or possible.

[napa68]

Here is my LA car......



The tray appears to be pretty nice, making me wonder if its original, albeit the car is a 25k southern CA car.

[68camaroz28]

Yes Napa68, the battery tray appears in above condition and the original clamp has been replaced but your bolt with 3/4&quot; captured washer is correct. That can be difficult to obtain.
That brings up a question from a LOS battery tray Steve showed as the battery clamp bolt was different from what normally noticed. Was a different bolt used sometimes at LOS vs. NOR?