1969 ZL1 CAMARO VIN LIST

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by JoeC

I keep a file on the ZL-1 race cars. This is an old screen shot I saved on #61 where they said it was an old sand drag car

My goodness, how the mighty have/had fallen.

At least they didn't cut it up and make a pullin' tractor out of it.

K

[olredalert]

----You just can't make that up!.....Bill S

[JoeC]

some ZL-1s got it worse then that. At least one was said to be " berried alive " in an insurance fraud deal.

A few others were reported stolen.

[Lynn]

And then there is the guy in Canada that got "air titles" for 5 of the missing ZL1s, excuse me ZedL1s.

[Charley Lillard]

Updated auction description on # 61.

[lycan]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

Updated auction description on # 61.

Hammered at $700K

[61 vert]

Could be a law suit in the works. Craig Jackson stated it was the original motor but I had not heard that it truly had been found." Jerry Macneish certified "does not mean the motor was certified to be original to the car unless he specifically states that. Without seeing the macneish report it is irresponsible to assume anything other than that this cars cowl has VIN numbers that are on the Cunneen ZL1 list. This VIN is on the list as a Dover White non spoiler car, but evidently there is a problem as it is Fathom Green. Wait, Barrett Jackson says repo trim tag, so what color was this ZL1 when new? Maybe donor sheet metal was of a fathom green car so assumptions were made? Is there any 1st or second owner information available? and what about the spoilers, D80 or not? I would appreciate any accurate input if anyone wants to share as I am only speculating.

[Charley Lillard]

I think William stated when it was torn down for resto it was found to be green. I looked thru the cowl and there was no hidden vin. Since it didn't have a trim tag due to the firewall being cut out for racing I wonder how Jerry came up with the body # and trim tag details since there was no tag. I was told that someone with multiple images of other ZL1 engine stamps that the one on this one is different so I assume someone found a correct block and stamped it. My opinion is a ZL1 Camaro is a different breed of Chevy because they are documented by their vin's. I don't add as much value as some others if it has it's orig. engine or not. I would rather have a good color 4 speed with the wrong engine than a column shift auto with it's orig. engine. It apparently does have it's orig. vin tag with orig. rivets so I think it is still a car worth restoring even with all the undisclosed issues.

[Stefano]

Congrats to both the buyer and the seller.

The individuals who tracked and found ZL1 number #61 are here on this site, but do not post often. So if they choose to add or correct any of the info provide , I would defer to their info, as that is where I got it from.

I did not see the physical car itself, in person. I was contacted when the car was “found” many years ago. It had owner and racing history and only the public riveted vin. No trim tag and no secondary VINs. The complete firewall had been cut out.

As far as establishing a body number, it would be relatively easy to guess based on the tags of other ZL1s as well as the existing CRG data base, if someone had access to that info.

The original engine was not with the car when found it was purportedly added / reunited during the restoration.

[William]

The highest verified ZL-1 body number is on #60; #326262. They just used the next higher number. VIN tag looked fine to me.

It was definitely Fathom green, lots of original paint found during the resto. Was not built with D80. Lid flunked the close test, both rods were the same size.

As for the engine, all lots are sold as described by their consignor. The block has a matching VIN. The car got a lot of attention and attracted strong bidding. The resto is over 15 years old and looked great.

Have had a few questions about ZL-1 #68, owned by Craig Jackson since the '80s. Saw him in the main exhibit hall Friday morning and asked him about it. Couldn't have been nicer. Pulled out his phone, showed me pics of the restoration and the docs. He mentioned the controversy over its original straight-neck radiator. Told him it is unusual but there are a very few other COPOs with one, including a car within a day or so of his.