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I have PHS paperwork on one of my cars that show it being delivered to dealer code "992".

It shows billing to "307 992".

Does anyone have these codes? Thanks, Ed
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:23 PM
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Here's the Poncho Dealer Code/Zone search site I use..
Scroll to the lower area to search...it's free too!.

http://www.wallaceracing.com/dealer-search.htm

Since 307 is a wonky Zone # using the 992 Dealer # only first results in a few hits in NC and OK?.
Also Zone # 07 Dealer # 099 Jim Causley Pontiac Detroit MI is the closest I see?.

Knowing you Dealer name would obviously help but if you don't, play around looking for Dealer codes w/ part of the # also using Zone # 07, 30, 37 or whatever and see what you can come up w/?.

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Ed...I've done a little research with these in the past.

<u>3</u> <u>07</u> <u>992</u>
3 is the Pontiac Dealer Region code.Not all Pontiac papers reflect this.
07 is the state Zone code...Michigan.
992 is the Dealer code...Your dealer number isn't showing up on the lists yet.
http://www.ultimategto.com/art18.htm
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Rick/Pete:

Thanks for the help. The PHS says that the car was delivered to Pontiac Motor Division and not a specific dealer. I'm hoping that it's a Brass Hat car. What do you guys think?

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Rick/Pete:

Thanks for the help. The PHS says that the car was delivered to Pontiac Motor Division and not a specific dealer. I'm hoping that it's a Brass Hat car. What do you guys think?

Ed

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Considering what PHS has told you, back to your wonky #'s...using the info from both the sources Rick and I laid on you note many Zone #'s 35 &amp; higher are Special and Export #'s also #'s that are close like Zone # 35-997 may be Pontiac Engineering also Zone # 99 may indicate Pontiac Racing or another Special Zone?.

Another idea is giving George Zapora of GM Canada Vintage services a call and running the #'s against what he may have on file?.
He's a really great guy also a member here we wish would show up more often!.

george.zapora@cc.gmcanada.com

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992 is a Zone Inventory car. Many Pontiacs were built according to an order generated by PMD specs, then shipped to a specific zone storage lot, where a dealer could purchase the car straight from that inventory. Once the dealer purchased the car, it would be invoiced to them on that date.

If you have the PHS, in the upper right corner there should be a 3 character code, and my guess is that the code will be "PZA" or similar.

What kind of Pontiac is it, and are there a lot of options?


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That sounds accurate.
If you look at all the dealer 900 series numbers in the link I posted,they appear to be Pontiac holding areas.
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That's interesting also jives w/ the note on the bottom of the link Rick posted..

"...Pontiac produced numerous builds for Zone Stock, cars that were shipped to Storage Lots within each Zone for subsequent sale to a retail Dealer on a first come, first served basis. These cars sat unused for days, weeks, even months before purchase by a Dealer. Not to be confused with Company Cars that also came thru the Zone but were used by Zone employees and later sold at steep discount to a Dealer. These Zone Storage Lots were always identified by a "99*" code as the "Dealer No.". There were likely multiple locations in each Zone..."

So the result of Ed's #'s indicate it was originally shipped to Zone # 07 Michigan # 992 Holding lot then most likely purchased by a dealer who's #'s wouldn't be noted on the original window sticker and any in car build sheets or even listed in the files PHS uses but would be on dealer generated paperwork and POP only?.

Anyone know if Chevy and the rest of the GM divisions used this 99 # system or what they did use if different?.


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My car was shipped to 307 992 and billed to 07 992. So, I'm assuming it wasn't bought by a dealer.
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Mike:

I sent you a PM. Ed
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