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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:18 AM
This has got to be one of the nicest 68 GTO Convertibles in Existence... This restored car drives as well today as the day it left the dealer (Phil Bachman Pontiac-Cad Inc in Greeneville, TN) in 1968. This would be a "Top Shelf" car in any Pontiac enthusiasts collection. This car has tons of Original patina that cannot be reproduced ever again...

This GTO is mostly a extremely well-kep survivor and appears as a restored car, but in fact it is not... Numbers Matching with 51k Original Miles, however as with most 40+ year old cars, the mileage is undocumented, but the cars condition speaks for itself ten fold...Whether it is Driver Quality that you want, or Show Quality that you want!!!

The Solar Red Paint is almost perfect as is free of any major defects... While not the Original Color, the change was done properly and jammed in and blown in where necesary and appears as a factory Solar Red car... It has ALL the Original Sheet Metal, Floors, Quarters, Endura Bumper and even the chrome on rear bumper is original. The moldings, emblems and weatherstrip and all other chrome/stainless are original and free of any dents or major flaws...

The interior is mostly original and in excellent shape right down to the famed "his and hers" shifter... All gauges, switches, etc. are working properly.

The 400ci engine and M40 Turbo 400 transmission are in excellent "drive every day" condition... They both appear to have never been apart, the trans still has the Hydromatic tag on the side. The carb. and distributor (HEI) have been changed at some point to keep the car reliable enough to drive when you want to...Still has most of the original paint/finishes on most of the underhood components including the air cleaner itself and chrome lid...The "WG" 3.36 rear axle is also original... Mechanically, the car drives out great (even with bias ply's). It idles smooth (stock) and does not overheat or have any other problems associated with driving a 40 year old car daily...This car promises lots of worry-free warm summer night cruising with the top down!!!

The undercarriage still has the original semi-gloss Black EDP primer applied to the underbody at GM in 1968...Only the frame, rear axle and other suspension components were detailed back to concours condition...Many of the original inspection marks were still visible, and replicated...No Books or restoration guides needed...Still has most of its original exhaust even. Only the mufflers were changed out to Flowmasters (for sound) but still retains it original hangers! A new gas tank was installed and "US steel" logo re-applied in the exact position as the original one (which was still visible) I also recovered a perfect condition build sheet that was still on top of the Original Tank! The driveshaft was preserved and its original stripes are still visible...Great lengths were taken to assure originality of this car and it shows. Any Pontiac purist would fall in love with this car.

As with any top shelf car these days, pulletproof documentation is a MUST... This car still retains its ORIGINAL window sticker (not a repro from PHS), and a fully ledgable buildsheet just recovered on top of tank in 2008. So what more would you need? This is one of the finest GTO's available today...

$55,000 OBO

Car is located in Princeton, TX and can be viewed at anytime..
Call Rick :
972-658-5561
[email protected]

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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:18 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:20 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:21 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:23 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:32 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:34 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:35 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:35 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:39 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:44 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:47 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:48 AM
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LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:48 AM
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GTO_DON
10-08-2008, 04:40 PM
Very nice car but its not a survivor by any means. JMHO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

ORIGLS6
10-08-2008, 05:26 PM
I guess it depends on how you view things. Sounds to me like it has survived quite a bit! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

GTO_DON
10-08-2008, 06:03 PM
Everybody these days uses the word survivor way too freely. Like I said with a color change and the carb and distributor missing and the car detailed thruout I think the word survivor should not be used. The z16 in the other thread,Thats a true survivor car. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

csx289
10-08-2008, 07:00 PM
I agree, "survivor" has become the "kleenex" of the collector car world. Not all tissue is Kleenex http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

This is the reason why Bloomington Gold is trying to raise awareness of what a Survivor really is. And it is not a car that has been fluffed and/or seen substansial restoration.

Just my random thoughts on the subject, not criticizing this GTO other than IMHO it is certainly not a "survivor"

Colin

mmcporter
10-08-2008, 07:16 PM
I agree with Don and Colin have said. This is a really nice GTO that I would love to own, but when you see: "This restored car drives as well today as the day it left the dealer" you know it's not a 'survivor' in the spirit of the term...it's been given what some call a "sympathetic restoration"...not fully restored, but no longer a 'survivor'. Very very nice car regardless of whether it's a 'survivor', fully restored or somewhere in between.

csx289
10-08-2008, 07:43 PM
More on the subject:

http://colinsclassicauto.com/news.php?story=30

Jim Ferron
10-08-2008, 08:21 PM
Gotta be honest..as the owner of a true survivor...I hate it when the word is bastardized..
nice looking RESTORED car though...

LT12NV
10-08-2008, 08:59 PM
I agree mostly whats been said here, the term survivor has been thrown around way too loosely the last 3-5 years..

I was just very limited on what I could I put in the subject line here, and figured that SOMEWHAT described this car, I put it in "quotes" as to not assume this is a true survivor my any means..

If I were a Bloomington Gold Judge, I would have a hard time giving a survivor award to a car that does not have original paint like this one, so hence I agree, this car really is only a "lite" survivior even if that...I will edit the subject line if I can..

LT12NV
10-08-2008, 09:02 PM
I guess I missed my chance the edit the original subject line, maybe a moderator can do it?

Stuart Adams
10-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Got to be a better word than "Survivor." To vague, a survivor is something that is still living or around, doesn't say anything about what shape its in or if its been restored. If we come up with better terms for these classes then it will be misrepresented less. This car is a classic example, it has survived but been fluffed way too much for some to be called a survivor.

Like Colins awesome BOSS for sale, small touch up paint area and rebuilt motor. To me its an awesome survivor with a little makeup/powdering done.

Woj
10-09-2008, 05:01 AM
Yep, this car survived the crusher, but that is it. It is a very nice car, but the word survivor does not apply. It should be a "lower-mileage restored car" in the description. Sorry to offend the owner, but once you do this much work to a car, the survivor status no longer applies.

Phil Woj.

Smokey
10-09-2008, 07:32 PM
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Gotta be honest..as the owner of a true survivor...I hate it when the word is bastardized..
nice looking RESTORED car though...

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Ditto- but I think the word with restored is stretching it too. Nice driver- yes.

Its just like 70% of the shows we go to these days, I want to hand out the "Sanding Block Award" or better yet- "3M Best of Best Spit Shiners"

If one would list a car for 55k, wouldn't one think they would polish the swirls glare marks out of the side- or is that poor lighting and photo work?

allcamaro
10-09-2008, 08:36 PM
WOW Smokey thats a little harsh dont you think??

LT12NV
10-10-2008, 08:16 AM
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Gotta be honest..as the owner of a true survivor...I hate it when the word is bastardized..
nice looking RESTORED car though...

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Ditto- but I think the word with restored is stretching it too. Nice driver- yes.

Its just like 70% of the shows we go to these days, I want to hand out the "Sanding Block Award" or better yet- "3M Best of Best Spit Shiners"

If one would list a car for 55k, wouldn't one think they would polish the swirls glare marks out of the side- or is that poor lighting and photo work?

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It doesn't have any swirls? Its got nice paint...Nicer than ANYTHING you own for SURE..