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Mr70
03-17-2011, 04:13 PM
If you grossly over inflate your shipping charges,your days are numbered.Next month,eBay will be charging the FVF,(final value fee),on the ENTIRE payment YOU charge the buyer including shipping.So if you sell a part for $200 and it costs $200 to ship it,ebay will double your sellers FVF fee from what it used to be.
They say they are doing this to keep sellers more honest with shipping/handling charges.

69 Post Sedan
03-17-2011, 04:30 PM
There are stores selling items that are worth $50 and they sell it for $.01 but charge $50 shipping.

Kurt

al8apex
03-17-2011, 04:50 PM
they have been allowing buyers to report sellers with grossly high shipping and handling fees for several years now. Part of the seller's "dashboard" score is exactly that.

One of the things I don't like is they (ebay) says the sellers have to keep reasonable shipping fees yet the seller gets docked 3% for the shipping amount when the buyer uses PayPal (~ 95% of the buyers). How can you keep the shipping "reasonable" when they are skimming 3%?

And to top that, for 2011 PayPal will begin reporting (1099) payments received into accounts of those users who receive more than $20,000 and more than 200 payments.

Apparently the IRS accepted public comments and has now made its final rule - it will stick to requiring that the "gross amount" be reported. The proposed regulations defined gross amount as the total dollar amount of aggregate reportable payment transactions for each participating payee without regard to any adjustments for credits, cash equivalents, discount amounts, fees, refunded amounts, or any other amounts.

The final rule states, "Several commenters suggested defining "gross amount" as net sales, taking into account credit transactions, chargebacks and other adjustments, on the ground that gross amount is not a true indicator of revenue." Nevertheless, the IRS will require payment services to report the gross amount.

Yeah, double jeopardy ...

resto4u
03-17-2011, 07:46 PM
This is bs, there automatic shipping calculator is inacurate. The amount is never the same at the post office. And if you buy at an online retailer, they charge shipping and handling. As a non-business seller, i don't always have the right size box or supplies. My time has a price. Another case of ebay bending the sell over with a rubber glove. If the shipping costs are upfront with the buyer, they don't have to buy if they don't like the shipping charges.

Jim Ferron
03-17-2011, 08:20 PM
No they aren't doing this to keep seller from overcharging, they are doing this to make more money.

99.99% Of ebay sellers are good people just trying to make a buck...the vast majority of them [us] sell items at profit margins no store could ever match [15% or less] Ebay whacks you pretty close to 10% on everything and them Pay Pay [ebay's pay pal] whacks you again.

Did you also know that ebay will no longer let you post in the ad, that you will accept Money Orders? Was that protect against M.O. fraud or basically just insure you have to pay thru pay pal for a fee [to the seller]


In the last week i purchased a brand new set [in the box] of Toyota Carpets for $5 dollars...that's right FIVE dollars...How much money did that porr SOB make?

This morning I bought a TPMS re-set tool for HALF of what my parts store wanted [for the same p/n.]

.how much could the guy have possibly made? And then ebay/paypal takes nearly 15%...Geez they make more profit that the seller!
I've stopped selling most stuff on ebay because there isn't enough left for me.

69 Post Sedan
03-17-2011, 08:49 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No they aren't doing this to keep seller from overcharging, they are doing this to make more money.</div></div>

That's exactly my point. A seller who sells items cheap but states up front a high shipping cost, makes out because they only pay eBay for the sale of the item and not the shipping.

Jim Ferron
03-17-2011, 10:42 PM
But let me tell you something...when a seller posts something for a RIDICULOUS low price..like a penny or $9.99 and makes it up in shipping, his true motive is to be found first [or at least near the top] when the bidder searches 'lowest price first'

[That's why ebay gives you the option of searching lowest price AND shipping first]


Just my view...

69 Post Sedan
03-17-2011, 10:50 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But let me tell you something...when a seller posts something for a RIDICULOUS low price..like a penny or $9.99 and makes it up in shipping, his true motive is to be found first [or at least near the top] when the bidder searches 'lowest price first'

[That's why ebay gives you the option of searching lowest price AND shipping first]


Just my view... </div></div>

That makes sense.

Kurt <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

njsteve
03-17-2011, 11:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69 Post Sedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are stores selling items that are worth $50 and they sell it for $.01 but charge $50 shipping.

Kurt </div></div>

Exactly!

Thats why I have been boycotting Classic Industries for years now. You'd order a postage stamp sized, $100 emblem and they would charge you $25 shipping because their non-negotiable rule is a price-based shipping charge.

Jim Ferron
03-18-2011, 10:12 PM
A deal should be judged on TOTAL price...if it works for you buy it...I couldn't give a hoot on how the seller came to that figure. And NOBODY should be asked to sell something for less than they want for it.

al8apex
03-19-2011, 12:45 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A deal should be judged on TOTAL price...if it works for you buy it...I couldn't give a hoot on how the seller came to that figure. And NOBODY should be asked to sell something for less than they want for it. </div></div>

I agree, when I buy toner cartridges, I KNOW some are padding the s&amp;h number but have a lower &quot;selling price&quot;. I am smart enough to figure out all that matters to ME is the TOTAL price and i buy accordingly. If I wanted something that was worth $50 and only had to pay 1 penny to ship it, i think I would pay the $50.01 regardless of which order the shipping or the purchase price was listed. $50.01 beats a $50 purchase then adding for higher shipping anyday

Bill Pritchard
03-19-2011, 05:09 AM
As far as I'm concerned, any more, eBay is a good place to buy stuff but not a good place to sell.

Enoch
03-21-2011, 06:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As far as I'm concerned, any more, eBay is a good place to buy stuff but not a good place to sell. </div></div>

Bil you nailed it!! This is just BS one more thing that ebay is doing to get a handle on a few bad apples being dishonest with thier listing and the good sellers pay the concequenses. Just like not being able to leave negative feedback as a seller. I sell thousands of items a year on ebay and am just bout done. I will sell on my own site and let ebay squeeze the last dime out of the rest of the sellers!!

Rich

XXXGoldL34M20
03-22-2011, 03:02 AM
Ebay is not doing absolutely nothing to make it easier for sellers.
It seems they only care about the buyer's,when they tend to forget that without sellers they do not make nothing.
Then they wonder why there numbers are down.
I hope one day they choke on there double greedy fees.