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black69
01-09-2012, 10:35 PM
What would the top end value of a factory painted plum crazy purple chevelle be? I saw the car up close and personal, original paint still on it.

$50K at best? its not an LS6. It is a 4 spd. I would need to know the best case value as its a long way from being close to a running car.

yes it exists, and its documented on buildsheet (special paint, mopar color code, big block, cowl induction, SS, - - on cowl tag).

ohhawk
01-09-2012, 11:46 PM
Reminds a bit of the Carolina Blue and S. Carolina Tri-Centennial Gold versions of which there are very few. The times I've seen these come up for sale they really haven't produced prices any higher than any other color and oftentimes less as these colors seem to appeal to fewer. I've never heard of a documented purple one so maybe there is some pull for a potential one of a kind for the right collector but I think the overall quality of the car coupled with documentation are still the drivers for price on this year/model.

I know there have been a few documented Yellow ones along with Citrus Green, Orange, and Lemans Blue but don't have any knowledge of what some of these may have sold for. You've got an interesting find, that's for sure.

.....my two cents.

Bill Pritchard
01-10-2012, 01:17 AM
My 2 cents....even if it were legitimately well documented as original, I wouldn't want it at all, just due to all the know-it-alls that would come up to you at every cruise night, car show, and what-not telling you that there's no such thing and then questioning everything else on the car.

mockingbird812
01-10-2012, 02:09 AM
What year, engine, options, owner History.....

m22mike
01-10-2012, 02:10 AM
I agree, OK color on a VW Beatle, but not a Chevelle.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/sick.gif

olredalert
01-10-2012, 02:12 AM
----Black,,,It seems as though you are saying its a 70. If it is, did it have stripes??? and if it had stripes, what color were they??? Inquiring minds want to know. Oh,,,any pics???........Bill S

427TJ
01-10-2012, 02:58 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 2 cents....even if it were legitimately well documented as original, I wouldn't want it at all, just due to all the know-it-alls that would come up to you at every cruise night, car show, and what-not telling you that there's no such thing and then questioning everything else on the car. </div></div>

Well said. If people spent as much time on things that really matter in life as they spend on knowing (and criticizing) the minute details of someone's car the world would be a thousand times better off. (Sounds like an interesting car though.)

mockingbird812
01-10-2012, 03:13 AM
But think of the satisfaction when you pull out the buildsheet and show them the proof!

black69
01-10-2012, 03:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Black,,,It seems as though you are saying its a 70. If it is, did it have stripes??? and if it had stripes, what color were they??? Inquiring minds want to know. Oh,,,any pics???........Bill S </div></div>

it is a 70. the stripes are white. I would prefer black. 396. owner history is there. I should have studied the buildsheet more when I was able to see it, but focused on the color (paint code) being on it, which I was skeptical on.
and it had to be a 4spd and cowl induction.

442w30
01-12-2012, 06:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 2 cents....even if it were legitimately well documented as original, I wouldn't want it at all, just due to all the know-it-alls that would come up to you at every cruise night, car show, and what-not telling you that there's no such thing and then questioning everything else on the car. </div></div>

Who cares what they think? Hell, you can have a 100% correct, stock, &quot;normal&quot; Chevelle and you're going to have to deal with &quot;those&quot; people anyway.

For me, it's a no-brainer - how easy is it to find an unusual Chevelle? And how many of them are this unusual?

PS&gt; White stripes all the way!

Fast67VelleN2O
01-12-2012, 12:59 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 2 cents....even if it were legitimately well documented as original, I wouldn't want it at all, just due to all the know-it-alls that would come up to you at every cruise night, car show, and what-not telling you that there's no such thing and then questioning everything else on the car. </div></div>

I like asking the &quot;know it alls&quot; where their car is at? Usually shuts them up pretty quick.

markinnaples
01-12-2012, 03:50 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 2 cents....even if it were legitimately well documented as original, I wouldn't want it at all, just due to all the know-it-alls that would come up to you at every cruise night, car show, and what-not telling you that there's no such thing and then questioning everything else on the car. </div></div>

Who cares what they think? Hell, you can have a 100% correct, stock, &quot;normal&quot; Chevelle and you're going to have to deal with &quot;those&quot; people anyway.

For me, it's a no-brainer - how easy is it to find an unusual Chevelle? And how many of them are this unusual?

PS&gt; White stripes all the way! </div></div>

Couldn't agree more; well stated.

SS4Real
01-12-2012, 04:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would the top end value of a factory painted plum crazy purple chevelle be? $50K at best? </div></div>

That would be my guess. Difficult to say due to the unique color but since the market for that color might be smaller than normal, I would say you are close for a L34 '70 SS396 as you described when completed.

black69
01-12-2012, 06:48 PM
thanks everyone for the input.
would be cool. I doubt you would see another one any time soon.


-bob

markinnaples
01-12-2012, 07:26 PM
pics!?!

Tracker1
01-12-2012, 08:36 PM
I'd love to have it. No stripes please. Boy they did some weird things for customers back then.

black69
01-13-2012, 04:50 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd love to have it. No stripes please. Boy they did some weird things for customers back then. </div></div>

I read about a 70 W30 convert in plum crazy purple from the factory, and from a write up on that car, it was said that some dealers got around an allotment constraint through using the 'color change' trick (that info came from the original dealer that ordered the car).

It is amazing what an extra $50 would get ya back then. Plum crazy puple was the most popular mopar color in 70.

here is something fun to read.


http://wmachineregistry.com/index.php/co...azy-purple.html (http://wmachineregistry.com/index.php/component/content/article/64-1970-oldsmobile-442-w-30-factory-painted-plum-crazy-purple.html)

442w30
01-13-2012, 04:52 PM
That Olds is undocumented, although I believe it to be true.

There's also a documented Stage 1 Gran Sport in Plum Crazy.

However, I do believe the cost to get a special-order color was around $100. They're rare but they were done.

black69
01-13-2012, 05:06 PM
that is true, the w30 was (is) undocumented, other than the original owner saying it was and he was a dealer.

Maybe the good part of that story was to get more 442s at a dealer, you changed the color, so maybe some chevy dealers changed the color to get more SS's. food for thought.

-bob

442w30
01-13-2012, 05:22 PM
I'm not so sure I believe that story, although that's not to say it's not true. I do think since each of GM's brands operated practically as independent companies, it's possible that this story is Olds-specific. Whatever the case, I can think of numerous cars that were ordered with non-RPO colors that had nothing to do with anything other than the owner wanting a color that suited his/her personality, or perhaps for a promotion.

PeteLeathersac
01-13-2012, 05:33 PM
In the 70's I had a factory purple '69 Chevy 1/2 ton also knew of a '70 the same then plus have seen what appear to be more since too..
Didn't know enough to note or save build info then and no idea if it was a Mopar color or not?.
If someone w/ Canadian paint books of the era checked it wouldn't be surprising if it's listed w/ truck info perhaps also may be the same color used on original GM purple cars of the same time period?.


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~ Pete

bwag
01-13-2012, 07:31 PM
A lot of cars we ordered during the 60's and 70's at the Chevy and Pontiac dealerships I worked for were Cadillac Firemist colors . One of the colors was a plum or purple with lots of metallic .

black69
01-13-2012, 09:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bwag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A lot of cars we ordered during the 60's and 70's at the Chevy and Pontiac dealerships I worked for were Cadillac Firemist colors . One of the colors was a plum or purple with lots of metallic . </div></div>

that is true, there was a 70 GS buick convert around here in chicago that had the darker plum shade from cadillac (on the build sheet). this 70 chevelle has the mopar paint code actually on the buildsheet.

Dog427435
03-03-2012, 09:45 AM
This picture was taken in '69 @ Islip Speedway


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/dog427435/1218%20ashbridge/R441p-1.jpg

black69
03-03-2012, 03:03 PM
very cool!

njsteve
03-03-2012, 03:33 PM
The strange thing on that paint code is that FC7 (Plum Crazy/In Violet) was a 1970 Chrysler color and wouldn't have been available until early September 1969 when the new cars came out.

Were they still building 1969 Chevelles at that time? Which makes me think that purple on the Chevelle is a GM truck or Cadillac color?

Dave Rifkin
03-03-2012, 04:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The strange thing on that paint code is that FC7 (Plum Crazy/In Violet) was a 1970 Chrysler color and wouldn't have been available until early September 1969 when the new cars came out.

Were they still building 1969 Chevelles at that time? Which makes me think that purple on the Chevelle is a GM truck or Cadillac color? </div></div>

Hard to get a real good look but, doesn't that Mustang hardtop in that picture look like a 1970 model? If it is that might explain how he was able to get the Chevelle painted in that shade of purple.

black69
03-03-2012, 05:32 PM
don't be so sure they did not have plum crazy purple in 69. I just looked at a 69 GTS 383 that is one of 9 painted in hemi orange. that blew me away. I was sure hemi orange did not come out until the 70 model year. I was wrong (atleast on hemi orange).

It is possible mother mopar was getting some early trials of 70 colors, on 69 models.

mockingbird812
03-03-2012, 05:34 PM
H. Orange/Torred was available on the 69.5 lift off hood S.bees/Roadrunners

njsteve
03-03-2012, 05:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">H. Orange/Torred was available om the 69.5 lift off hood Roadrunners/S.bees </div></div>

Yes, orange was available in late 69 in various forms. As far as I know Plum Crazy/In Violet was not.

L78M22Rag
03-03-2012, 08:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 2 cents....even if it were legitimately well documented as original, I wouldn't want it at all, just due to all the know-it-alls that would come up to you at every cruise night, car show, and what-not telling you that there's no such thing and then questioning everything else on the car. </div></div>

Who cares what they think? Hell, you can have a 100% correct, stock, &quot;normal&quot; Chevelle and you're going to have to deal with &quot;those&quot; people anyway.

For me, it's a no-brainer - how easy is it to find an unusual Chevelle? And how many of them are this unusual?

PS&gt; White stripes all the way! </div></div>

Well said.

RAIIIT/A
03-03-2012, 08:34 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The strange thing on that paint code is that FC7 (Plum Crazy/In Violet) was a 1970 Chrysler color and wouldn't have been available until early September 1969 when the new cars came out.

Were they still building 1969 Chevelles at that time? Which makes me think that purple on the Chevelle is a GM truck or Cadillac color? </div></div>

Hard to get a real good look but, doesn't that Mustang hardtop in that picture look like a 1970 model? If it is that might explain how he was able to get the Chevelle painted in that shade of purple. </div></div>

Looks like a '69 to me.

442w30
03-03-2012, 10:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">don't be so sure they did not have plum crazy purple in 69. I just looked at a 69 GTS 383 that is one of 9 painted in hemi orange. that blew me away. I was sure hemi orange did not come out until the 70 model year. I was wrong (atleast on hemi orange).
</div></div>

A few points on this:

1. Plum Crazy indeed was a '70-71 color.

2. Production figures for 1969 colors are not available, so the &quot;1 of 9&quot; thing is BS.

3. Hemi Orange came out in 1969 and is quite common on A12 cars.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
It is possible mother mopar was getting some early trials of 70 colors, on 69 models. </div></div>

Why would they need a trial?

Tracker1
12-10-2013, 11:57 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-442-W...=US_Cars_Trucks (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-442-W30-1970-oldsmobile-442-w-30-plum-crazy-convertible-unfinished-restoration-/301037281743?forcerrptr=true&amp;hash=item46173861cf&amp;i tem=301037281743&amp;pt=US_Cars_Trucks)

ZiggyL78
12-12-2013, 02:42 AM
and that guy in the pic has GenV Beattle boots which did not come out till late 72;)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The strange thing on that paint code is that FC7 (Plum Crazy/In Violet) was a 1970 Chrysler color and wouldn't have been available until early September 1969 when the new cars came out.

Were they still building 1969 Chevelles at that time? Which makes me think that purple on the Chevelle is a GM truck or Cadillac color? </div></div>

Hard to get a real good look but, doesn't that Mustang hardtop in that picture look like a 1970 model? If it is that might explain how he was able to get the Chevelle painted in that shade of purple. </div></div>

black69
12-12-2013, 03:45 PM
I do think the plum crazy color is possible on late production 69 camaros, as the 70 camaro production was delayed.

I myself would not believe plum crazy purple would be on a 69 chevelle, if chevelle production ended in july-august, like most cars.

PeteLeathersac
12-12-2013, 04:32 PM
As in my previous post, I used to own a factory purple '69 Chevy truck also knew of a '70 the same color.
Pretty sure they were a Canada only thing on the trucks but whatever paint they had may've been the same used on other factory purple 69/70 GM products?
Picture below looks the same as the one I had, pic scooped from pg.5 of this link... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=301319
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~ Pete

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/12/full-2506-8534-chev69truckfactorypurple.jpg