Brents 1969 Hugger Orange Copo Found ? [Archive]

PeteLeathersac

02-06-2012, 03:45 PM

BIG congrats!!!
HO is icing!.

Resto or sale, how can it get any more beautiful than as this car now sits w/ exposed details/heater box off/sanded stampings etc?.
Especially considering situations of late, has the time come where it's best to do a tidy job exposing details and leave critical areas 'as uncovered' aside from maybe a blast of clear where necessary?.

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~ Pete

brent396

02-06-2012, 11:17 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120206_130948.jpg

brent396

02-06-2012, 11:19 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120206_131127.jpg

bergy

02-06-2012, 11:35 PM

Did you get the car certified Brent? It's worth the $$ before you start dismantling it. Without ownership history from new - I'd get all of the expert documentation that you can get. Everything looks great so far, but after resto most of the unaltered evidence is gone. Just a suggestion.

brent396

02-06-2012, 11:37 PM

Thanks Guys for the good words and emails any info on the body numbers would be a big help.Who doing the certified <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Schonyenko2

02-06-2012, 11:53 PM

Brent, check your PMs.

brent396

02-06-2012, 11:59 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120205_162137.jpg

brent396

02-07-2012, 12:00 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120205_162105.jpg

NovaMob03

02-07-2012, 02:49 AM

looks like our car's were twins, Brent <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

http://i41.tinypic.com/jzh5l4.jpg

brent396

02-07-2012, 03:01 AM

Cool pic

Xplantdad

02-07-2012, 05:42 AM

Congrats Brent! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Plowman

02-07-2012, 07:05 AM

That's looking cool.

Kurt S

02-08-2012, 08:11 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">UY coded radiators were used on all 396cid. 325hp,350hp & 375hp M/T equipped Camaros,so don't go by just that. </div></div>
Nope, UY is a 4 core, only COPO's and 396's w/ AC. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

Nothing close to that body #.

brent396

02-08-2012, 10:42 AM

Well it doesn't have AC thanks kurt

brent396

02-08-2012, 11:37 AM

I know every thing iam showing here can be bought or done to to look like a COPO but what i havent told you which doesnt prove anything .I know the people that have owned it and iam back to around 73 or 74 era to present it was a local car to me . It was sitting in a barn witch the guy wasnt selling it and i went to him from word of mouth.He didnt have a clue to what the tell tail signs were to make a COPO people told him over the years it mite have been .To Him it was a old race car. He bought it in 81 it was a race car then.The guy who bought it in 73 74 time when i talked to him he had no clue what a copo was he told me he just wanted a 69 camaro to race . The car was painted black with a 427 tunnel ram and a grumpy lump scoop 12 bolt and a m22 cragars and Mh race masters on the back with a lakewood bar going 10 30s and wasnt tub yet it was off the road by then being raced he tub it OLD SCHOOL if that what you called he did to it .I saw pics from him to show this stuff trying to get copys still at the end of the day doesnt prove a thing .

68z28kk

02-08-2012, 02:46 PM

My non A/C 325 horse 4 speed 69 Camaro has the UY radiator in it. It is L.A. built and sold new in Arizona. I assumed it was ordered with the heavy duty cooling option. The UY code is on the build sheet that I removed from the gas tank in about 1993. Clint

brent396

02-08-2012, 06:07 PM

]Thanks for the info. BBC and cowl induction in a x44=what size motor and HP could you get?

brent396

02-09-2012, 12:52 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120208_184739.jpg

brent396

02-09-2012, 12:53 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120208_184729.jpg

brent396

02-09-2012, 12:54 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120208_184716.jpg

brent396

02-09-2012, 01:48 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120208_185731.jpg

brent396

02-09-2012, 01:49 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120208_185752.jpg

brent396

02-09-2012, 01:50 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120208_185629.jpg

brent396

02-09-2012, 01:50 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120208_185640.jpg

Schonyenko2

02-09-2012, 02:02 AM

Looks like a well fed group, and someones gettin an ass chewin.
"Who forgot to tighten down the valve cover. Now we got oil all over the damn motor". Or something along that line.

02-09-2012, 07:48 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: brent396</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks guys for the great word. Does anyone have a list of <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gifbody numbers for the copos is this one falling in the order. I think the car was from maryland i got owner history to 73 and it was a local drag car then </div></div>

I have a 05C copo that has a body number of 293349. 415 units away from your car. John

brent396

02-09-2012, 11:02 AM

Thanks for the info john .How close do the body numbers run <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

brent396

02-09-2012, 11:14 AM

I know this is another long shot but the car has the orginal fenders on it. I see orange paint still on them not saying when it was new they where change but the car was black by 73 did X44 cars have motor size on the front of the marker lights thease fenders have not been drilled yet thanks to elonblock pointing that out to me.T <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gifhe fenders should have build weeks stamped on them

PeteLeathersac

02-09-2012, 03:20 PM

Hasn't factory grease pencil 427 markings been found written on the inside of some known 9561 original front fenders too?.

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~ Pete

Mr70

02-09-2012, 06:01 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurt S</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">UY coded radiators were used on all 396cid. 325hp,350hp & 375hp M/T equipped Camaros,so don't go by just that. </div></div>
Nope, UY is a 4 core, only COPO's and 396's w/ AC. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

Nothing close to that body #. </div></div>

Yes Kurts' right,thought I typed that originally.
That should've read..
"UY coded radiators were used on all 396cid. 325hp,350hp & 375hp M/T equipped Camaros,<span style="text-decoration: underline">if A/C or HDuty cooling was ordered,</span>so don't go by just that."

That's a cool looking camaro,with some great possble potential to be even more.

brent396

02-09-2012, 09:08 PM

Thanks for all the help guys .Maybe someone here can answer this question the car is a X44 standard Camaro what size motors could you get in them.Could you get a 396 in them.

Carleen

02-09-2012, 10:06 PM

No 396 in a X44 Car.
Does it still have the 427 Engine?
Congratulations

brent396

02-10-2012, 05:47 AM

No 427 yet still diging info.Pete someone ratel can some black inside the fenders ill be carful when i tear it down. Where is the markings located at thanks for the info Brent <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

m22mike

02-10-2012, 02:33 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hasn't factory grease pencil 427 markings been found written on the inside of some known 9561 original front fenders too?.

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~ Pete
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/copo060.jpg

Mr70

02-10-2012, 03:54 PM

Nick Morocco's old Yenko chevelle has "427" grease penciled on the grille valiance as well.

02-12-2012, 05:35 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: brent396</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the info john .How close do the body numbers run <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif </div></div>

Did some digging and found an old thread regarding body numbers..

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=145862&page=1

camaromb

02-12-2012, 06:09 PM

A few more Copo Camaro body numbers with 292xxx
292731, 292749, 292774, 29277, 292787, 292800, 292815, 292833. Quite a few Copo Camaros built during 05A.

brent396

02-12-2012, 07:58 PM

Thanks alot guys for the info keeps it coming somebody should have a list to the 69 copo cars. My body number is 292934 close to the 292833 . I <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gifts a 101 off is that good or bad

m22mike

02-13-2012, 03:51 AM

Mark, there were ALLOT of Camars built during 05A, those week #'s were not re set like clock work. I think I read 05A was way more than 7 days ?

Brent
Interesting that my black car is BDY 322433 and my vin# is only 27 after yours, most likely built very close together on the same shift.
Also note your bdy # 292934 is quit a bit lower than mine.
only thing that means is your body shell may have spent some time in the body bank with others waiting for all the good stuff to show up, and/or they were batched with other COPO's

COPO_Anders

02-13-2012, 08:37 AM

Does it have the dual exhaust hanger plate in the left rear wheelhousing ?

I read that it was minitubbed but it didn´t get into my head !

Kurt S

02-13-2012, 05:23 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m22mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Interesting that my black car is BDY 322433 and my vin# is only 27 after yours, most likely built very close together on the same shift.
Also note your bdy # 292934 is quit a bit lower than mine.
only thing that means is your body shell may have spent some time in the body bank with others waiting for all the good stuff to show up, and/or they were batched with other COPO's
</div></div>
They were just a few cars apart on the line.
The low body # means the order was accepted but didn't get scheduled (and hence built) until several weeks later.

m22mike

02-13-2012, 08:22 PM

Kurt
What do you know about the 05A run, more that a 7 day period ?
Over the years it seems like many of the Camaro's I see are 05A built.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

69L78

02-13-2012, 09:44 PM

I don't mean to high jack Brent's thread....I see that Brent's BDY 322433 is even lower than my 04L tag on my Z, has anyone come up with a good explanation of the O4L?

m22mike

02-14-2012, 12:39 AM

04L
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2442.0

supercomp 8.90

02-14-2012, 02:03 AM

whats the date on the 12 bolt? also check to see if the front of the pass axle tube has any of the codes, they may have been cut off when it was narrowed?

jannes_z-28

02-14-2012, 08:47 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m22mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kurt
What do you know about the 05A run, more that a 7 day period ?
Over the years it seems like many of the Camaro's I see are 05A built.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif </div></div>

In may they reconfigured the Norwood plant for the Firebird production that started in the second half of May.

That is also the reason for the introduction of the D80 code on the trimtags, to separate the trunklids due to different holes for the spoilers. D80 made sure that a Camaro got a Camaro trunklid.

BTW there are no (or very few) 05B cars. And that might be the reason we see so many 05A cars.

Jan

brent396

02-14-2012, 12:16 PM

The rear is not orginal to the car .When i talked to the owner who had it in 78 he said he pulled the 12bolt out and tub it and put a dana in it. How does it work. My body number seems very early before the build date on the trim tag. By looking at other trim tags .Is it because it was order early to be built then wait for copo parts then go on the line to be done.If so my x44 plain jane car didnt even come with a radio. It was as base it could get so i dont know why it would be waiting for anything .I know Mike talked about it because of his car body number is diffrent than mine .Does this put the nail in the coffin for being a copo car

m22mike

02-14-2012, 02:40 PM

Brent
Again, it is very common to see a larger spread in BDY #" vs Vin#'s when compared to other COPO Camaros. It was common practice to hold a batch of these special cars in the body bank untill all the special components were on hand to run these cars with any hold up in production.
They may have been waiting on BE's, double COPO stuff, or even built up 427's ?? These were little used items when comapred to the rest of the Camaro production.
If you study the spread between BDY#'s and Vin#'s on your average 6 cyl/ and or low HP V8 cars, which there were hundreds built each day, there is not that large of a diff in the spread of the two #'s. Basically because the components to built these cars were more common to these basic drivers and the inventory levels were high enough based on the larger number of orders place by dealers to keep the lines running on schedule.

brent396

02-14-2012, 05:53 PM

Thanks Mike <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

COPO_Anders

02-14-2012, 06:29 PM

When I had bought my COPO years ago someone told me that the X44D80 combination on the trimtag was a good indicator (not proof) of a 427 Camaro, just because so few base-cars were ordered with the rear spoiler.
If your trunklid is original to the car (check the datecode on it and if it has the right color underneath)and if the spoiler was put on at the factory (check the holes), then that would be a good indicator of 427 car. Especially combined with the hole in the firewall for the wiring to a Special Ducted Hood.
But still not proof of course.

William

02-14-2012, 06:34 PM

Once again, the body number has NOTHING to do with production scheduling. It was generated when the dealer order was accepted by Central Office.

Fisher Body released orders [generating the tag] as instructed by Chevrolet Production Control. It is a fundamental production control practice to material assure any order before releasing it. There is no way Chevrolet would have instructed Fisher to release COPO orders for production if it did not have the parts to complete them. Those orders would not be released to Fisher until ALL components were available.

The body bank was a queue to arrange them by option content for line balancing-not a place to store orders that could not be built.

There is wide variation in body number relative to VIN-Van Nuys Camaro assembly was on the same system. A typical production week at Norwood was 4,560 cars. The spread from the highest to the lowest body number for any VIN range is commonly many times that number. There were around 7,000 VINs with 04L/05A tags at Norwood but the body number range is over 47,000.

Another production control practice is to never starve the line. Fisher often released more orders than could be built in any given week. That's why some weeks are missing. ZL-1s #3-#39 all have 02D tags but were built the first two weeks of March.

http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml

brent396

02-14-2012, 06:39 PM

Non spoiler car trunk springs the same size. Did you sell you're car as a Copo car. Who certified yours thanks Brent

COPO_Anders

02-14-2012, 06:53 PM

I sold mine as a COPO based on the original engine in it. Plus original Special Ducted Hood, untouched firewall, dual exhaust hanger plate in the left rear wheelhousing, X44D80 with different size springs to the original trunklid. And the BE-rearend had a builddate close to the day the car was built.
I really don´t think it would pay off to hire someone to authenticate it since all the guys on this board does it for free !

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Carleen

02-15-2012, 12:46 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120208_184716.jpg

No spoiler in this picture, maybe its better to look at the subframe after the hole for front spoiler.

Carleen

02-15-2012, 10:13 PM

From CRG

The COPO 9560/9561 cars started with a SS396 big-block chassis that included:
• Rear Brake Proportioning Valve
• Big Block Heater Core
• Big Block Fuel Line
The price of the COPO 9560/9561 High Performance Units included the following: • Either ZL1 (9560) or L72 (9561) engine
• Dual exhaust (both standard N10 and NC8 chambered have been noted)
• ZL2 cowl induction hood
• Transistorized ignition (9560 only)
• HD (curved-neck) 4-row core 23" radiator (most)
• F62 HD front springs
• G32 HD rear five-leaf springs
• HD version of the 4.10 or 4.56 ratio 8.875-inch 12-bolt rear axle

• G80 positraction
To this was added the following mandatory equipment: • J52 Power Front Disc Brakes
• Either Muncie M21 or M22 4-speeds, or THM400 automatic
• PL5 F70x14 white letter tires on 14x7 wheels (or equivalent substitute option)

William

02-16-2012, 02:27 AM

Just to tune this up a bit:

A few COPOs were built with the M20 wide-ratio 4-speed.

Virtually all had 4.10:1 BE axles. One is documented as special ordered with COPO 9511 4.56:1. COPOs built through June '69 do not list positration on their docs as it was initially part of the COPO. On later builds G80 & G84 became required options for $56.90 & $2.15 and included HD cooling.

Only COPOs 9560 & 9561 could be ordered with COPO 9737. It included the 140 mph speedo, 15 x 7 rally wheels, HD front stabilizer bar. Around June '69 the price was increased to include a factory tach.

Kurt S

02-17-2012, 06:52 AM

brent396

02-19-2012, 08:25 PM

Found out new info .My car was a Dyno Motion car that ran Super Stock Class when it was new.The shop was located in suitland maryland the car then was hugger Orange and had the name Dyno Motion on the door of the car .It raced on the east coast tracks there was 2 owners one is Jim Deakins he drove the car .Any pictures or info on it let me know thanks Brent <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Plowman

02-20-2012, 02:36 AM

Congratulations Brents

brent396

02-20-2012, 11:38 AM

Thanks paul here is one of Dynamotion vette they work on. My camaro was the shop car for advertising the business . http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/5913050855_medium2.jpg

elonblock

02-20-2012, 12:43 PM

Great pic!

Elon

PeteLeathersac

02-20-2012, 03:59 PM

Cool pic!.
So it's DynaMotion one word w/ an 'a' not Dyno Motion two words w/ an 'o' like previously posted..

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~ Pete

PxTx

02-20-2012, 04:22 PM

http://www.autocross.com/autoc/ejposs.jpg

Seems like they like had their name on a Corvette or two. E.J. Poss mean anything?

brent396

02-21-2012, 01:57 AM

Pete i spelled it wrong i didnt know how they spelled it until i found the pic of the 66 vette. I spoke to his wife today he going to call me back i hope. I <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gifam sure he will have some good info on my camaro .Paul where did you find that pic

brent396

02-21-2012, 01:58 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/5913050852_medium.jpg

PxTx

02-21-2012, 03:45 AM

Just did a search looking for old pics on google images and found this page:

http://www.autocross.com/autoc/fcar23.htm

I really don't know much, but I am looking forward to what you find. An old lettered up picture would be awesome! Good Luck

PeteLeathersac

02-21-2012, 02:52 PM

As Brent noted it's Dyn<span style="text-decoration: underline">a</span>Motion like the 'Vette pics so isn't this Dyn<span style="text-decoration: underline">o</span>Motion group a completely different bunch and only in operation more recently too?.
The way this whole thread and car has progressed so far is very cool and we all look forward to what's uncovered next!.
A picture of the car in DynaMotion paint will be too cool also have those original fenders been off yet?.

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~ Pete

PxTx

02-21-2012, 03:06 PM

Gotcha, looks like Brent found the the same cardomain linke I did.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2366/1102/5913050853_large.jpg

brent396

02-21-2012, 09:05 PM

I talked to glenn smith today he owned the 66 427 vette .He told me that Dynamotion was conected to Motion Performce in Ny they bought all the parts and work with Joe on stuff .He gave me names of owners of the busness They moved to silverspring md they had two shops going the search goes <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif on

PxTx

02-21-2012, 09:16 PM

I find it very interesting that your Copo was a shop car used to advertize Dynamotion and then having a Motion connection.

When do you think they had the car lettered? I'm pretty sure Joel told me he was unaware of the 427 COPO program. Do you think Dymamotion knew and ordered a car and raced it from new?

You said you know the history till 1974. I would lean towards thinking there may have been moe than 1 additional owner fomr 1969 till 1974. I would love to know if how early Dynomotion was involved wiht the car- but probably not as much as you Brent. Good Luck!

brent396

02-21-2012, 10:04 PM

Paul agree as it goes now this is what glenn told me but who really knows can you call joel to find anything out .I think they bought parts from him and i think my car was for Dynamotion shop

brent396

02-21-2012, 10:38 PM

This is what glenn emailed me Dynamotion was also a franchise dealer associated with Motion Performance run by Joel Rosin out of the Chevrolet dealership in Baldwin, NY,

brent396

02-21-2012, 10:45 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/1968-17-InitialopeningsineageIdidforDynamotion.jpg

brent396

02-21-2012, 10:46 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/1968-18-SineageIdidforTracyDynamotion.jpg

brent396

02-21-2012, 10:47 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/Copy2of1969-20A-Dec69-AquascoDragResults-SayingGoodBye.jpg

brent396

02-21-2012, 10:48 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/1969-20A-Dec69-AquascoDragResults-SayingGoodBye.jpg

brent396

02-21-2012, 10:51 PM

This is what info Glenn sent me he owns the 66 427 vette

brent396

02-21-2012, 10:54 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/1968-14B-Dynamotionbusinesscard.jpg

brent396

02-21-2012, 10:55 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/1968-14C-Dynamotionbusinesscard.jpg

68COPO

02-22-2012, 12:07 AM

Jeez Brent, everytime I come back to this topic the search/story gets better. Looks like you've uncovered one extra special car with (hopefully) more good history stuff to come!
Rick

brent396

02-23-2012, 01:55 AM

I found the orginal owner it was Tracy Crozier one of the owners of Dynamotion he died Jan 6 2012. Talked to his wife today remembers the car well told me he bought it new and had to order it. Dont know the dealer yet she says she probably has a pictures of it and more of the shop.She told me he fleu to Cal to buy the in floor dynometer for super tunning the cars. Suppose to be one of the first ones on the east coast to have one <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

TOM K

02-23-2012, 02:25 AM

Great news Brent! The story just gets better!!Tom

Xplantdad

02-23-2012, 03:01 AM

Brent...this will make an amazing Supercar feature when you are done! Congrats on your legwork on this...it's really paying off!

mockingbird812

02-23-2012, 03:05 AM

Congrats Brent! You are hitting pay dirt. Your diligence is paying off. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

brent396

02-23-2012, 03:34 AM

I feel like Iam on GOLD RUSH LOL Thanks Guys For the kind Words <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

PeteLeathersac

02-23-2012, 02:52 PM

This does just keep getting better and better also exciting thinking about what's yet to come!.
Wow on how close you missed Tracy..
RIP and salute to Henry T. Crozier, drag racer and US Marine.<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/rockymo...p;pid=155424693 (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/rockymounttelegram/obituary.aspx?n=henry-t-crozier&pid=155424693)

I hope Joel speaks up freely of what he remembers about this car also Tracy and the DynaMotion operation!.

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

brent396

02-24-2012, 12:44 AM

Aimee Tracy daughter has a bundle of info dynamotin she been finding her dads papers. I got a pic of my car wow try to post later

69 Post Sedan

02-24-2012, 12:53 AM

Brent, congrats on the find. Keep up the good detective work!

Kurt

bergy

02-24-2012, 01:17 AM

Way to go Brent - Old owners = the best documentation! Keep up the good work.

brent396

02-24-2012, 11:58 AM

I hope you guys can read this Tracy the owner wrote this very cool info http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/dynaarticlewrittenbytracy.jpg

brent396

02-24-2012, 12:04 PM

I also found the painter who painted the car black and put the grumpy scoop on it in 71 or 72 .He told me he still has the cowl hood and the edura front bumper its some where in his shop still <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif the owner wanted crome bumper if he only knew

elonblock

02-24-2012, 01:38 PM

Brent,

It sounds like you hit the mother lode. Keep going and let's see what else you can discover! Great job on the detective work and research.

Elon

brent396

02-24-2012, 11:39 PM

I talked to the shop mechanic second owner Jim Deakins of my car .Jim order a gold copo the same time Tracy order my orange copo jims was a auto tracy was a 4 speed .My car was bought from ourisman chevy .Jim and Tracy traded in 71 car for car .This is Jim racing it he painted it black put a tunnel ram on it ran SD class ran 1040s. Iam getting http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/PART_1330120448801.jpg lots of info and pics and dyamotion history.Check out the Lakewood bar

brent396

02-24-2012, 11:41 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/dynamotionandvett.jpg

elonblock

02-25-2012, 12:37 AM

Brent,

Great pic of the car leaving hard! Classic!!!!!

Look at the orange paint visible in the lower and side grill area.

Elon

Plowman

02-25-2012, 03:06 AM

That's nice.

Plowman

02-25-2012, 03:15 AM

Way to go brent.

Plowman

02-25-2012, 03:19 AM

That is looking good and cool.

brent396

02-25-2012, 03:37 AM

I just got off the phone with jim deakins the second owner he has a box full of pics and maybe a movie of it racing. Jim is one who sent me that pic of it black he was driving it. I have some pics of it new <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif orange with dynamotion gold leaf on the side of it very very cool looking .Caint get the pics size right to post it

jl8z28

02-25-2012, 02:54 PM

Brent have you asked jerry M or paul Keil if they know the car. I went to 7580 and Capitol when I was a teenager.

brent396

02-26-2012, 12:16 AM

I havent yet i will thanks for all the help i have been getting <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

brent396

02-26-2012, 01:31 AM

Pics are small you can tell its a copo look at the botttom pic xt rims and firestone tires and dual exhaust no ant either this was when the car was new they used shoe polish on the DYAMOTION lettering then they had it painted on gold leaf you can see the cowl hood to its cool to me iam getting better pics of it http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/69camaro.jpg

brent396

02-26-2012, 01:34 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/69camaro2.jpg I think thats a temp tag?

Xplantdad

02-26-2012, 02:11 AM

Wow...cool!

PxTx

02-26-2012, 04:33 AM

Sounds like you hit pay dirt! Congratulations on the COPO with race history and a neat day 2 look that doesn't need to be fluffed. I'm looking forward to the updates.

ricks69l78

02-26-2012, 06:44 PM

here are better pics brent of car and shop and i'm glad we were able to track down the owner history of the car so quickly with the help of my friend levon hawkins who remembers everything from the good old days and the good old internet. http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff380/Ricks69L78/dynamotionandvett.jpg

ricks69l78

02-26-2012, 07:13 PM

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff380/Ricks69L78/dynaarticlewrittenbytracy.jpg

ricks69l78

02-26-2012, 07:14 PM

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff380/Ricks69L78/camarodragrace.jpg

ricks69l78

02-26-2012, 07:15 PM

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff380/Ricks69L78/69camaro1.jpg

ricks69l78

02-26-2012, 07:15 PM

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff380/Ricks69L78/69camaro.jpg

mockingbird812

02-26-2012, 07:20 PM

Just terrific photos! Goes a long way toward establishing indisputable provenance. Congrats and keep the goog stuff coming Brent! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif

mockingbird812

02-26-2012, 07:22 PM

Get the "DRAGMASTER" photo blown up. <span style="font-style: italic">That</span> is a tuff shot!!!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

ricks69l78

02-27-2012, 12:39 AM

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff380/Ricks69L78/69camaro2.jpg

MosportGreen66

02-27-2012, 03:17 AM

Brent, this has become one of my favorite threads on the forum! Congrats and fantastic detective work...

mockingbird812

02-27-2012, 03:51 AM

Xplantdad

02-27-2012, 04:23 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF6600"><span style="font-size: 23pt">NICE!</span></span></span> </div></div>

Times 100! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

DarrenX33

02-27-2012, 05:05 AM

Holy cow is that a cool car!!!

bcmiller

02-27-2012, 02:13 PM

Awesome. Congrats!!!

Mike

02-27-2012, 02:24 PM

"Brent, this has become one of my favorite threads on the forum!"

X2

Great car Brent!! Do any of the previous owners know where the original drivetrain is?

Mike

Charley Lillard

02-27-2012, 03:36 PM

Neat thread. I love all the old pics of the car. Easy to see how these cars got lost over the years with the little changes.

SuperNovaSS

02-27-2012, 07:10 PM

This is great! Finding the car is pretty lucky in itself. All the friendly past owners that saved and offered pictures and info is awesome!

Congrats,

Jason

brent396

02-28-2012, 11:54 PM

Thanks You guys .WOW Check thease pics http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120228_135850.jpg out they came in the mail today with other pics to from jim Deakins the second owner .

brent396

02-28-2012, 11:55 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120228_135836.jpg

elonblock

02-29-2012, 12:18 AM

Brent,

The pics and the paint scheme are outstanding! Do you know if the car was delivered with the rear tail panel painted the dark color (black)? Or was that done afterwards?

Great stuff!!!!

Elon

69 Post Sedan

02-29-2012, 12:22 AM

Brent.....that car looks the best in those pictures. Great paint scheme, Cragars, tires, traction bars, blacked out tail panel. IMO

If you have any way of restoring it back to that era.....DO IT!!!!

If I didn't know any better, this is another car with 15X6 wheels and slicks in the rear. Look at those baby's bulge out the side......PERFECT!!!!!

Kurt

brent396

02-29-2012, 12:43 AM

No the back pannel was orange the must have painted black how do you like it that way.Trying to read the window stickers?Your wright they are 15x6 he said they were 29x10 M&H Good eyes <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

GMC_Typhoon

02-29-2012, 01:40 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: brent396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120228_135836.jpg </div></div>
Thread of the year I'd restore it just like this.

Xplantdad

02-29-2012, 04:31 AM

It keeps getting better Brent! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

brent396

02-29-2012, 02:11 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120229_075557.jpg

Schonyenko2

02-29-2012, 04:27 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GMC_Typhoon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: brent396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120228_135836.jpg </div></div>
Thread of the year I'd restore it just like this. </div></div>

Man, this car needs to look just like this picture. This car spent almost zero time as showroom delivered. It's existence has been a race car. It's provenence is both COPO,. and race. It's like the Vitar COPO. A piece of GM, and racing history.
Very cool Brent!

Plowman

02-29-2012, 05:40 PM

That is a very cool car.

day2killa

02-29-2012, 05:53 PM

that is a cool car great find

brent396

02-29-2012, 08:37 PM

Your wright schonye the car was race as soon as they bought it .That is a temp tag on the back .I bet that was cool looking going down the tracked <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ricks69l78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff380/Ricks69L78/69camaro2.jpg </div></div>

brent396

02-29-2012, 08:52 PM

When i talked to Jim deakins he said he remember Tracy order the car it took for ever to get the car. He thinks around 12 weeks to get it.

SS427

02-29-2012, 11:23 PM

I will add myself to the list. Restore it in race clothes! Awesome photos.

Charley Lillard

03-01-2012, 02:19 AM

While I think it looks bitchin in race trim just like everyone else I also see nobody stepping up to pay great money for the Vitar car and others that are back to race trim. They were the hot item for awhile but now they seem to have cooled off. Just something worth thinking about.

x77-69z28

03-01-2012, 03:17 AM

you cant go wrong with showroom stock IMHO. race trim is a limited market, as much as i love it, that dynamotion paint job is awesome. my z-28 came from the same dealership as the vitar car. H.M. Williams Co.

SS427

03-01-2012, 05:25 PM

A lot would depend on whether you are building it for resale or for your collection. With this car it is a part of it's history especially considering how little it lived in stock form. Tough decision either way.

Unreal

03-02-2012, 01:45 AM

Put it back stock, and then duplicate the shoe polish lettering. Now that would be cool!

PeteLeathersac

03-02-2012, 02:32 AM

Exactly!.
But add the Dragmasters!!!

This car is the find o' the year!!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

69 Post Sedan

03-02-2012, 02:36 AM

A tubbed car is always harder to sell vs. one that has it's stock rear. That's why it's better to put it back to the way it was before it was cut up. IMO

Kurt

Stefano

03-03-2012, 11:37 PM

Cool Find!

Carleen

03-04-2012, 04:01 AM

I hope that you find the Motor and the BE rear end too.

Salvatore

03-04-2012, 05:49 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GMC_Typhoon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: brent396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/IMG_20120228_135836.jpg </div></div>
Thread of the year I'd restore it just like this. </div></div> Untubed and just like this. Why showroom stock when it does not have its original drive train. It will always be a non-numbers race car IMO. Way more credibility like this than a boring non matching lawn ornament.

Xplantdad

03-04-2012, 05:55 PM

You can always do a vehicle wrap or removable decals as well...with the largest wheel tire combo that will fit... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Salvatore

03-04-2012, 06:10 PM

I would love to see the 6 cylinder front coils and the old Lakewood slapper bars with the shackle kit and Cragars. Tach, oil and temp gauge with a fuel gauge mounted on the cowl outside. Hurst flower decals, the lace or swirl paint and the T-3's painted an amber or blue color. Don't need a roll bar, fuel cell or trunk mounted battery for this deal. 10" M+H slicks. YEAAAA!

mockingbird812

03-04-2012, 06:37 PM

Now you're talkin!!!!! Not everyone has the advantage that you do to have these early, back-in-day photos documenting exactly how your Camaro was run. Charley's comment is worth heeding if you are planning a quick sale (he knows this market).

Your car's look is spot on as the way these cars looked back then! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Salvatore

03-04-2012, 06:48 PM

Don't really have to paint the name back on the side just the graphics and mod type paint job would look great I think! remember the Vitar car and Herbie's Hugger were tubbed with a narrowed rear.

DW31S

03-05-2012, 12:22 AM

VERY VERY COOL!!! Actually, I think I remember the car as a bracket racer in it's Burgundy and "ELECTRIC" '80s stripe.
On a second note, I also own a car that raced as a brand new car. My car was raced and sponsored by a new Oldsmobile dealership and then sold off of their used car lot in February 1971. While my car was not a life-long dedicated racecar like yours, it did lead a very sheltered life with only about 10k street miles. I have it re-lettered and set up as the "1969-1970" style F/S---basically the car is original and un-restored. It was just the cover and feature car of the Feb.2012 Muscle Car Review. What I'm getting at here is this:
If your intentions are to sell the car as a profit-maker, then in my opinion, a showroom-stock restoration might make more sense. However, if you are like me (and a lot of other old racers) and the car is more of a passion, and the money REALLY doesn't matter, then I would applaud you for making that car appear (and maybe even run) as it did in 1969 and 1970. True, racecars have a smaller market, but the players in that arena are a little different breed.

DW31S

03-05-2012, 01:55 AM

I went back and looked at some of those old pics. How about the guy pouring water at Capitol? Defintely a No-No today. And old-time Cecil County. Looks like that front end was set up a "little loose"--wonder if they had the front wheels staggered? That was a trick from that era---probably a Jack Arnew front suspension.
GREAT FIND!!!!!!!!!!!! Bring it to York in July---I can assure you someone there will know that car. Have you had Jerry MacNeish look at it, or have you called him yet? And maybe you said already, but where was that car sold? Ourisman Chevrolet?

Salvatore

03-05-2012, 03:47 PM

Jack Arnew, staggered front wheels.....you are going back! Welcome aboard.

TonyHuntimerRaceHome

03-05-2012, 05:44 PM

Brent,

This is an awesome COPO find! Congratulations on finding a car like this and doing some great detective work to get all the history.

You have a PM <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

Tony Huntimer
Camaro Performers Magazine

Plowman

03-06-2012, 08:51 AM

Brent-congratulations *Paul*

Plowman

03-06-2012, 08:52 AM

Go-Sam-Go

GTO_DON

03-06-2012, 04:10 PM

My favorite story on here for a long time.

day2killa

03-06-2012, 04:50 PM

great pics and story I say bring it back to drag spec

brent396

03-07-2012, 11:25 AM

Thanks Guys for the good words said from everyone <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif .In todays market how bad would it hurt it puting it in Dynamotion trim detub for sure .

bergy

03-07-2012, 12:08 PM

You can get great "stick on" signage that wouldn't hurt the HO paint. Bolt on/stick on stuff won't hurt the value & it would look super!

69 Post Sedan

03-07-2012, 12:54 PM

^^^^^What Bergy said. Plus, the car has been raced it's whole life....that's the way it should be put back to. Just as Sammy stated, you don't have the original drivetrain anyway. Detub the car and go for it Brent!

Kurt <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Salvatore

03-07-2012, 01:30 PM

I think Brent knows what to do! He is usually trying to talk other owners out of restoring a "real" racecar back to showroom. If he has to chnage the paint job back to original sometime down the road Brent can handle that himself. Done deal for him IMO it will be as a racecar I bet! Maybe set us like a 1969 A/Stocker. BRENT,BRENT,BRENT,BRENT YEAAA!

flyingn

03-19-2012, 04:33 PM

excellent story.. I also say to put it back to the Dynomotin days..

brent396

03-24-2012, 07:48 PM

Just got thease pics in .I http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/72164896-SLD-001-0023.jpg t looks good black

brent396

03-24-2012, 07:49 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/72164896-SLD-001-0016.jpg

brent396

03-24-2012, 07:49 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/72164896-SLD-001-0022.jpg

brent396

03-24-2012, 07:50 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/72164896-SLD-001-0018.jpg

brent396

03-24-2012, 07:51 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/72164896-SLD-001-0011.jpg

brent396

03-24-2012, 07:51 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/72164896-SLD-001-0029-1.jpg

mockingbird812

03-24-2012, 07:58 PM

Great shots Brent! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif love those back-in-the-day shots!!

day2killa

03-24-2012, 10:35 PM

you just cant replicate old pics, those shots are great

PeteLeathersac

03-25-2012, 01:28 AM

Every time it feels like things couldn't get any cooler there's more!!!
This car and whole story is a truly beautiful thing and the quintessential example of what this site is all about!

Congrats again Brent and looking forward to more!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

Salvatore

03-25-2012, 08:34 PM

Made my day Brent. Best drag racing era ever in IMO.

69Tom

03-28-2012, 12:26 AM

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff380/Ricks69L78/69camaro2.jpg
Not that my opinion counts, but I dig it like this the best. Still retains it's mostly original look, yet has one of it's first racing looks and decals. And the decals could be easily removable, as well as the slicks, etc....

Unreal

03-28-2012, 03:01 AM

I'm with you, but I think the lettering is shoe polish. To me, that reeks of low budget racing. I would either do it in shoe polish, or have decals made to replicate shoe polish.

brent396

04-07-2012, 03:03 PM

More pics from the aunt looks like a car show http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-04-07_08-44-57_887-1.jpg

brent396

04-07-2012, 03:05 PM

Check the sign out http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-04-07_08-45-47_709-1.jpg HP

brent396

04-07-2012, 03:08 PM

Look at the windows pin stripe http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-04-07_08-47-43_599.jpg

Xplantdad

04-07-2012, 03:31 PM

Brent....this is so cool...and ever evolving! Thanks!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

waynemiller

04-23-2012, 02:43 AM

Brent, give me a call at the house 410-956-3185

Wayne

brent396

05-17-2012, 09:28 AM

I just want to say thanks to Tony Huntimer from Camaro Performers magazine for doing a article on my Copo Camaro in June issue and the Super Car Workshop <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Xplantdad

05-17-2012, 01:53 PM

Cool...I'll have to pick up the issues! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

brent396

09-28-2012, 12:46 AM

The daughter of the orginal owner found Paper work on my COPO WOW more to come http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-09-27_20-36-46_967-1.jpg

scuncio

09-28-2012, 01:03 AM

Wow. Just wow!

Xplantdad

09-28-2012, 01:35 AM

That....is awesome Brent! Congrats again....this just keeps getting better!

mockingbird812

09-28-2012, 03:32 AM

Super Brent! That is just over the top!!!!!

bergy

09-28-2012, 08:37 AM

You hit the jackpot Brent - congrats!!!

brent396

09-28-2012, 11:04 AM

Thanks guys. Notice the transmission was costly almost close to the motor package. It must be radio delete not on the sheet.i gess it was a m22 car

bkhpah

09-28-2012, 11:27 AM

There is no guessing it was an M22 car, it IS an M22 car..BKH

m22mike

09-28-2012, 01:01 PM

Brent, you lucky Son of a Brick !!! And if there is no radio listed it simply did not get one. Radios were not actually deleted. What else you got.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

Born30YrsLate

09-28-2012, 01:30 PM

WOW...just WOW...CONGRATS!

brent396

09-28-2012, 09:59 PM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-09-28_17-13-12_758.jpg

PxTx

09-29-2012, 01:25 AM

This thead is really fun to watch it evolve. Can't imagine what it is like for you Brent. Lot of work, but sure seems like fun!

day2killa

09-29-2012, 09:16 PM

the story gets better

COPO_Anders

09-30-2012, 09:57 AM

I reread the whole story again, what a great find !

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

elonblock

09-30-2012, 11:53 AM

Congrats! That is awesome.

Elon

brent396

10-01-2012, 12:04 AM

Thanks Paul and everbody for the surport its been fun for sure. Iam very lucky to find what i have that for sure. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

brent396

10-01-2012, 12:12 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/100MEDIA95IMAG0736.jpg

brent396

10-01-2012, 12:13 AM

What is this fourm http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/100MEDIA95IMAG0737.jpg

scuncio

10-01-2012, 12:41 AM

Man, I hope your luck rubs off on the rest of us COPO owners!

John

10-01-2012, 05:37 PM

That form...

.... I believe, is the dealers invoice that shows there was a discount of $361.15 ... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

brent396

10-02-2012, 12:03 AM

Thanks John for the info .I gess Floor Matts were a option he bought them the next day according to the date http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-10-01_18-44-16_680-1.jpg

MosportGreen66

10-02-2012, 12:42 AM

OMG Brent, congrats buddy. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy/car combo!

brent396

10-02-2012, 01:21 AM

Thanks for the good words <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

brent396

10-03-2012, 12:39 AM

Look at the date .He bought it may 26 1969 http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-09-28_17-08-05_5.jpg

brent396

10-03-2012, 12:40 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-09-28_17-08-35_964.jpg

brent396

10-03-2012, 12:40 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-09-28_17-08-57_861.jpg

brent396

10-03-2012, 12:43 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-09-28_17-10-49_222.jpg

brent396

10-03-2012, 12:43 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-09-28_17-09-07_32.jpg

PxTx

10-03-2012, 01:42 AM

Very nice parts list. I bet you've got most of those in stock, right Brent?

Plowman

10-03-2012, 12:58 PM

Brent,this whole story is great and fun,Your Lucky. Let the fun begin and also have fun.

brent396

10-03-2012, 11:32 PM

Thanks Guys .Paul i have a few of the parts already <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

brent396

10-03-2012, 11:37 PM

He must showed a total cost for the Shop http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-09-28_17-07-51_896.jpg

brent396

10-03-2012, 11:56 PM

Inside the Dynamotion shop showing the dynameter in the floor http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-03-26_17-03-22_231.jpg

elonblock

10-04-2012, 11:05 AM

These records and paperwork tell the real story. It's like an archeological dig!
Great stuff and appreciate you sharing! Really brings back the memories.

Elon

brent396

10-07-2012, 11:31 PM

Thanks Elon this is the Bank security agreement http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-10-02_19-23-08_937-1.jpg

brent396

10-07-2012, 11:39 PM

This is the Bank payment booklet and the lean release on last payment in 1972 and the deposite receipt to Lowes when he ordered the car http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-10-02_19-24-08_145-1.jpg

brent396

10-10-2012, 12:25 AM

Here some time tickets second time out http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-10-09_18-21-40_879.jpg

brent396

10-10-2012, 12:26 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-10-09_18-21-59_135.jpg

brent396

10-10-2012, 12:28 AM

This is when they put the tunnel ram and the grumpy lump scoop http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-10-09_18-22-27_355-1.jpg

brent396

10-10-2012, 12:29 AM

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/2012-10-09_18-22-37_53-1.jpg

mockingbird812

10-10-2012, 12:46 AM

Very nice Brent. Maybe it would be easier to tell us if there is any documentation that you do <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">NOT</span></span></span> have!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Xplantdad

10-10-2012, 02:06 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very nice Brent. Maybe it would be easier to tell us if there is any documentation that you do <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">NOT</span></span></span> have!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

No kidding! This is fast approaching NJSteve's Hemi documentation! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

brent396

10-10-2012, 10:02 AM

Thanks guys <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Atuckman

10-10-2012, 01:08 PM

what an incredible collection of history. thanks so much for sharing

njsteve

10-10-2012, 01:54 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very nice Brent. Maybe it would be easier to tell us if there is any documentation that you do <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">NOT</span></span></span> have!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

No kidding! This is fast approaching NJSteve's Hemi documentation! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif </div></div>

LOL. Hey, have you found any unpaid speeding tickets yet? Or paperwork evidence of romantic liaisons with NFL players' wives? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif