NCRS Camaro , Chevelle, Nova 65-72 Document Services

[roeville]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jannes_z-28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got confirmation that my documents have been sent, I had order number 399.</div></div> Thanks for posting your order number. I wanted a way to gauge the progress. -Mike

[Don_Lightfoot]

Just got my email as well. #236 from the first day. It may be a while for it to show up as cross border mail is not that quick.

[L78M22Rag]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don_Lightfoot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got my email as well. #236 from the first day. It may be a while for it to show up as cross border mail is not that quick. </div></div>
I got my email that orders 175,178,180,182 and 185 were shipped out on Thursday May 8th.

Order 185 arrived here in Calgary on Monday May 12th, but the other orders seem to have taken a longer route? I can't wait to check the mailbox this afternoon.

[Rixls6]

Got my e-mail today saying that orders 395, 396, and 397 are in the mail.

[wundercluck]

Just got my email for the JL8 car- #539. The dealer code for Alan Green Chevrolet is on the original title but it was sold at Bill Hazelett in Kent, WA. Will be interesting- possible dealer trade?

[TAR6569]

Yep, probably was

[mr 707]

just got conformation for # 427. Its on the way.

[CC Rider]

I received an email today.....378 is on the way.

[L78M22Rag]

I received docs today.

I'm on the hunt for information about:

Winders Chevrolet Co. in Columbus, OH
Dealer code 695 in Zone 9

[XXXGoldL34M20]

Question for the non Corvette Document.
I have not seen a picture of a Chevelle-Camaro or Nova Document and I was wondering if it is exactly the same as these 2 Corvette Documents were it has &quot;For the restoration and preservation of Corvettes&quot; in the top left corner.
Did NCRS change that saying to something different for Chevelle, Camaro,Nova etc... or is it exactly the same as the Corvette ones in the photos?

[PeteLeathersac]

Looks like you can at least go eat lunch there...
http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/prin...n.html?page=all (http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/print-edition/2010/12/31/mezzo-owner-trying-new-venture-in.html?page=all)
How's things Helmut and which car is from Winders?
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~ Pete

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Question for the non Corvette Document.
I have not seen a picture of a Chevelle-Camaro or Nova Document and I was wondering if it is exactly the same as these 2 Corvette Documents were it has &quot;For the restoration and preservation of Corvettes&quot; in the top left corner.
Did NCRS change that saying to something different for Chevelle, Camaro,Nova etc... or is it exactly the same as the Corvette ones in the photos? </div></div>

The corporate letterhead for NCRS is used for this service, the document looks the same as those you have attached.

[XXXGoldL34M20]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Question for the non Corvette Document.
I have not seen a picture of a Chevelle-Camaro or Nova Document and I was wondering if it is exactly the same as these 2 Corvette Documents were it has &quot;For the restoration and preservation of Corvettes&quot; in the top left corner.
Did NCRS change that saying to something different for Chevelle, Camaro,Nova etc... or is it exactly the same as the Corvette ones in the photos? </div></div>

The corporate letterhead for NCRS is used for this service, the document looks the same as those you have attached. </div></div>

Thank You for the Reply Roy <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[SMGCO]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMGCO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody know where Zone 20 is ?

And or Dealer 140 ? </div></div>

In 1985 its was listed as:

20

140

CROSSROADS CHEVROLET INC

5430 LANKERSHIM BLVD

NORTH HOLLYWOOD

California

91601

1985

</div></div>

Thank you very much !

[roeville]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMGCO</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMGCO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody know where Zone 20 is ?

And or Dealer 140 ? </div></div>

In 1985 its was listed as:

20

140

CROSSROADS CHEVROLET INC

5430 LANKERSHIM BLVD

NORTH HOLLYWOOD

California

91601

1985

</div></div>

Thank you very much ! </div></div>
There are a few license plate frames on eBay but they are pricey.

[L78M22Rag]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Looks like you can at least go eat lunch there...
http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/prin...n.html?page=all (http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/print-edition/2010/12/31/mezzo-owner-trying-new-venture-in.html?page=all)
How's things Helmut and which car is from Winders?
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~ Pete
</div></div>

Things are great! How are you doing? Lunch there sounds good.

My COPO Chevelle is from Winders Chevrolet. I had an old registration placing the car in Columbus Ohio back in 1985, so its good to know the car was in the same area for more than 15 years. Hopefully someone will recall a white car with black vinyl top and red bench seat interior in the area??

Any other cars known to come from Winders? Anyone have photos of dealer embles, etc?

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Looks like you can at least go eat lunch there...
http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/prin...n.html?page=all (http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/print-edition/2010/12/31/mezzo-owner-trying-new-venture-in.html?page=all)
How's things Helmut and which car is from Winders?
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete
</div></div>

Things are great! How are you doing? Lunch there sounds good.

My COPO Chevelle is from Winders Chevrolet. I had an old registration placing the car in Columbus Ohio back in 1985, so its good to know the car was in the same area for more than 15 years. Hopefully someone will recall a white car with black vinyl top and red bench seat interior in the area??

Any other cars known to come from Winders? Anyone have photos of dealer embles, etc? </div></div>

Hi Helmut........I didn't know you had a COPO......is it photogenic?

Ryan

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Looks like you can at least go eat lunch there...
http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/prin...n.html?page=all (http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/print-edition/2010/12/31/mezzo-owner-trying-new-venture-in.html?page=all)
How's things Helmut and which car is from Winders?
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete
</div></div>

Things are great! How are you doing? Lunch there sounds good.

My COPO Chevelle is from Winders Chevrolet. I had an old registration placing the car in Columbus Ohio back in 1985, so its good to know the car was in the same area for more than 15 years. Hopefully someone will recall a white car with black vinyl top and red bench seat interior in the area??

Any other cars known to come from Winders? Anyone have photos of dealer embles, etc? </div></div>

Hi Helmut........I didn't know you had a COPO......is it photogenic?

Ryan </div></div>

This one is NOT a Mirage <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

Dan

[limerat5]

I still can't believe that I finally found out were my Chevelle finally came from after 43 years of Guessing .(dealer)thank you Roy Sinor .

[Postsedan]

Moderators we need to make this thread a Sticky <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[396L35]

I got my three back today and was surprised. My 1969 Z28 came from Sullivan Chevrolet Co, Champaign, IL which goes with the NICB report. My race car was delivered to Weber Chevrolet. The 1970 RS Camaro was delivered to Herrin-Gear Chevrolet Jackson, MS. I will be looking for a Herrin-Gear Chevrolet dealer emblem or plate frame...

[Tommy]

Lucky Dog..... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif


Tommy

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 396L35</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got my three back today and was surprised. My 1969 Z28 came from Sullivan Chevrolet Co, Champaign, IL which goes with the NICB report. My race car was delivered to Weber... </div></div>

Some Sullivan Chevy Champaign salesman thank you cards didn't sell on eBay last week, you could try messaging the seller even if only to ask about other Sullivan stuff?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-Sullivan-Chev...s-/171300461437 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-Sullivan-Chevy-Dealership-Promo-Thank-You-Card-Envelope-Champaign-IL-Illinois-/171300461437)

If your Weber car is St Louis, there a dealer postcard on eBoy too...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MO-Saint-Louis-M...=item5afff7f45b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MO-Saint-Louis-Missouri-Weber-Chevrolet-Auto-Dealership-Dexter-No-93969C-/390841496667?pt=Postcards_US&amp;hash=item5afff7f45b)

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~ Pete

[396L35]

Thanks Pete on the heads up. I already own one 69 Camaro from Weber and now I have two from the paperwork that was supplied from NCRS. I have that post card and now I need to look and see if my HO car is in the lot.

[396L35]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lucky Dog..... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif


Tommy </div></div>

That is right Tommy I have a Southern car...

[wundercluck]

Wow got the shipping report for the Z/28 yesterday... I have a copy of the original Title listing WA dealer No. 204 as the Dealer No. which comes up as Alan Green Chevrolet in Seattle WA but the Dealers report of sale on the title is Bill Hazelett Chevrolet in Kent WA- figured Dealer trade right? Well the NCRS Doc. shows delivery to Capital Chevrolet in Olympia, WA- double dealer trade? Maybe the deal didn't work out at Alan Green...wow this is Awesome- anyone ever heard of Ed McCarroll? He bought Capital Chev in 1965.

[TAR6569]

Yeah, I've seen cars that were swapped at least 4 times between different area dealers before they were finally sold!

[TDW]

Casey Cole Chevrolet in Bradford Pa is where my 70 SS Nova came from. Nothing shows up with an internet search for them.

[Steve Shauger]

[quote=TDW]Casey Cole Chevrolet in Bradford Pa is where my 70 SS Nova came from. Nothing shows up with an internet search for them. [/quote

I owned a 69 Z28 with JL8 from that dealership. Actually two JL8 equipped Z28's were sold at that dealership. I owned the red and there was an orange one as well.

[427freak]

Just got my letter. YS 8011 shows delivered to Yenko Chevrolet. Not that I doubted it, but it is nice to have. Now just need original owner info, maybe some day.
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Thanks Roy and staff, great service!

[Stefano]

Anyone have anything on The Central Motor Co of Hamilton, Ohio 45010, just outside of Cincinnati? They had at least one COPO 9561.

[orig69ss]

Got mine today car production date was 3/19/69, I was told the car had just been delivered on Friday. I bought the car and picked it thursday 27th what a day that was, could hardly wait to show my friends that was 45yrs ago.Thanks Roy its great to have this paper work, if only had a build sheet. Thanks again.

Chuck

[427freak]

Great memory Chuck, I think being the original owner is as good as the build sheet. It would be nice to be able get that info though for the Chevy's.
My letter read 4/15/68 build date. I looked it up and it was on a monday, I had to laugh. Tax day too. I noticed my trim tag reads 2nd week of April, the car was built on the 1st day of the 3rd week so pretty tight from tag to assembly.

[wisemanz28]

Got my report back from NCRS. I thought my car came from Milwaukee Wisconsin, boy was I off ! The report says the dealership it was delivered to was C. Bell Chevorlet Co., they were located on Sheldon Ave. Grand Rapids, Mi. Dealer code 22, Zone 45. If you guys ever heard of this place or know if it's still in business please let me know. Any info is greatly appreciated.

[orig69ss]

Dana it has been a great time and still is, the dealer code is 76 and zone is 28.

Callender Chevrolet
Ashtabula Ohio

[camaromb]

Nice to see the Yenko cars show up on these shipping records, many do not appear on the NICB records. Has anyone seen an NICB showing Yenko for any of the Copo cars?

Happy to get my reports last week:

1969 Z28 L526897 Frontier Chevrolet, Fresno California
1969 Z28 N685441 Gillespie-Durden Chevrolet, Inc. Prattville, AL
1969 Copo N625854 Prout Chevrolet

Thanks Roy for all your work!

[mr 707]

received ncrs report : zone 13 5/31/1967
Yenko Chevrolet
Cannonsburg,PA Thanks roy and the ncrs. In my opinion this is a must have document for a Yenko camaro.

[scuncio]

C Bell was around through the 1970s, not sure what happened to them. I believe I have a decal from the dealer.

[wisemanz28]

Found an old ad for C. Bell Chevorlet Co. from a high school yearbook, it even had a phone number. Tried the phone number, no good.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: orig69ss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got mine today car production date was 3/19/69, I was told the car had just been delivered on Friday. I bought the car and picked it thursday 27th what a day that was, could hardly wait to show my friends that was 45yrs ago.Thanks Roy its great to have this paper work, if only had a build sheet. Thanks again.

Chuck </div></div>

Very cool to get another piece of documentation.

Car memories never fade.

Ryan

[ssl78]

I believe I was #418 and 419 got them back today anyone hear of Brown &amp; Hoeye Mesa AR or Seip Chevrolet Chicago IL

[BTL]

I was #480.report arrived today....Dealer Code19...Zone27..It is a start

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ssl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe I was #418 and 419 got them back today anyone hear of Brown &amp; Hoeye Mesa AR or Seip Chevrolet Chicago IL </div></div>

John, its Brown &amp; Hoeye in Mesa Arizona

...from Facebook <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marty Swanty Remember it well !!! I even worked for Brown &amp; Hoeye Chev. when they removed Pete's Fish &amp; Chips to build a new Show room. Martin</div></div> I grew up in AZ Facebook Post (https://www.facebook.com/grewupinmesa/posts/10202503726169228?stream_ref=10)

Three billboards:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-1805-11861-bbb0447.jpg


http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-1805-11862-bbb0458.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-1805-11863-bbb0427.jpg


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[Xplantdad]

Another Facebook post: https://www.facebook.com/grewupinmesa/posts/136687023164251

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jeff Swanty

I grew up in Mesa, Arizona
February 3, 2013 ·

I was born in the old Southside Hospital at the corner of Hibbert &amp; Main, went to grade school right next door, &amp; worked at the old Brown &amp; Hoeye which is across the street. I used to joke I never got away from this interesection until I joined the Navy to see the world. Mesa was a great place to grow up.
</div></div>


Ad from paper http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-1805-11864-tn_0_0_3356_5007.jpg

Is now Brown and Brown Chevrolet:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-1805-11865-brown_and_brown.jpg

[TAR6569]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BTL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was #480.report arrived today....Dealer Code19...Zone27..It is a start </div></div>

Cool, what kind of car do you have?

[SMGCO]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMGCO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody know where Zone 20 is ?

And or Dealer 140 ? </div></div>

In 1985 its was listed as:

20

140

CROSSROADS CHEVROLET INC

5430 LANKERSHIM BLVD

NORTH HOLLYWOOD

California

91601

1985

</div></div>

Thank you kindly. Wonder why its so expensive ?

[acelr8]

Anyone have info from Ed Roberts Chevrolet in Bonner Springs KS 67 triple black 4 K or Kitson Chevrolet in Eatontown NJ 69 COPO white that was Anders Just got NCRS forms. Both are still in business. Thanks Jeff

[ssl78]

Thanks Bruce as usual you always come thru now I really never get on face book so I will get my wife to look him up. The car is a hugger orange RS SS believed to be a real L78 auto car. I bought the car from Al in New Jersey it sure traveled a long way.

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ssl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Bruce as usual you always come thru now I really never get on face book so I will get my wife to look him up. The car is a hugger orange RS SS believed to be a real L78 auto car. I bought the car from Al in New Jersey it sure traveled a long way. </div></div>

You're welcome John...there's two different guys to have your wife check out <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[BTL]

68 Camaro rs, ss

[TAR6569]

cool. The codes you posted are Baldwin Chevrolet. Did they identify the dealer name in the letter or just give you the codes?

[BTL]

Baldwin Auto Co Inc

Baldwin NY

[CC Rider]

This is a surprise to me.

Kelly Sales Co
340 S. Madison
Greenwood, IN 4614X
Dealer code 291 Zone 25

The building still stands and is currently Kenny's Transmission of Greenwood.

Oh, and the Chevelle's production date was July 31, 1969.

Bruce has done some cool research for me. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Xplantdad]

You mean this? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

1920's...

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-1805-11881-kelly_car_co2.jpg

Current day with pic overlay from 1957

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-1805-11882-kelly_car_co1.jpg





Ad #1 from high school yearbook

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-1805-11885-kelly_car_co3.jpg

Ad #2 from high school yearbook

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-1805-11886-kelly_car_co4.jpg

Current day from Google Earth

[SeattleCarGuy]

Just got my paperwork yesterday for my 1969 L78 Nova.

Car is an 06A build date and was GM official production date is 6/10/69. Original delivery dealer was Dealer Code 447 in Zone 44 which lists name and location of dealer as:

Les Stanford Chevrolet
Dearborn, MI

We knew the car came out of Michigan and was drag raced early in its life at Milan Dragway. Does anyone remember either my Dover White '69 Nova or Les Stanford Chevrolet?

Thanks,

Paul

[SeattleCarGuy]

Just Googled and found that Les Stanford Chevrolet is still going strong as a Chevy &amp; Cadillac dealer. I emailed them through their website requesting whether they had any original paperwork in their archives that they could provide to me.

Any other suggestions on how to best find documentation on my Nova?

I have two buildsheets already, but I would love to have some original dealer paperwork such as sales order form, etc.

I guess I am encouraged that the dealer is still around.

[CTChevelle]

Regarding Les Stanford Chevrolet. I picked this 1969 Nova up a few years ago from this site. It was sold from Les Stanford Chevrolet and I just sent out for the NCRS documents to confirm it. It has been a race car since the 70s and still looks the exact same today. I put in a link below to what it looked like back in the day. I'm not sure what drag strip it was.

Vintage race photo (http://public.fotki.com/mastermodeler/11_reference_pictures/photos_from_the_web/drag-cars-by-contri/todd-wingerter-coll/todds-11-drag-photos/plain-brown-wrapper-1.html#media)

[BLACKLS5]

I owned a Fathom Blue LS6 Chevelle years ago that was sold at Les Stanford. I called but didn't get any where. Maybe I didn't try hard enough. Bench seat,M40, Blue cloth interior, 4.10's. No gauges, No Cowl Ind, No Stripes. Just a plain wrapper. Oh, It did have a trailer hitch... Troy

[x77-69z28]

Just got my three in the mail yesterday. I knew where my 67 and 69 came from, no surprise there. My 70Z project came with a CE block and a replacement POP from Theigs-Essler motors. The NCRS paperwork shows Arnold Chevrolet in Watkins Minnesota. A google search shows it is still in business today! What are the odds that they have any old docs? Does anyone here have any info on Arnold Chevrolet? Thanks Roy for giving us some detective work to do!
Buddy

[enio45]

Just got my 68 Yenko Camaro Info - no surprise but good to have!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/05/full-699-12049-img.jpg

Waiting for the other 1968 Corvette Bronze non-converted yenko info to come in as well!

[jannes_z-28]

Got mine in the mail today, less than a week for international mail is good.

My '69 Z/28 is a 05C car and has a production date of May 15, 1969. It was delivered to Howell-Smutz Chevrolet in Eden, NY

Thanks Roy for great service.

BTW it came to Sweden in November 1973

[Tarrytown SS427s]

What order number are we up to as far as delivered reports go?

[Don_Lightfoot]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What order number are we up to as far as delivered reports go? </div></div>

My order was #236 on the first day. Email received May 15. Report not here yet thanks to slow cross border mail. Hopefully today or tomorrow.

[jannes_z-28]

I had #399

[enio45]

My 68 yenko was #423 request

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'm #712 - #716, guess I need to sit on my hands for a little while longer..... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif

[Tarrytown SS427s]

I'm over 1000, so I guess it'll be a few more weeks..

[9566 BA]

I was 473 and 473 got my letters Monday

[scuncio]

Still waiting on #310.

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still waiting on #310. </div></div>

It was mailed 3/14

[scuncio]

Not a good sign! Thanks, I will look into it.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Are other sites as enthusiastic about this service?

[Rixls6]

Great thanks to the NCRS for providing this service.
One of the 3 VIN's for a black `69 SS396 post sedan came back as being sold new at McCormick Motors in Nappanee, IN.
I called the dealer and actually talked with the salesman/owner who ordered the car originally in `69, and has been there for 53 years. He thought he remembered who bought the car as it was his nephew.
He gave me the nephew's number, who called me back and remembered the car being sold new to an acquaintance/friend out of Warsaw, IN. He gave me the name, but also said the guy was killed in Viet Nam in early `70.
The owner of the dealership, Bernie Beer, says he will ask around to see if anyone he knows may know what happened with the car after that. Great guy!
When the car is done, I plan on taking it to McCormick Motors to show it to Bernie. He says he'd love to see it as it's fun for him to relive the performance years too.

[enio45]

wow, this has opened up new avenues for our cars/history and validation.

Thanks for a great service!

[scuncio]

Cool story Rick. I'm shipping your emblem tomorrow for your 'other' post sedan....

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great thanks to the NCRS for providing this service.
One of the 3 VIN's for a black `69 SS396 post sedan came back as being sold new at McCormick Motors in Nappanee, IN.
I called the dealer and actually talked with the salesman/owner who ordered the car originally in `69, and has been there for 53 years. He thought he remembered who bought the car as it was his nephew.
He gave me the nephew's number, who called me back and remembered the car being sold new to an acquaintance/friend out of Warsaw, IN. He gave me the name, but also said the guy was killed in Viet Nam in early `70.
The owner of the dealership, Bernie Beer, says he will ask around to see if anyone he knows may know what happened with the car after that. Great guy!
When the car is done, I plan on taking it to McCormick Motors to show it to Bernie. He says he'd love to see it as it's fun for him to relive the performance years too. </div></div>

fantastic.

Fantastic.

FANTASTIC.

Ryan

[Rixls6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cool story Rick. I'm shipping your emblem tomorrow for your 'other' post sedan.... </div></div>

Pretty cool alright, and the owner was actually saying he was having fun digging into this. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif
Hope the &quot;other&quot; post car ends up having some history info.
Look forward to the emblem Tony! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[rpoz28]

The report on my 67 Z28 came like this-

The GM official Production Date was 4/6/1967

The original delivery Dealer was code 0 in zone 40

The name and location of the dealer was:

Chevrolet Zone Office
Charleston, WV


Car is a cowl plenum intake with no non-Z28 options.

Any ideas why the zone office would order this car?

[scuncio]

Cars intended for the press were routed through the zone offices...that's my guess.

[scuncio]

Received my report today. Sold new at Schwyn Brothers Chevrolet in Blissfield, MI. This lines up exactly with the previous owner's story and I am stoked!

[Alss]

586 shipped yesterday..one more piece of paperwork for the COPO...its become quite a stack! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

712 through 716 shipped yesterday.... can't wait <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">586 shipped yesterday..one more piece of paperwork for the COPO...its become quite a stack! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif </div></div>

LIKE.

Ryan

[Alss]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">712 through 716 shipped yesterday.... can't wait <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

Damm..they are hustling! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'm taking tomorrow off of work to wait by the mailbox.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

Surprisingly, there was no record of my Yenko Deuce in their database, <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif No worries though, that was the only car of my 4 submissions where I knew where it went originally and where it was sold from - Yenko to Nankivell - thanks to having Yenko's Inventory Sheet, original bill of sale and the POP. But, I'd like to see if other Deuce owners have similar results.

[69hurstSC]

Awesome! Now open it up for Impala's!!

[chadk]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Awesome! Now open it up for Impala's!! </div></div>
what he said!!

[Mikes12zl1]

I'm 792 and can't wait!!

[Mk IV Muscle]

815 here and really exited. This will help to fill in some blanks and maybe the good folks on here can help me as well. Research I SHOULD have done a long time ago.

[mssl72]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Awesome! Now open it up for Impala's!! </div></div>

Let's not be anti Caprice! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[Rixls6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mssl72</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Awesome! Now open it up for Impala's!! </div></div>

Let's not be anti Caprice! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif </div></div>

Or you might say, don't be so Capricious. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

[jl8z28]

I got mine for my 69Z JL8 production date was 6/5/69 Dealer code 615 in zone 15 Ray G Sheeler, Inc Downingtown, Pa the 2and owner bought the car in 70 from the same dealer I have a protect-0-plate that he had. so the first owner bought it new there and traded it back in a year later.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

One of the best parts of this service is that we all find out about dealers that we've never heard of - and when we run across dealer trinkets it will jog our memory and we can pick them up for each other. I'll be looking out for Ray Sheeler stuff now too....

[iluv69s]

Usually hate getting mail..it's always bills..

but every day I'm waiting for the mailman...numbers 812..813..814... should be any day I think !! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

Thanks NCRS !!!

[TAR6569]

I'm guessing they are waiting to see how it works out with the current expansion before opening it up to fullsize and Corvairs. But yeah, I can't wait to request the info for our impalas.

[PeteLeathersac]

Anyone know if these NCRS reports would include any US built cars shipped new to Canadian dealer codes or is it info for cars shipped to US dealers only?
If yes to Canadian dealers, is it known if any have happened like this yet...nice surprise if so being it'd indicate the availability of Canadian paperwork!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[SeattleCarGuy]

I contacted Les Stanford Chevrolet where my L78 Nova was delivered and they gave me a short reply stating they destroy records after 5 years so no luck. I have two build sheets for the car, but would have been nice to get some other original paperwork from the dealer if it was available.

[travlnz28]

My JL8 was delivered to Milliken Chevrolet in Culver City, California. Production date was June 3, 1969.

Milliken is closed. Does anybody have any information at all about them?

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of the best parts of this service is that we all find out about dealers that we've never heard of - and when we run across dealer trinkets it will jog our memory and we can pick them up for each other. I'll be looking out for Ray Sheeler stuff now too.... </div></div>


I got an email from Dave Lindsley (Z28DL)-He's been collecting this stuff for years (What doesn't he collect? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif )

I bet if you needed one of these for your car-he'd probably be open to it! He said he even has more somewhere he thinks...LOL (Hey Charley, I see a Steakley Chevvrolet emblem!)

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[Z28DL]

Thanks Bruce for putting these on the SYC! Maybe there is one that someone needs for their car.
Dave

[396L35]

I have a few Steakley Chevrolet emblems..

[1967Z28]

Those dealer emblems are great. Thanks for posting them. I'm looking for anything from Piedmont Chevrolet-Oldsmobile, Inc in Culpeper, VA, if anybody can help. Thanks.

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Z28DL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Bruce for putting these on the SYC! Maybe there is one that someone needs for their car.
Dave
</div></div>

You are welcome Dave...You rock!

See you in a month or so! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Anyone know if these NCRS reports would include any US built cars shipped new to Canadian dealer codes or is it info for cars shipped to US dealers only?
If yes to Canadian dealers, is it known if any have happened like this yet...nice surprise if so being it'd indicate the availability of Canadian paperwork!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete </div></div>

We should be able to identify a US Built Canadian export.

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 396L35</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a few Steakley Chevrolet emblems.. </div></div>

If I measure the emblem holes on my Copo and you check to see if they match yours ?

[Damien]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Z28DL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Bruce for putting these on the SYC! Maybe there is one that someone needs for their car.
Dave
</div></div>

Awesome collection and great gesture Dave! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[ds1]

Charley, I posted the picture on my car of the putty filling the holes where the Berger emblem was on your urging. I knew where the car came from after talking to the original owner. Now I have my report stating it and bought the emblem I needed for on the back. The NCRS reports came at the right time for me. Maybe now I can get the first owner to put something on paper for me. Great collection of dealer emblems.

[396L35]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 396L35</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a few Steakley Chevrolet emblems.. </div></div>

If I measure the emblem holes on my Copo and you check to see if they match yours ? </div></div>

You got it Charley...

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Anyone know if these NCRS reports would include any US built cars shipped new to Canadian dealer codes or is it info for cars shipped to US dealers only?
If yes to Canadian dealers, is it known if any have happened like this yet...nice surprise if so being it'd indicate the availability of Canadian paperwork!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete </div></div>

We should be able to identify a US Built Canadian export.

</div></div>

Thanks for responding Roy also good news about the cars shipped to Canada!
It may be a good idea to include a note &amp; GM Canada Vintage services contact info w/ any NCRS reports supplied for cars like this also Cdn. built cars shipped new to the States as not everyone is aware that VINs crossing the Canada/US border in either direction when new had their RPO info etc recorded thus available today for these cars from Canada Vintage services.
Gotta say the recent NCRS service is simply THE best thing that's happened to this hobby in recent years!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[L78M22Rag]

How does one get a rush NCRS report?

[RichSchmidt]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;The shipper info provides the details of the dealer the car was originally shipped to from the factory&quot;



Lots of owners with fake build sheets will not match this document which will stir many red flags for them <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div> Sooo [not trying to be a jerk] The guy with the fake build sheet can make a new one with the <span style="font-style: italic">correct</span> dealer info....

Not sure how this new service is really going to change anything if it doesn't have build info , like a PHS report. </div></div>


The document has a notory type stamp on a gold leaf type surface embodded on it. I would malso think that the NCRS will keep a record of the letters they sent out,since it would be fairly easy for them to do.

[RichSchmidt]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sYc</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think a lot of cars will be &quot;exposed&quot; with this new information. </div></div>

I keep hearing this but do not see why. The way I read the press release the document will not contain build information, just shipping info, such as selling dealer. I doubt it will &quot;expose&quot; a hand full of cars, as except for the few so called &quot;supercars dealers&quot;, why would anyone lie about the selling dealer?

I do think it is a positive though, as many car enthusiasts are curious where their cars were sold new, and for the supercars, not all dealer records are available, which left the NICB as the only source for such information, which few folks can access. IMO, as this service moves forward, we will see the number of documented supercars increase.

Then the only debate will be how was it equipped/modified. </div></div>

In my case it has helped. I have a car that has been a race car all it's life. I traced it's ownership history back to 1976 when a guy when a guy from western Maryland supposedly picked up the car in Connecticut. The yellow paint on a New England 70 Camaro pro stocker had me thinking it was maybe the Peavy speed shop car,then another source said the guy picked up the car at SRD race cars in 76. As it turned out,my car was sold new at Hallowell Chevrolet in Easton Maryland which is near Delaware. Talk about something from left field. Now I can look for racers in that area,and it sure as heck is more consistent with the car being worked on at SRD back in 1976. I also have another supercar that I want to get the dealership info on before I pay out money to the supercar shop owner to document it. Unfortunatly the car is a 1973,which they don't have the records for.

[LAH]

I received my NCRS reports today and am very pleased. I have two original numbers matching, documented cars, a 69 HO X77D80 Z/28 (Wilkins Chevrolet, Norfolk, Va. and a 66 SS396 California smog 4sp Chevelle, black with red bucket interior (Gustafson Chevrolet, Eureka Ca.) Everything matched perfectly with my original owner docs, POP, build dates etc. Thanks to Roy and the NCRS.

[mr 707]

alot of bogus protect- o plates and order forms were made up in the 90s-2000s, and alot of them didnt know the original dealers. Now with the ncrs shipper is will shine the light on those cars or send them scrambling for new fake documents.

[TAR6569]

The Gustafson newspaper ads are available on Newspaperarchive.com I know they go back to at least 69 maybe some 68's. Didn't look at earlier ones

[LAH]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Gustafson newspaper ads are available on Newspaperarchive.com I know they go back to at least 69 maybe some 68's. Didn't look at earlier ones </div></div>

Thank you for that info! I will start digging.

[1970ChevelleSS]

Has anyone heard of Hudiburg Chevrolet?
Code 428 zone 23.
Midwest City OK
That is where my chevelle is from.
Thanks

[1970ChevelleSS]

I just googled and it looks like they are still around.

[DannyLCMC]

Anybody have any info on Wilson Chevrolet in Morgantown, WV? Googled them and found nothing. Are they in business under another name maybe.

[Z28DL]

Well I got my 4 NCRS Reports today missing dealer info on 3 of them. I hope I can get from the SYC guys!
1) NCRS - Dealer code 0 in zone 10. My POP Burman Chevrolet Co. 158 N.3rd Laramie, Wyoming
2) NCRS - Dealer code 45 in zone 26. My Original sales agreement, trade-in paperwork and misc. show O.B. Edmonds 9144 5th Avenue
Jacksonville, Florida
3) NCRS - Dealer code 465 in zone 20. I have no paperwork on this car
4) NCRS - Dealer code 46 in zone 12. Dealer was Berglund Chevrolet Inc. in Jamestown, New York. This matches my POP!

Thanks in advance!
Dave

[iluv69s]

what number are they up to??

[cook_dw]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]
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PM sent on the Capitol one.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Dave...your message box is full...wanted to touch base on the dealer emblems.

thanks..tom Williams

[resto4u]

I believe anytime there is a zero for dealer, that car went to a zone office. then later sold through a dealer.

[Jonesy]

I was #676, just got mine in the mail today.

I always thought my car was from Grand Forks ND. But it was originally shipped to Hallman Chevrolet, Inc. in Reno, NV (Even though my NCRS letter says Reno, NE)
Im sure its Reno Nevada not Nebraska

LOS car 11A says its production date was 11/14/68.

Anyone heard of this dealer or have anything on them?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Need to know:

'67 Camaro built 6/13/67: Zone 61, Dealer Code 657

'69 Nova built 2/7/69: Zone 49, Dealer Code 497

The '70 Z28 came back as Keyser Inc, Lansdale, PA! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[bergy]

Got 3 back today:

1 - Dealer code 168 in zone 28 = Ewing Chevrolet

2 - Dealer code 282 in zone 45 = Nischan-Spalding Inc.

3 - Dealer code 898 in zone 13 = Yenko Chevrolet

Interesting that #1 was built the day before #2!

No surprises, but good stuff for the file. Thanks Roy &amp; NCRS

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Is anyone able to decipher the dealer info on my Camaro and Nova????

[92646]

My 1969 SS350 Nova is a California original car as the prior owner claimed. The original delivery dealer code was 312 in zone 20. Mel Bunnell in Pomona California. Neat info and thank you NCRS. My build sheet is real hard to read so this is a big help.

[Mikes12zl1]

Got mine today and I'm #792.
Build date 12-9-68
Dealer code 125
Zone 20
Delivered to Connell Chevrolet in Costa Mesa CA (who is still in business) Does someone know anybody who works there? THANKS Roy!!

[Z28DL]

Hey Mark,
I sent you a private message. One of my cars came back with a Dealer code 465 and zone 20 which appears to be in Ca. Do you where I can get the dealer codes as I know some of the SYC guys seem to have that info?
Thanks,
Dave

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Got my Black Bear (AKA 66 SS L-78) letter today! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Born and Raised in Atlanta, GA Sold via the &quot;John Smith Co.&quot; Atlanta GA.

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[John]

..... Nice chevelle

..... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[chevyman0429]

Wow that's one sharp 66. My all time favorite year!

[Alss]

got mine for the COPO yesterday..confirms my buildsheets, dealer 49, zone 12, Joe Bookman chevy Buffalo NY. Interesting though, the NCRS had no dealer name available? I knew what 49-12 was ahead of time...car was built 7-11-69.

[68l30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DannyLCMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody have any info on Wilson Chevrolet in Morgantown, WV? Googled them and found nothing. Are they in business under another name maybe. </div></div>

I may have a pic of a Dealer sticker from there. I was finding stuff from that dealer back in the 80's,thought my Camaro was close to there at one time...... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

BIG

[Tarrytown SS427s]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Need to know:

'67 Camaro built 6/13/67: Zone 61, Dealer Code 657

'69 Nova built 2/7/69: Zone 49, Dealer Code 497

The '70 Z28 came back as Keyser Inc, Lansdale, PA! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif</div></div>

49-497 is Sausman Chevrolet 717 Market St. Lemoyne PA
61-657 don't have in my list, but it is somewhere in Wisconsin

[427freak]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Z28DL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Mark,
I sent you a private message. One of my cars came back with a Dealer code 465 and zone 20 which appears to be in Ca. Do you where I can get the dealer codes as I know some of the SYC guys seem to have that info?
Thanks,
Dave </div></div>

From the NCRS website

Zone Dealer Number Dealer Name Address City State Zipcode Source Year Active Notes
20 465 Unknown Unknown brea California Unknown 1969 Unknown looking for the name and address of this dealer
THANKS
20 465 Daogherty 146 s Brea st Brea California Unknown 1960 Changed Name This Dealer was sold &amp; became Security Chevrolet
20 465 Security Chev 146 S. Brea Brea California Unknown 1966 Changed Name Trying to discover the history of this dealership after 1966. Believed to have become maybe &quot;Guardian&quot; or &quot;Michael's&quot;
Thanks
20 465 Security Chev 146 S Brea st. Brea California Unknown 1965 No longer in Busines This Dealer was only in business for 3 or 4 years, It may have been owned by Selman of Orange County. From approx 1952 to 1962 this Dealers original. name was Daogherty Chevrolet

[Z28DL]

Thanks Dana,
I did find a post from another site from years ago that noted that he bought his 69 Z/28 new from Guardian. I tried to check out some old newspaper ads from that area and time period but ran out of steam last night. At least I know it's a Ca. car from Brea. That's a 100% more than I knew 2 days ago.
Thanks again,
Dave

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Thanks Steve. The NCRS website lists Sausman as 49 - 496. I always thought that this car was from Sunderland, which is what Sausman became in / around 1969. While the NCRS site does not have Sunderland, I know that in 1978 they were 49 - 580 (per a build sheet I found online last night for a '78 Anniv Vette).

So, now I don't know where the car was from, and what I thought was a Sunderland sold car - now appears not... Feel like I just took a big step backwards. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif

I'm at an even bigger loss on the '67 Camaro.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

[GMC_Typhoon]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427freak</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Z28DL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Mark,
I sent you a private message. One of my cars came back with a Dealer code 465 and zone 20 which appears to be in Ca. Do you where I can get the dealer codes as I know some of the SYC guys seem to have that info?
Thanks,
Dave </div></div>

From the NCRS website

Zone Dealer Number Dealer Name Address City State Zipcode Source Year Active Notes
20 465 Unknown Unknown brea California Unknown 1969 Unknown looking for the name and address of this dealer
THANKS
20 465 Daogherty 146 s Brea st Brea California Unknown 1960 Changed Name This Dealer was sold &amp; became Security Chevrolet
20 465 Security Chev 146 S. Brea Brea California Unknown 1966 Changed Name Trying to discover the history of this dealership after 1966. Believed to have become maybe &quot;Guardian&quot; or &quot;Michael's&quot;
Thanks
20 465 Security Chev 146 S Brea st. Brea California Unknown 1965 No longer in Busines This Dealer was only in business for 3 or 4 years, It may have been owned by Selman of Orange County. From approx 1952 to 1962 this Dealers original. name was Daogherty Chevrolet </div></div>The Brea CA 1969 phone book lists that address as House Of Imports Inc (Kenneth Rivera Mgrl
146 S Brea BI

[GMC_Typhoon]

Here's the local Chevy dealer in 69

GUARDIAN CHEVROLET
800 S Brea BI , 529-4981

[Don_Lightfoot]

Pony Express finally arrived in Canada. Received my document for order #236. Mine is shown as Zone 8, dealer 199.

Receiving dealer was Dunlap Chevrolet of Macon, Georgia. This confirms what my research had obtained many years ago. Actual assembly date was March 14, 1969 (Friday) which coincides with my trim tag build date of 03B.

Dunlap Chevrolet was taken over by Youmans Chevrolet in the early 1980’s. In 2005 I talked to one of the original Dunlap family members. He was very gracious in sending me some pictures, dealer stickers and an old license plate. Way back “in the day” they were actually an auto manufacturing company under the name of Dunlap-Huckabee. One of the pictures below is the assembly plant.

This document is a nice piece to have. Thanks Roy.

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[the427king]

Without going back and searching 40 pages, is there a time frame for this information as far as how far they go back to ???

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

FWIW, here's the build sheet for a '78 AnniVette from Sunderland showing zone 49, dealer 580

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[COPO_Anders]

Got the info yesterday for the 1966 327 Chevy II below and the 1969 L-78 Nova we bought from Duceless.
The Chevy II was ordered by Star Chevrolet Co Inc, East Orange, NJ. Dealer code 301 in zone 35.
The Nova was ordered by Havre Motor Corp, Ravenna, OH. Dealer code 245 in zone 28.
It was expected that the ordering dealers were from New Jersey and Ohio.

[67rs/ss]

Website says 1965-1972 Nova, Chevelle and Camaro.

[68ys8030]

Damn. I just received an email that they found no records on my 9N7091XX 69 Camaro. oh well... they tried.

[68l30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68l30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DannyLCMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody have any info on Wilson Chevrolet in Morgantown, WV? Googled them and found nothing. Are they in business under another name maybe. </div></div>

I may have a pic of a Dealer sticker from there. I was finding stuff from that dealer back in the 80's,thought my Camaro was close to there at one time...... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

BIG </div></div>

Sticker...from 1971

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68ys8030</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn. I just received an email that they found no records on my 9N7091XX 69 Camaro. oh well... they tried. </div></div>

Give us a few weeks and retry your VIN, we are having those records researched again as we think we might have missed some of them in the first research.

[TAR6569]

I think I have some business cards from Security Chevrolet in Vista from 1969

[DannyLCMC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68l30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68l30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DannyLCMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody have any info on Wilson Chevrolet in Morgantown, WV? Googled them and found nothing. Are they in business under another name maybe. </div></div>

I may have a pic of a Dealer sticker from there. I was finding stuff from that dealer back in the 80's,thought my Camaro was close to there at one time...... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

BIG </div></div>

Sticker...from 1971 </div></div>

Do you still have the sticker?

[iluv69s]

Was wondering about the re-invoiced Zl-1s?? Anyone get the NCRS report back? Do they have Gibb as the dealer? Just curious...

FWIW..my #34 ZL-1 had MSO from Govans Chev..where it was finally sold in June 1970

[Tommy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>Give us a few weeks and retry your VIN, we are having those records researched again as we think we might have missed some of them in the first research. [/quote]



Any possibility of finding more Nova VIN's at some point Roy?


Tommy

[67rs/ss]

Just got email today order number #845 on the way.

[roeville]

I also received my email today, number 849 on the way.

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Any possibility of finding more Nova VIN's at some point Roy?


Tommy </div></div>

send your VIN in a private email to me, I'll look at the Nova stuff maybe we missed some of their sequences.

[parkbrau]

Roy, if you dont mind. I re-sent my Nova VIN as well. If you could take another look...much appreciated.

john

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: John S.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Roy, if you dont mind. I re-sent my Nova VIN as well. If you could take another look...much appreciated.

john </div></div>

We are working on a re retrieval of VIN'S for all Nova's and the 69 Camaro's. I do not know that it will yield anything new but we are reprocessing them.

Just so everyone knows, we have flagged every order we could not complete and will recheck them all automatically - you are welcome to ask me to recehceck your vin's individually but you do not need to, it will only slow the recheck process down. If new information is found letters will automatically be generated and mailed to those that received partial information, those that received refunds will be notified they need to reoroder if we find anything.

[Damien]

Got my info today and my car was sold thru Brown and Holter Motor Co in Cheney WA, however a check of the dealer code 62 in zone 42 shows Ashmore Chevrolet in Rockford WA. Interestingly I bought it out of WA but the guy before me got it from Michigan. Did a quick check and it looks like neither dealer is around. Would anyone know anything of the dealers? I'm going to put something in the wanted classifieds too and see if I can pick up any licence plate frames, dealer emblems or memorabilia. Probably a long shot but who knows?
Thanks Roy, a great service for someone who has zero documentation for their car such as me. Something is better than nothing.

[iluv69s]

Got my email Saturday that my docs on my 3 cars are in the mail !! Where are they mailed from??

I'm going to Brazil on Wednesday and I hope they arrive prior... come on U.S. mail !!!

[enio45]

order number 1029 being shipped...

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got my email Saturday that my docs on my 3 cars are in the mail !! Where are they mailed from??

I'm going to Brazil on Wednesday and I hope they arrive prior... come on U.S. mail !!! </div></div>

They are mailed from North Eastern Oklahoma

[iluv69s]

Thanks Roy... should arrive tomorrow hopefully !!!

[DougA]

Was pleased to find out the original dealer for my 70 LS-5 was Baldwin Auto,Baldwin.N.Y.!
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj571/douga3/My_Chevelle_0051.jpg (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/douga3/media/My_Chevelle_0051.jpg.html)

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

Looking for some info on Dale Chevrolet out of Waukesha,WI and Traders Chevrolet out of Greensboro,NC.My 70 L34 Nova came from Dale and my 69Z from Traders.If anyone can help with some info i would appreciate it.Also looking for a Dale Chevrolet dealer emblem for the L34,long gone,but the holes are still there.
Thanks,Roy....

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was wondering about the re-invoiced Zl-1s?? Anyone get the NCRS report back? Do they have Gibb as the dealer? Just curious...
FWIW..my #34 ZL-1 had MSO from Govans Chev..where it was finally sold in June 1970 </div></div>

Great question also interesting MSO result.
Are the NCRS dealer results gleaned from info indicating who GM billed for the car?

Similar thought but different, should reports come back Yenko Canonsburg for all genuine original Yenko Camaros and Deuces regardless of which Yenko Network dealer delivered them new to the customer?
If so, although Jack Douglass ordered/Yenko striped 9561 cars would be an exception, are there any legit others?
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[bergy]

My Stauffer delivered Yenko came back with Yenko Canonsburg as the dealer.

[iluv69s]

Apparently, the Yenkos went to Yenko first and then got sent to other dealers(except the douglas cars)..so therfore the Yenko NCRS data...

Still wonder about the non-Gibb ZL-1's...have to figure they have NCRS data from the newer dealers...

[mr 707]

also my Queen city Yenko-Harrell came back Yenko Canonsburg as the dealer also

[JoeC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was wondering about the re-invoiced Zl-1s?? Anyone get the NCRS report back? Do they have Gibb as the dealer? Just curious...
FWIW..my #34 ZL-1 had MSO from Govans Chev..where it was finally sold in June 1970 </div></div>

Great question also interesting MSO result.
Are the NCRS dealer results gleaned from info indicating who GM billed for the car?

Similar thought but different, should reports come back Yenko Canonsburg for all genuine original Yenko Camaros and Deuces regardless of which Yenko Network dealer delivered them new to the customer?
If so, although Jack Douglass ordered/Yenko striped 9561 cars would be an exception, are there any legit others?
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete
</div></div>

there were the 3 Corvairs, ordered with Don's COPO for the Stingers, that were said to be ordered and sent to Dana. I wonder what they would show as

[PeteLeathersac]

Great info also nice to clarify known genuine Yenko car results are coming in as Canonsburg!
Again is the info being gleaned for the reports not specifically who was billed for the car thus MSO sent to?
As for the Stingers sent to Dana, you'd expect they'd come back Dana as they probably ordered it w/ Don's Copo code also were billed for it so again got the MSO?
Looking forward to seeing other cool developments and avenues this great NCRS service brings to light including connecting patterns to the genuine dealer Supercars!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[camaromb]

Its great that the Yenko cars show up on the NCRS records. I don't believe the Yenko cars have typically shown up on the NICB records.

[Charley Lillard]

My 68 Yenko came up as Yenko but my 69 Yenko did not have the name, just dealer code 898 and zone 13.

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 68 Yenko came up as Yenko but my 69 Yenko did not have the name, just dealer code 898 and zone 13. </div></div>

Which is Yenko Canonsburg, correct?
Did the one that came back noted Yenko include dealer code info the same?

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[Charley Lillard]

68 Yenko came back Yenko, Canonsburg, dealer code 900 zone 13
69 Yenko came back dealer code 898, zone 13

[PeteLeathersac]

NCRS lists both 898 and 900 as known Yenko dealer codes in Zone #13.
Not sure if correct but 899 has been reported as a Yenko code too.
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[67rs/ss]

My understanding is that the dealer codes could change from year to year
or a dealer could move and it would change the dealer code. I think that
is why it is important to list your GM official production date when entering
info to the NCRS dealer code research.

[camaromb]

Anyone hear of Loveland Chevrolet, North Bend WA, dealer code 293 in zone 42? My turquoise Z I've had for 20 years was sold there according to NCRS. It was a Seattle car until I bought it.

[DWCamaro69]

Got my report today. My 69 RSZ was delivered to Harbor Chevrolet in Long Beach, CA. It is still in business! Think there is any chance they have 45 year old records?

[mbxlesney]

Hey Bruce...I had a 1969 Nova SS 350 from Brown &amp; Hoeye. As far as memorbilia when I was hunting down stuff from that dealer I found they had a Decal on trunk lids and License plate frames. Their trunk lid decals were shaped like a Bowtie with rounded top and bottoms and said HONESTLY also. If he needs a couple Brown and Hoeye license plate frames that need restoring send me a PM as I do not have that Nova anymore. Kim

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mbxlesney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Bruce...I had a 1969 Nova SS 350 from Brown &amp; Hoeye. As far as memorbilia when I was hunting down stuff from that dealer I found they had a Decal on trunk lids and License plate frames. Their trunk lid decals were shaped like a Bowtie with rounded top and bottoms and said HONESTLY also. If he needs a couple Brown and Hoeye license plate frames that need restoring send me a PM as I do not have that Nova anymore. Kim </div></div>

Kim, I will let John Platania know <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[MyRed67]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Chevy dealers in Elmhurst, ILL.

1966 it was Tom Edwards Chevrolet and in 1968 it was Zepelak Chevrolet.

Warren</div></div>
Was this all the same business changing hands? I just received my Shipping Data Report on my Nov. 3, 66 built 67 Camaro Coupe. It was delivered to Zepelak Chevrolet Inc. in Elmhurst. Dealer code 600 zone 11. Did this Dealership change hands that many times in a few years? Is it now Celozzi-Ettelson?

[MyRed67]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=MJR]I received my NCRS document today and my 1970 Daytona Yellow Chevelle LS6 came from these guys:
Celozzi-Ettleson Chevrolet
Elmhurst, Il.
Zone 11 Dealer 108

Does anyone remember this car from this area/dealer?

I've talked to Mike Ettleson, the son of Maury Ettleson and he's going to ask some &quot;old timers&quot; if they remember the car.

THANK YOU NCRS &amp; Roy for sending me in the right direction.



Michael

Michael,

Celozzi-Ettleson Chevrolet
Elmhurst, Il.
Zone 11 Dealer 108

Was in my home town.....it was a Great Dealership....remember it like it was yesterday..... a lot of great cars were SOLD from Celozzi-Ettleson Chevrolet. Including a lot of LS6`s.

I almost had the opportunity to restore your Chevelle....former owner had us (NOS Restoration) bid on a Frame-Off Restoration. I would have loved to have restored it.

Dan</div></div>

Dan, if I read right you are from Elmhurst? Do you remember a Zepelak Chevrolet Inc. on Roosevelt in '66/'67?

[Mr70]

I do...Zepelak/C&amp;E are torn down &amp; completely defunct today.
A new Chevy dealership was built recently &amp; located further down the street here called Villa Park Chevrolet.
It's now called Castle Chevrolet today.Has no records at all with Zepelak/C&amp;E.

[dans68]

Loveland chev is a long time dealer in north bend. The building is still a dealership. One of the loveland daughters sold real esate in sammish wa. but may be retired now. Its a small town I bet the north bend napa knows someone that remembers your car they go way back

[camaromb]

Thanks for posting. I have the protect-o-plate, build sheet, log book and dealer inspection sheet but nothing with a dealer name until the NCRS records. Thanks Roy for all the work you have done.

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWCamaro69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got my report today. My 69 RSZ was delivered to Harbor Chevrolet in Long Beach, CA. It is still in business! Think there is any chance they have 45 year old records? </div></div>

Dana, I owned a RS/SS L78 that came from Harbor Chevrolet. I contacted them in 1999 and spoke with the Business Manager Sally Huff who had been there since the early 60's (She retired shortly after). She sent me the &quot;New Passenger Car Sales Journal&quot; entry for my car which referenced the VIN, trade in, selling price and saleman and owners name. I also received a Harbor license plate frame.

Good luck

[MyRed67]

Thanks for response Dan! I do do appreciate you taking time. I have a '67 Camaro that was delivered to Zepelak in Nov. of '66.

[Tarrytown SS427s]

Pleased to learn today that my 66 Chevy II SS sold through Robert in Hicksville LI. Excellent service, and really hope it will be available for fullsize cars someday.

[roeville]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KevinW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just received my letter, I do not know whether to laugh or cry <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif

6/23/69, Dealer code 1, Zone 79 (Hawaii), Dealer Name: GM overseas Distribution

Now what the heck am I supposed to do with that!

I bought the car in north NJ in 82 and it had a Seton Hall University sticker on the window. This car really traveled! LA to Hawaii to NJ!!! </div></div>

Have you discovered anything conclusive? I have the same dealer code/zone for my 1971 Z28. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif

[ken_z]

I received my report Monday, good news/bad news. Found out the car was built on 4/23/69 (a Wednesday):-). It was sold at DeLong in San Rafael CA. Bad news is they are out of business and I live 30 minutes from there. I've had the car since
1986, had I known there were the selling dealer I may have had some luck with paperwork. Guy I bought it from thought the original owner from from SF, so those were the dealers I tried. Car has spent it's entire existence in the SF area. Born in LA, then sent north. At least I know what license plate frame to get.

Ken

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roeville</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KevinW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just received my letter, I do not know whether to laugh or cry <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif

6/23/69, Dealer code 1, Zone 79 (Hawaii), Dealer Name: GM overseas Distribution

Now what the heck am I supposed to do with that!

I bought the car in north NJ in 82 and it had a Seton Hall University sticker on the window. This car really traveled! LA to Hawaii to NJ!!! </div></div>

Have you discovered anything conclusive? I have the same dealer code/zone for my 1971 Z28. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif </div></div>

Some distribution codes likebthis were used to process orders for military personnel stationed overseas without cars ever actually leaving mainland US, was that 'Vette we looked at here a year or three ago Zone 79 too?
Again it seems the NCRS reports are being gleaned from info recorded of who was billed for the cars also the MSO's sent to so the shipping info may sometimes differ?
Back to these Zone 79 cars, it wouldn't be surprising to find they were ordered by military personnel stationed overseas so feel proud also good luck if you dig into this possibility also finding whoever may have ordered them!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif
~ Pete

[roeville]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It was sold at DeLong in San Rafael CA. At least I know what license plate frame to get.

Ken </div></div>

Ken, this guy has your frame and is in Pleasanton.
http://www.calicenseplates.com/chevrolet-frames-listing.html

[TAR6569]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWCamaro69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got my report today. My 69 RSZ was delivered to Harbor Chevrolet in Long Beach, CA. It is still in business! Think there is any chance they have 45 year old records? </div></div>

Their newspaper ads are on newspaperarchive.com If you want to PM me the end of your vin, I can check the ones I jotted down and see if yours was one of them. (I went through all their ads on that site)

[x77-69z28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pleased to learn today that my 66 Chevy II SS sold through Robert in Hicksville LI. Excellent service, and really hope it will be available for fullsize cars someday. </div></div>
I believe Robert Chevrolet is still in business.

[Kurt S]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWCamaro69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got my report today. My 69 RSZ was delivered to Harbor Chevrolet in Long Beach, CA. It is still in business! Think there is any chance they have 45 year old records? </div></div>

Their newspaper ads are on newspaperarchive.com If you want to PM me the end of your vin, I can check the ones I jotted down and see if yours was one of them. (I went through all their ads on that site) </div></div>

Dana / Warren,
Those VIN's should already be listed on the CRG orphan lists.

[DWCamaro69]

Steve, Thank you for the information. It would be great if they had anything. I am going to call them today.

Warren/Kurt, My VIN is L519638. Not on the CRG orphan list. Thanks for information.

[Day2_69Z]

I too received a no records found on a late production 69 Z/28 9N701--9 . ..
Roy sent me back a message stating he IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED with the program...but they are reviewing records as they may have missed some.... re-apply in a few weeks....?

[x77-69z28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: daytwo69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I too received a no records found on a late production 69 Z/28 9N701--9 . ..
Roy sent me back a message stating he IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED with the program...but they are reviewing records as they may have missed some.... re-apply in a few weeks....? </div></div>
Wow! What happened there? Was Roy supposed to get this up and running and then let others take over? This is an outstanding service and hats off to Roy!

[DWCamaro69]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWCamaro69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got my report today. My 69 RSZ was delivered to Harbor Chevrolet in Long Beach, CA. It is still in business! Think there is any chance they have 45 year old records? </div></div>

Just picked this up. Not cheap but cheaper than if my car had come from Dana Chevrolet <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL826/451234/649155/409584119.jpg

[mbxlesney]

Is this the same SCHMIDT in Ohio? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/06/full-444-12662-copy_of_dealership_emblems_014

[bwag]

Yep.The same Schmidt... The Bob Schmidt emblem from Maumee Ohio is one the last chrome bolt on ones used. Originally Bob's father ran Carl Schmidt Chevrolet in Perrysburg ,Ohio from the 40's until his death in the mid 60's. Bob took over the dealership then and didn't change to his own name until the early 70's. The dealership then moved to Maumee Ohio , about 5 miles away, during the 1974 model year.

[wisemanz28]

That dealership is right down the street from me.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: daytwo69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I too received a no records found on a late production 69 Z/28 9N701--9 . ..
Roy sent me back a message stating he IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED with the program...but they are reviewing records as they may have missed some.... re-apply in a few weeks....? </div></div>

What is the back story on this? Who is running the program now?

[x77-69z28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: daytwo69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I too received a no records found on a late production 69 Z/28 9N701--9 . ..
Roy sent me back a message stating he IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED with the program...but they are reviewing records as they may have missed some.... re-apply in a few weeks....? </div></div>

What is the back story on this? Who is running the program now? </div></div>that's what I said!

[TimG]

I'm not sure what's going on with this, I'm involved with NCRS, but I don't have a clue why this service has ceased or if this applies to other lines of GM cars, also.

[enio45]

in a previous thread roy indicated that he was going on vacation for a week or so......not sure if this has any impact??

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The response: 'no longer affiliated' is light years different than a vacation. It appeared this effort was receiving more positive affirmation than anything we've seen in a very long time, so why the 'change up'?

Even for those of us who got perplexing letters, either no VIN found, or codes without names, etc... it is still a positive. I hope this service continues! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[COPO140]

I agree, this is s service we would all love to see continue. I have paid for a request and hope that it will still be honored since I paid for the service. I hope someone will come on here and clarify.

[mbxlesney]

Well the site was still taking money yesterday when I put in an order #1451. Must be alot of takers as from other forums besides here as I saw the highest #s here in the 700s. I hope someone comes on here and lets us know whats up. I have 3 other titles I would like run also when funds become available. I thought I would try the most important car to me first to see if it matches docs and former owners wisdom.

[L78racer]

Here's a long winded Corvette Forum thread about NCRS and Mr. Sinor.
In post no.71 someone states &quot;Currently the Document Validation Service is suspended until further notice. All other documents services will continue an usual.&quot;
I'm not sure what this means. I'm #1117 and still waiting to hear something on my Camaro.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-and-c2-corvettes/3481298-ncrs-absurdity-4.html

[enio45]

I was asked by a member to post this response from ROY.....

&quot;On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:17 PM, Roy Sinor &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:




Tom, NCRS is researching the 69 Camaro and Nova data again. A record was kept of all reports that they considered partial. Each if this will be re evaluated.


I am no longer involved in this research, I can provide you no further information as I do not know their future plans.


Roy &quot;



Sent from my iPhone

[enio45]

Well that thread is interesting to say the least.....

I still have one research request in #1174....so I guess ill have to wait and see what happens

[ZLP955]

In a similar thread over at CRG, June 8, Roy wrote:
&quot;I am no longer involved with NCRS in any shape form or fashion, I'm proud of what this service provides, I'm proud of my service record to NCRS, I'm proud of the lifetime achievement award presented to me last July., I wanted to continue working on this project but will not be doing that.
I no longer have access to any of the information.
Enough said.
Sorry&quot;

And today this:
&quot;I'm pretty sure the service will continue, I'm not privy to any of the details, do not know the plans, or who will process the stuff.&quot;

[WILMASBOYL78]

Well...just when something finally starts going in the right direction it appears the wheels are falling off <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

I was going to send in for the docs on a few of our cars, but haven't gotten around to it yet...looks like it may be too late <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif

Hopefully this will get resolved and back on track.

wilma <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

***update***sent in a request for one of the Novas...got an email receipt...so we will see <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

[MyRed67]

Dan,
would you have, or know anyone who might have old pictures of the Zepelak Chevrolet Dealership?

[PeteLeathersac]

Sorry to read about Roy, hope he's Ok also all works out for everyone!
Heads up Elmhurst guys, a few Celozzi-Ettleson trinkets on eBay also a Zepelak '66 owners manual w/ POP.
Try the links below also there's more C/E items listed too.
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1976-Milk-Glas...=item1c41971a56 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1976-Milk-Glass-Pedestal-Mugs-Celozzi-Ettleson-Chevrolet-Elmhurst-Illinois-/121359506006?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item1c4197 1a56)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/a-Celozzi-Ettles...=item56660bc5dc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/a-Celozzi-Ettleson-Chevrolet-Elmhurst-ILL-Vintage-Advertising-Bottle-Can-Opener-/371079235036?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item56660b c5dc)

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1966-Zepelak-Chev...6d2e&amp;_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1966-Zepelak-Chevrolet-Registered-Owner-Maintenance-Will-w-Protect-O-Plate-V6-/111225564462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item19e58f 6d2e&amp;_uhb=1)

[L72copocamaro]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not sure what's going on with this, I'm involved with NCRS, but I don't have a clue why this service has ceased or if this applies to other lines of GM cars, also. </div></div>

Has the service ceased, or is it just that Roy is no longer involved?

[PeteLeathersac]

Sadly it looks like rough seas happening w/ Roy also the whole NCRS?
Hopefully all's soon smoothed out and the new service is back on track!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-and-c2-corvettes/3481298-ncrs-absurdity.html
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif
~ Pete

[TimG]

I'm sorry to hear about this and about Roy not being involved with NCRS. I've been a member of NCRS since 1990 and love the organization. I've known Roy for years and have absolute respect for him.

[Rixls6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sadly it looks like rough seas happening w/ Roy also the whole NCRS?
Hopefully all's soon smoothed out and the new service is back on track!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-and-c2-corvettes/3481298-ncrs-absurdity.html
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif
~ Pete </div></div>

I read most of that linked thread, and think it's a real shame that the service has been cancelled, at least for now. Hopefully they get it ironed out soon! (For the sake of our old iron <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif )

[COPO140]

I place my order on 5/29 for one of my cars. I sent an email to the service this morning inquiring about my document since I already paid for the service. I received the reply below:

&quot;As the order page indicates “Pleas allow up to 30 days for delivery of ordered documents.” I would anticipate that we will meet that time frame. Your order was made on 5/29/2014 so I would guess you should have it before 6/28/2014&quot;.

John Waggoner
Administrator
www.ncrs.org (http://www.ncrs.org)

This indicates to me that the service is operational.

[Mr70]

Word on the street is that earlier NCRS docs with Roys signature are more desirable.

Is there any weight to this?

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Word on the street is that earlier NCRS docs with Roys signature are more desirable.

Is there any weight to this? </div></div>

Anything to squeeze another buck out of it. (More desirable = more money.)

[enio45]

what is the latest order number from this site that has been sent out to date?

im 1174 and waiting...

[PeteLeathersac]

Good grief and what's next, replica Roy docs...or would that be &quot;restoration paperwork&quot;?
Amazingly bad timing w/ these recent events considering the new NCRS service just got going also all the positive the dealer results were creating!

NCRS still accepting $ for the service is good news as whatever happens, they'll most likely process those paid?
Anyone that needs to may be best to get their order underway immediately, just in case any more bad erupts and things change for the worse?
Whatever happens from here, again best wishes to Roy also the NCRS as a whole!

Reading the 'Vette forum thread posts, when the NCRS verifies claims made for cars running through BJ, are they only confirming a specific car was NCRS certified in the past or do they look for key components still being with the cars and report or note in their files when something major's been removed before auction?
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif
~ Pete

[limerat5]

Good luck Roy and thanks for ur help.:)

[olredalert]

----I would be willing to bet that G.C. is at the bottom of this latest NCRS debacle. G.C. and another member tried their best to get me thrown out of two national meets and didn't succeed. Cant print his name for fear of &quot;legal action, LOL!&quot;. He is a gigantic tool. When they finally lied right to my face I decided enough was enough, even though I had an absurdly low member#. With apologies to members of this great sight who still carry a torch, I don't miss it a bit......Bill S

[Lynn]

Roy is the only one in the organiztion I have ever met personally. A real class act.

Wishing him only the best.

[TimG]

Bill, can I have your low NCRS number??????
I'm pretty high at 15,000.

[Tarrytown SS427s]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: enio45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what is the latest order number from this site that has been sent out to date?

im 1174 and waiting... </div></div>

I was order 1075 and received mine in the mail about a week ago..

[hvychev]

Bill, I may not have a low NCRS number, but my low member number of 553 beats you member number of 796! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif (however TimG's number of 505 beats mine!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif )

[olredalert]

----Frank,,,Your age # really trumps my older than dirt age # too!!!......Bill S

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----I would be willing to bet that G.C. is at the bottom of this latest NCRS debacle. G.C. and another member tried their best to get me thrown out of two national meets and didn't succeed. Cant print his name for fear of &quot;legal action, LOL!&quot;. He is a gigantic tool. When they finally lied right to my face I decided enough was enough, even though I had an absurdly low member#. With apologies to members of this great sight who still carry a torch, I don't miss it a bit......Bill S </div></div>

I would love to hear the juicy details on this story. Why did they try and get you thrown out of a national meet?

-Matt

[GaryC]

I haven't sent in the VIN yet for my Z so I'm sure my number will be pretty high. In perspective, what is really happening here? Is the service affected across the board completely or just a specific car or both just because Mr. Sinor was let go? I see the service is still available on site, but not sure what to expect if and when I apply. What really precipitated all this? Could it be possible that the $50.00 charge was too low and that had set things in motion? Just curious to know what happened, since nothing seems to be too concrete on what I have been reading on other forums, especially the long thread on the Corvette forum. I'm hoping I haven't missed the window for getting the document for my Z.

[67rs/ss]

I have requested 4 early on and received those. I still have 2 request out
#'s 1183 and 1461(requested 6/10/14).

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----I would be willing to bet that G.C. is at the bottom of this latest NCRS debacle. G.C. and another member tried their best to get me thrown out of two national meets and didn't succeed. Cant print his name for fear of &quot;legal action, LOL!&quot;. He is a gigantic tool. When they finally lied right to my face I decided enough was enough, even though I had an absurdly low member#. With apologies to members of this great sight who still carry a torch, I don't miss it a bit......Bill S </div></div>

I would love to hear the juicy details on this story. Why did they try and get you thrown out of a national meet?

-Matt </div></div>

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[ss427copo]

I've read the long thread at the Corvette site. I'm too old to put up with BS that comes with car club membership. When I got my Gen5 Camaro, I had a moment of weakness and joined a SJ Club. From the beginning, I sensed clics, favorites and more. The Camaro group was &quot;invited&quot; to a local Corvette Club Meeting at The former Classic Chevrolet In South Jersey. From the gitgo, I sensed huge egos, &quot;my s**t don't stink&quot; personalities and more. It was my last time attending any more meetings.......

Now I just do lonnng smokey burn outs to impress just one person. Me.

[CC Rider]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ss427copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've read the long thread at the Corvette site. I'm too old to put up with BS that comes with car club membership. When I got my Gen5 Camaro, I had a moment of weakness and joined a SJ Club. From the beginning, I sensed clics, favorites and more. The Camaro group was &quot;invited&quot; to a local Corvette Club Meeting at The former Classic Chevrolet In South Jersey. From the gitgo, I sensed huge egos, &quot;my s**t don't stink&quot; personalities and more. It was my last time attending any more meetings.......

Now I just do lonnng smokey burn outs to impress just one person. Me. </div></div>

Wow Jeff! I've got similar car club stories too, but those are for another day. I've left all but one car club and feel very liberated.

Hope this conflict does not stop a great service. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[ZLP955]

Seems the service continues regardless, the latest NCRS letters are signed by Marilyn Heitzman as the new Administrator.

[tabooo]

Bill, Are you going to Kansas?

[bigsixman]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLP955</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems the service continues regardless, the latest NCRS letters are signed by Marilyn Heitzman as the new Administrator. </div></div>
Glad to hear that the service will continue.

[JohnZ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Reading the 'Vette forum thread posts, when the NCRS verifies claims made for cars running through BJ, are they only confirming a specific car was NCRS certified in the past or do they look for key components still being with the cars and report or note in their files when something major's been removed before auction?
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif
~ Pete



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As I noted in the CF thread, the service provided was to confirm that the car had indeed been judged at an NCRS meet on a given date and had earned an NCRS award; the car wasn't inspected - only its judging/award history (or lack thereof). <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[enio45]

Anybody getting any docs recently??

[LAH]

Doesn't seem to be anyone receiving any new ones without Roy's signature yet that I've heard about. A guy over on Team Chevelle did make contact with the new people in charge and this is the response he got.

&quot;Ok, for anyone that is concerned. I just spoke with a couple people at NCRS about the shipping data report program. Without mentioning any names they said that they had some personnel changes and due to those changes the service had been suspended. However a couple of people had recently agreed to take over the service and things should be getting back under way at this moment. Also was told that someone had been processing the information during this suspension but not mailing anything out. So in other words they had a hiccup in the service and are back under way. Was told people should start to receive the information again shortly&quot;

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=564658&amp;page=8&amp;highlight=

[enio45]

thanks for the update....

[TAR6569]

I remember someone on here was looking for Lang's items

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-70s-Era-Xen...=item58b13a5f64 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-70s-Era-Xenia-Fairborn-Ohio-Langs-Chevrolet-Motor-Car-Co-keychain-CHEVY-/380930514788?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item58b13a 5f64)

[twertsy]

So I take it the only way they will query their information is with a VIN? Seems like if I had the dealer, and the VIN of another COPO car shipped with the one I'm looking for, I should be able to retrieve its VIN? Am I correct that they won't execute this way?

[jannes_z-28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: twertsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So I take it the only way they will query their information is with a VIN? Seems like if I had the dealer, and the VIN of another COPO car shipped with the one I'm looking for, I should be able to retrieve its VIN? Am I correct that they won't execute this way? </div></div>

Since they have the records in a database on a computer they could for example query the database on cars with a manufacturing month sent to a specific dealer and get a list of VIN's.

But depending on how they have made the interface to the database it might be difficult to get the data. My guess is that the interface only have a field for a VIN with a search button.