68 camaro Inspection Paint Color and Locations

[68 DANA]

Are there any publications, documentation or information available that identifies the <span style="text-decoration: underline">correct</span> paint color, factory inspection locations, markings on the chassis and engine bay? Also looking for any information on the proper color (i.e. black) an sheen for the engine accessories.

-Dave

[firstgenaddict]

You can get McNeish's book it has colors, otherwise you would have to mix individual colors to match what you find.

As far as inspection marks, most of what you see on restored cars is no where close to what is found on original unrestored cars.
The best suggestion is to try to duplicate what you find when you carefully clean your parts.

[68 DANA]

Any other publications out there besides Jerry MacNeish's book?

[68 DANA]

Still searching.

[68 DANA]

Does anyone know if there are similarities between the markings between the Camaro and the Firebird? Apparently there are specs on Firebirds. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif


-Dave

[70 copo]

Inspection marks for Camaros and Firebirds produced at Norwood are explained in detail in Echoes of Norwood....

[ZLP955]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Inspection marks for Camaros and Firebirds produced at Norwood are explained in detail in Echoes of Norwood.... </div></div>
Were there any differences in Camaro inspection processes/markings between 68 and 69 (when Firebird production began mid-way through the 69 MY)?

[70 copo]

I am pretty protective of the book research but for the sake of giving you an answer here is an excerpt from the book &quot;Echoes of Norwood&quot; © 2013 Philip Borris


<span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;The audit report was structured to capture quality deficiencies known internally as “classed demerits”. Defects that were identified as part of the audit were assigned class “A”, “B”, “C” and “D” respectively. The class “A” defect had a demerit value of 20 and was considered to be one that if left uncorrected “would or could adversely affect the personal safety of the occupants or the public in general”. When a class “A” defect was encountered on an audit an immediate check was made on the entire production system. The first step was to put a 100% check into effect at or as near as possible to the specific production operation involved. <span style="text-decoration: underline">The evidence of the of the 100% check remained on the affected components of the cars typically as an inspector’s mark with a crayon or a daub of paint indicating that the deficient assembly operation had been performed properly to the production specification. The second step is to then check twenty-five completed vehicles for the continuing presence of the defect. This check begins at the point where the 100% inspection was established and covers the twenty-five units that had just been assembled&quot;</span>. </span></span>


There was little rhyme or reason for inspection marks and as you can see why as they were the random product of the quality process.

Attached is the quality Metric page from June 1969 Enjoy!

[68 DANA]

Phil,

Thanks for information....much appreciated......<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

-Dave

[70 copo]

Thanks... the in plant Quality Metrics really show the actual period correct post assembly condition of these cars...304 discrepancies out of 400 cars examined with visible dirt in the paint.

[novadude]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks... the in plant Quality Metrics really show the actual period correct post assembly condition of these cars...304 discrepancies out of 400 cars examined with visible dirt in the paint.

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I believe it. In reality, a true accurate restoration would not have laser straight panels, perfect gaps, and flawless paint. These cars were not nearly as nice as anything sitting in a GM showroom today.

Maybe through total lack of skill, I end up doing a more accurate job than the professionals? LOL <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[RS_COPO_Canuck]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks... the in plant Quality Metrics really show the actual period correct post assembly condition of these cars...304 discrepancies out of 400 cars examined with visible dirt in the paint.

</div></div>

I believe it. In reality, a true accurate restoration would not have laser straight panels, perfect gaps, and flawless paint. These cars were not nearly as nice as anything sitting in a GM showroom today.

Maybe through total lack of skill, I end up doing a more accurate job than the professionals? LOL <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif </div></div>

Lack of skill...... and a dozen beers is the correct formula.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif

[68 DANA]

Phil,

Just received the book (Echoes of Norwood)....excellent history and very informative. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Jack_Tar]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks... the in plant Quality Metrics really show the actual period correct post assembly condition of these cars...304 discrepancies out of 400 cars examined with visible dirt in the paint.

</div></div>

I believe it. In reality, a true accurate restoration would not have laser straight panels, perfect gaps, and flawless paint. These cars were not nearly as nice as anything sitting in a GM showroom today.

Maybe through total lack of skill, I end up doing a more accurate job than the professionals? LOL <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif</div></div>
Yes, you are absolutly correct that these cars were not perfect coming out of the factory. Cars were flying out of the factories as fast as they could push them. If the doors opened and closed, it was good. Gaps were not even on the radar. If there was a flaw in the roof or B pillar, through a vinal top on it. as for overspray and especially on painted stripes, it was what we today would consider horrible. BUT it is correct on a concourse restoration. I owned a restoration shop for a few years and most people want thier cars &quot;Over Restored&quot; and that is great. Everyone wants to drive a great looking car. I know I'm preacing to the choir here, but offten people think a factory correct restoration is just not good enough and that is just kind of funny to me.

[sixt9rsx33]

When I restored by Gold 69 Z28 i soaked the chasis parts in evap o rust and it revealed all the factory paint daubs. I had this paint http://www.gastanks.com/1967-Corvette-Chassis-Detailing-Kit/productinfo/01-06/ left over from my 67 vette restoration, and used some of the same colors. They appeared to be spot on with the red, white, purple and blues that I found on my 69 Gold Z28.

Lawrence