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Jonesy
11-05-2020, 07:28 PM
Has anyone in here painted an NOS black grille the correct silver?
I have done silver to black for an SS Chevelle and used SEM Landau Black.
But this time I need to go Black to silver for my z/28.
Was hoping to find a spray bomb paint that replicates this the best.
Any got a remedy??
Thanks :beers:
Mr.Nickey Nova
11-05-2020, 08:16 PM
I did mine a number of years back using Eastwood Argent Silver. I would say it turned out good.
Gonna be hard to find a decent spray bomb. Just not that durable.
I did this:
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=151803
Jonesy
11-05-2020, 10:19 PM
Lynn
So you used the PPG color code 3568 did it in single stage PPG Omni?
Your grille color looks great!
I have a body guy who can shoot it. I need to paint the outer part of the grille anyway.
I also need him to paint the grille stiffener.
RALLY
11-05-2020, 10:37 PM
I did mine a number of years back using Eastwood Argent Silver. I would say it turned out good.
I did the same thing with my 69 Z-28 grille. Turned out well also.
Lynn
So you used the PPG color code 3568 did it in single stage PPG Omni?
Your grille color looks great!
I have a body guy who can shoot it. I need to paint the outer part of the grille anyway.
I also need him to paint the grille stiffener.
Yes. I know the original was lacquer, but figured the urethane would be more durable. Yes, singe stage Omni. I realize Omni isn't the top of the line, but being urethane, it will still be more durable than lacquer.
Too Many Projects
11-05-2020, 11:17 PM
AU Omni is single stage urethane and is quite durable too. May be easier for your painter, if he isn't familiar with enamel.
I've used the Eastwood Argent Silver on wheels and it is a decent paint, but the Omni would, in all likelihood, be a better and longer lasting product.
fiveforty
11-06-2020, 01:38 AM
You could have a SEM spray can mixed for the PPG 3568. Here is a Daytona Yellow one I had mixed that I did a grill and stiffner with. Have used alot of these for certain things and always work great. Usually around $25 depending on color.
Jonesy
11-06-2020, 03:11 AM
So can you get this at a local auto body supply and have them make that up?
If so, I may try that. Thanks everyone for all the input. It is greatly appreciated.
Too Many Projects
11-06-2020, 03:26 AM
Looks like FinishMaster or Auto Value may be your best source for SEM custom mix.
https://www.semproducts.com/locator
Unreal
11-11-2020, 01:31 PM
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that in the past, it was recommended that you primer the grille first, with a greyish white primer, and then follow with the argent. Not only do the tabs and such look correct, but the tone of the argent is closer to original. Sorry, I don't know the color codes.
Jonesy
11-11-2020, 02:47 PM
I have the grille out. Its an original black one. Im going to scuff it up and try the SEM custom mix in a spot on the back and see how it compares to my headlight bezels.
We will see how this goes :hmmm:
x33rs
11-11-2020, 04:04 PM
Yes you can certainly have any color mixed and installed in a spray can. Any paint store worth anything can do this for you. It's great for guys that don't have a gun or a means to mix their own paint.
I've had it done many times for customers when I was painting tube chassis cars for a fabrication shop. They wanted little aerosol cans to touch up the roll bars as they get scratched getting in and out, flopping the seat belts around etc...
So if you want a custom urethane paint, Omni, or what ever brand mixed up in a spray can, that's probably the simplest and cheapest solution for guys wanting to shoot small parts.
Yes, most paint stores can put the single stage products in a spray can for you.
My grill was an NOS black grill. I primed it with white epoxy, so that if there were a small chip in the silver, it wouldn't be as noticeable.
enio45
11-12-2020, 01:31 PM
Jonesy, one of the things i did, although on an orig bone color grill was to totally refinish the grill, we completely repainted it the same bone color (customers mix) - then we followed up with the silver, and then the body color overspray on the surround. Looks 100% original. The bone color will help with the silver coverage most effectively.
Also - if you go silver over black then for sure your headlamp bezels will be slightly off....I would suggest a quick respray of those as well. Light scuff and reshoot to get that consistency.
Jonesy
11-22-2020, 06:40 PM
Well I went to the auto body supply shop here.
They looked up PPG 3568 and it’s 1983 Ford Mercury Loden Green.
I definitely did not have that mixed
Lynn are you sure about that paint code?
m22mike
11-22-2020, 08:36 PM
Ppg 8568
Jonesy
11-23-2020, 03:41 AM
Thanks Mike. I give it a try.
X77Z28MP
11-23-2020, 08:40 PM
I know this doesn't belong here but im going to ask. I need to buy a aftermarket 69 camaro grill for a Z28 Can anyone recommend where i can find a good fitting grill > thanks in advance
Too Many Projects
11-23-2020, 09:45 PM
I know this doesn't belong here but im going to ask. I need to buy a aftermarket 69 camaro grill for a Z28 Can anyone recommend where i can find a good fitting grill > thanks in advance
Yes, you would get far more subject dedicated help by starting your own post in the Technical and Restoration forum. Help will be hit and miss in this post.
169indy
06-30-2024, 02:41 AM
Please let me revive this old thread for a current project & products and results for added data and content. I will be shooting my 68Z "DF" 4 rims with:
PPG/OMNI MTK: Acrylic Urethane Single Stage
Code # 8568
Color: GM Argent Silver
Over-On top of: PPG DP90LF Epoxy-Sealer over Glass Bead and Walnut blasted bare steel prepped with Gray Scotch Brite pads.
More to Follow.
Edgemontvillage
07-05-2024, 04:54 PM
Please let me revive this old thread for a current project & products and results for added data and content. I will be shooting my 68Z "DF" 4 rims with:
PPG/OMNI MTK: Acrylic Urethane Single Stage
Code # 8568
Color: GM Argent Silver
Over-On top of: PPG DP90LF Epoxy-Sealer over Glass Bead and Walnut blasted bare steel prepped with Gray Scotch Brite pads.
More to Follow.
Looking forward to seeing the results. From the research I did to determine the "correct" Argent Silver (AS) paint mix for rally wheels, I learned from NCRS research that Kelsey-Hayes used several different shades of Argent over their long production run so NCRS concluded there is no single correct shade of AS.
169indy
07-05-2024, 05:49 PM
I should have shot a series of Tests to accomplish a "Flatter" Finish.
Per spec sheet: SU4985 Universal Matting Agent.
They Came out WAY to glossy, I knew better and have a recovery plan to scuff with 0000 steel wool later on the Face portion that is visible at a later date.
The Silver grain is very tight, fine & well distributed, clean w/o weird tints. It took many many coats to cover the black primer. I shot it within the "recoat" period specified. Patience was required following the Tech sheet. I also did not go crazy on "body" working the Wheels since they cleaned up very nice with Glass Bead & Walnut media & I am not super good or willing to Body work wheels.
I am a Fan of Krylon 1403, but for the durability of a single stage two component product will be better in the long run I feel.
mhm1966
07-05-2024, 06:33 PM
I know I am going backwards with this, but the GM code for Argent Silver is WA 3024.
169indy
07-05-2024, 07:15 PM
You are OK;
GM Code WA3024 cross references to DITZLER-PPG 8568
per:
https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?gmcode=WA3024&rows=50&syear=&smanuf=GM&smodel=&sname=Argent
BillyHawk
07-12-2024, 05:30 PM
I painted one for the first time last month
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