Sweet looking 70 LS6 Dual Snorkle Chevelle on Ebay

[55chevy]

Makes me wish I wasn't poor.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2450078882&category=61 64

[CamarosRus]

As I'm not a 70 Chevelle expert, could someone elaborate on my questions....1)The EBAY 70 Chevelle in above link appears to have a COWL hood.......I thought that the NON-COWL LS-6's got the Dual Snorkel Air Cleaner and the COWL hood cars got the Cowl Induction set-up......2) Did 70 L-78 Chevelles have Cowl Induction Hoods as an option AND Flat Hoods standard with the Dual Snorkel OR maybe prior to January 1970 L-78 Chevelles had an OPEN element Air Cleaner.....Chuck S / Seattle

[Dave Rifkin]

The Chevelle in the ad does have a Cowl Induction hood (technically) but, the hood is not the style that has the vacuum operated flap at the back. I think those hoods with the flap came with the sealed air cleaner while the hoods without either came with the dual snorkel or an open element air cleaner.

[ORIGLS6]

"Frame-off Total Restoration......
Totally Original...... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Absolutely Nothing Wrong with this Chevelle......" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Uh, not exactly! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Chuck,
The SS option included the "Special Domed Hood" but the "Cowl Induction" option featured the vacuum actuated flapper and air cleaner that sealed to the bottom of the hood. These features applied to the L-78 cars as well as the earlier LS-6 cars. Non Cowl Induction L-78s and early LS-6s received the open element air cleaner. The later Non CI LS-6s received the dual snorkle.

Mr. Nelson or Mr. Peters can fill you in on the dates all these changes took place, as well as Greg Carlson; all much more knowledgable than I! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Dennis

[Zedder]

I have some interest in an LS6 currently. Does anyone have the scoop on this car? Legit? Thanks,

Just to follow up on what Dennis already stated..


The 1970 Chevelle SS, whether a "396" or "454" came standard with the "domed" hood. This is basically a cowl induction hood without the flapper. When the car WAS NOT ordered with Cowl Induction the air cleaner could either be the 14" open element air clearner or the dual snorkle unit. The following applied though:

1) SS396 RPO L34...14" open element if no CI
2) SS396 RPO L78...(L78 was canceled very early Dec. '69) either 14" open element or dual snorkle if no CI
3) SS454 RPO LS5...14" open element if no CI
4) SS454 RPO LS6...14" open element or dual snorkle if no CI. In my opinion the 14" open element and the dual snorkle were used at the same time. There doesn't seem to be any definite time frame for the indroduction of one and the discontinuing of the other. It wasn't a "plant specific" item, either. I've heard of the dual snorkle unit being a "afterthought" to noise laws, but I really don't buy into this as 14" open element aircleaners were used on all SHP motors up to that point with no apparent problems.

If Cowl Induction was checked off (irregardless of engine) the aircleaner is the single snorkle base with the seal. The hood will then be the "domed hood" with flapper. Hope this helps.

Dennis thanks for the plug...Happy Holidays..

[TDW]

To be totally original, shouldn't this car have the A.I.R. setup?

Yes, the car should have the A.I.R. setup (smog system), as should all SHP Chevelles in 1970.

[ORIGLS6]

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To be totally original, shouldn't this car have the A.I.R. setup?

[/ QUOTE ]

So how can it be 'Totally Original' if it's had a 'Total Frame-off Restoration'? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

And "Absolutely nothing wrong with this Chevelle" is a bit of a stretch! Probably a very nice car but the description is misleading to us anal purists.

[Musclecarkid]

Greg......Are you sure the dual snorkle air cleaner was available on 70 L78 Chevelles? I always thought the dual snorkle was released later in the production year, after the L78 had been cancelled. Wasn't that air cleaner more common on L78 70 Camaros and Mid 70 LS6 cars, which were built well after the L78 Chevelle had been discontinued? What is the earliest build date 70 SS Chevelle with a dual snorkle air cleaner that can be documented by the build sheet?......Kevin

[TDW]

Well, to me if it has been restored, there is no way the car should be advertised as "all original". Some may differ on this opinion, but aren't they original the way they left the factory? I have read various descriptions of cars that the sellers say are original, and it seems there are very few that actually are real original.

Kevin,

After posting that really late last night, (after a few too many Crown and Cokes no less /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I went back to edit it only to find I couldn't. I think you are correct that the L78 would have been canceled before the dual snorkle would have been released. However I have seen the dual snorkle on a couple of reported L78 cars, but haven't seen any factory documentation showing it to have been available. Sorry for any confusion. Hope you had a Merry Christmas...

Greg

[TimG]

No shots of the engine pad and no mention of paperwork.
The seller states that "he has little knowledge of musclecars". Move carefuly, there are lots of questions that must be answered. Original is a lose term, I guess it could be a restoration to original condition, this is how I looked at it. I see some cars advertised as "original and unrestored" I guess this is repetitive even though I've used this term when selling a car.

[yountto]

Greg, Guys with dual personalities should not drink too many crown and cokes,you may show up at Spring Carlisle as Elvis Presley...... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

That is fuxxing funny..lol /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif hope you had a great holiday Chuck

[Mr Yenko]

What do you consider early? My brother has 2 LS-6 Chevelles with CO code dual snorkels. First car is early feb. built and the other car is june built."MOF"

[Musclecarkid]

Mr Yenko...Being that 70 production probably started in August of 69, a Feb built 70 LS6 would be considered a mid to late production car. This seems close to the point where some late assembly plant changes can be documented. Does that Feb LS6 car have CO in box #55 on the build sheet? Anybody else have any more info to share?....Kevin

[yountto]

Musclecarkid, Just saw the feedback you left for Jefyrock on ebay..I think i need to put you on my blocked bidders list..At least the 80 word maximum for feedback means you can only get in 16 4 letter words at best.....20 if you dont use any spaces..... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[ohhawk]

They might want to put the "chevelle" emblem on the grill of that "totally correct" restored LS6.

One source I have shows the air cleaner transition date on L78 to dual snorkel would have been Feb/70. Wasn't the dual snorkel "standard" on the LS6 but because most LS6 buyers opted for the cowl induction option very few came with the "standard" dual snorkel configuration?

[Mr Yenko]

I understand what you are saying,but the LS-6 option didn't start till around late Dec. 69.So wouldn't that be considered a Early LS-6? Yes, both cars have CO code in box #55 and both air cleaners are with the cars.The Feb. car is a double black,bench seat 4-spd. Scuncio car.And the June car is double black,red interior. Marvin Chevrolet,Chesire Ct."MOF"

[ssl78]

I am no expert but here is what I think is wrong besides what has been mentioned already. Relay is mounted in the wrong place (usually on the wire loom gutter)
missing rear hood to cowl seal
cowl shouldnt have plastic vents
pulleys dont look deep groove (unless he has a thick belt on it)
wrong thermostat housing
wrong master (no bleeders)
wrong valve covers should have stand in front of bolt.