Vintage Wheels

[BillD]

I plan to mount up an old set of Torq Thrust D's this week. Should these be run with tubes? I seem to remember these being tubeless back in the day, but also remember them being leakers. Any suggestions?

[TDW]

Bill..I put a set of 1966 vintage International Dragmasters on my 68 a couple of years ago. They only lose about 10 lbs setting in the garage all year. Not bad at all. Tubeless tires.

[Belair62]

Tubeless...no better looking wheel....

[BillD]

It's never easy!!!!!! I was warned about valve stems, any suggestions as to what to use? A standard stem does not work and while I have found some that will work I have a choice between a stem that looks like it belongs a on Honda Civic with 20" rims or a stem that looks like it belongs on a Kenworth truck. I know its getting a little nutty when you worry about what the valve stems look like............but that is the nature of my mental illness with these old junks

[427TJ]

I've used rubber as well as metal stems on both sets of my TT's and had no problems. Ran them tubeless. Yeah, you gotta' check the tire pressure but you gotta' do that anyway. I don't recall any obvious leak/seep problems. Make sure the stem holes don't have any burrs or hairline stress cracks.

[Belair62]

You should be able to get some normal looking bolt thru crome stems...

[BillD]

Thanks for the help on this. Tires mounted without tubes and no problem holding air pressure.

[Postsedan]

Bill,

Show us a picture with the tire mounted on the wheel.

Dan.

[BillD]

Here's the picture. Anyone know how to keep these clean? The center section of these appear to be bare metal? Is that the way they came originally? Also, what is the correct hardware for mounting the center caps? Thanks for the help.

[BillD]

OK another try on the picture.

[427TJ]

I use Simple Green on all my wheels. Just a light spray and work it with a soft bristle brush if needed. I use Nevr-Dull wadding in a can to keep the polished area bright. For the caps I use stainless 8-32 straight slot screws with stainless flat washers on the center caps and only tight enough to hold the caps. Don't want to crack a cap ear or strip out a hole.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/14x6TTWheels006-1.jpg

[BillD]

427TJ, did you paint the center section on your wheels? Thanks, Bill D

[427TJ]

Bill, I sent you a PM. Yes, spokes were painted silver during restoration.

[Lemans69]

427TJ, What silver did you use on the wheel centers? Is that Rally Wheel silver? They really look good!

[Verne_Frantz]

Does anyone know when the original Torque Thrusts showed up on the market? I'm thinking '63 or '64.
Did they preceed the Cragars, Internationals, early E/Ts (Wheel Centre Co) or M/T Challengers? It would be very interesting to place all the early aftermarket wheels in chronological order of their introductions.....
I'd like to see this thread continue and expand. It could be a real history lesson. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif
After all, it's titled <u>vintage wheels</u>
thanks

[Belair62]

I agree Verne...I have a 6/67 Car Craft mag wheel article that shows a lot of wheels including the M/T #1 wheel as they call it which looks like a Rader....they differ from my set because they describe these as being heli-arc welded and the ones I have are riveted...I'd love to see some chronological mag stuff...I know a bunch of guys around here are into collecting old speed catalogs so...lets see what crops up... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

Let the good times roll.......... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[427TJ]

Romeo Palamides (dragster driver) designed and made the first five-spoke mag wheels in about 1956 and it was he who founded American Racing. The first wheels were magnesium dragster wheels but street versions were available, I think, by about 1958-59. I have an old Rodder's Journal with the Palamides/American story and I'll go dig it up.

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
427TJ, What silver did you use on the wheel centers?

[/ QUOTE ]

The shop that restored that particular set painted the spokes in their "special blend" silver. Here's what the wheels look like. (14x6 with a 225-70 T/A.) One of the great wheel designs of all time!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/14x6TTWheels003-1.jpg

[Xplantdad]

So Bill...when are they going on the Camaro? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[BillD]

Tires and wheels are on the car. I posted a picture earlier in this thread. How do you get the picture to display automatically like the pictures 427TJ posted?

[427TJ]

Oh Bruuuce! Time for another one of your sure-fire Photobucket tutorials!

[Belair62]

Tutorial is in the comment and suggestion forum...

[BillD]

Ok, let's see what happens:

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/200290-ttsmall.jpg

[Lemans69]

Thanks 427TJ. I agree, those wheels are the best! I wish American Racing would reproduce the correct version of that wheel.

[BillD]

Try this for a history of wheels, I haven't spent much time looking at it but at a quick glance it looks like it might be interesting:

http://www.roadsters.com/wheels/#TT

[Pantera]

That was an interesting 1/2 hr of reading. Very informative.

Pantera

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
http://www.roadsters.com/wheels/#TT

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I forgot about this site until now. Great reading!

[Belair62]

OK...Mr70...JoeyB...you guys have old catalogs and stuff...I really love old wheels and I want to track the datelines and evolution...help us out here and post some of this stuff...I'm going to make this a sticky for a while. Everyone ditched their stock wheels as soon as they could. It would be cool to see how they evolved.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

Bob,
That's what I was hoping this thread could turn into. I have a bunch of old catalogs as well and will try to get some wheel ads copied and sent to you (I can't post them myself). I'll send you one now that was posted a awhile back. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Verne

[427TJ]

Here's a story from the July, 1961 Hot Rod showcasing American Racing magnesium wheels.

Page 1
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MagWheelStory61-1.jpg
Page 2
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MagWheelStory61-2.jpg
Page 3
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MagWheelStory61-3.jpg
Page 4
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MagWheelStory61-4.jpg

[427TJ]

This American Racing wheel ad was also in the July '61 Hot Rod. Note the "Torq-Thrust" name is in use as early as 1961.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MagWheelad61.jpg

[427TJ]

The earliest American ad I found in my Hot Rod collection was in the August, 1960 issue:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MagWheelad8-60.jpg

[camarojoe]

I don't collect stuff as far back as 61, but here are a few cool things i was able to dig up from 66-70. Not sure if it helps anyone out in putting anything in chronological order or not, but what the heck...
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201035-ebaypics739.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201036-ebaypics740.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201037-ebaypics741.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201038-ebaypics742.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201039-ebaypics743.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201040-ebaypics744.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201041-ebaypics745.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201044-ebaypics746.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201046-ebaypics747.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201047-ebaypics748.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201048-ebaypics750.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201050-ebaypics752.jpg

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201051-ebaypics753.jpg

[Salvatore]

Great stuff Joe! Thanks for sharing. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[farone]

I've got a set of 15" NOS Cragar "GT" wheels like Joe has pictured.... They weren't offered in too many sizes though... Just waiting for the right car to put them on....

Frank

[ORIGLS6]

Here's what an original set of Torque Thrusts look like. I think these are '67 - '69 vintage. I remember these wheels riding in the trunk of my '57 when we moved into the current house in 1972. A few curb blemishes but they've never been repainted. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[ORIGLS6]

Closer look.

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
I remember these wheels riding in the trunk of my '57 when we moved into the current house in 1972.

[/ QUOTE ]

Torq-Thrusts on a '57--what a classic combination. Add a 327 dual-four Corvette engine, 4-speed, 4:11s, white fenderwell headers, diamond tuck, traction masters, US Royal Masters (taller in back), glasspacks, chrome exhaust tips out the back.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

Yes, a lesson learned for some. The originals had that goldish-brown color on the spokes - not what is usually seen today on "retro" Day-2 cars. Most of them have smoke gray or charcoal gray spokes. Not period correct.......

[camarojoe]

[ QUOTE ]
Yes, a lesson learned for some. The originals had that goldish-brown color on the spokes - not what is usually seen today on "retro" Day-2 cars. Most of them have smoke gray or charcoal gray spokes. Not period correct.......

[/ QUOTE ]

Not entirely true. While some Americans did indeed have the "goldish" cast finish, some definitely did not, and were natural silver in the spoke area. I have seen "NOS in the box" ones both ways. I think it may have to do with the specific year of manufacture. Also, some Torq Thrust copies from the same period, in which there there many, had darker charcoal colored spokes. I believe many A/P torq thrust wheels were factory finished this way.

[BillD]

That is great information on the spoke colors. I have a set (American TT D)with natural color (bare) spokes and did not know if they should be painted or left alone. I guess I leave them alone.

[427TJ]

October, 1962 ad announcing Torq-Thrust wheels for street use.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/NewTTadHRM10-62.jpg

[427TJ]

Early Torq-Thrust look-alike (rip-off, copy) ET wheel offered by the Wheel Centre. August, 1964.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/WheelCentermagsHRM8-64.jpg

[ORIGLS6]

I agree Joey. Weren't the original 'Mag' wheels more of a gold color? As I recall, none of the American TTs were painted. They had a natural finish on the spokes, but some (maybe depending on the year of production) had the gold tint while others were gray. A guy here in town had a full set of 14 x 6s on his new '68 Fairlane and they were the gray finish. Mine (14 x 7s)are definitely in the '67 to '69 range but I honestly can't remember when I bought them.
I also had a set of Keystone copies. They had aluminum faces but were welded to steel rims. Those spokes were darker, and definitely painted. I ran those on a White '65 Impala. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[427TJ]

Mickey Thompson Rader wheel. August, 1964.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MTRaderHRM8-64.jpg

[427TJ]

Astro Wheels ad. August, 1964.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/AstroHRM8-64.jpg

[427TJ]

Ansen Torq-Thrust look-alike, March, 1964.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/AnsenHRM3-66.jpg

[427TJ]

Keystone mags, March, 1966. Looks like a California manufacturer license plate on that Mopar.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/KeystoneHRM3-66.jpg

[427TJ]

Keystone Torq-Thrust look-alike, November, 1966.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/KeystoneTTcopyHRM11-66.jpg

[427TJ]

From April, 1967 comes this wonderful Mickey Thompson ad. Day 2 fans rejoice!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MTadHRM11-67.jpg

[Belair62]

Interesting TJ....the M/T ad mentions "all welded"...Vernes are riveted...they are earlier M/T wheels...I have a NOS set of them too...
[ QUOTE ]
The Mickey Thompson Challenger wheel was introduced in '65, as cast
inside the back on one of the spokes. This one is 14x6. A variety of
bullets, centercaps and spinners were offered. Unlike the new Radir
repops, these wheels have a chrome rim and a cast aluminum center
section that is rivited to the rim. Sealant around the rivit heads or a
tube is required due to leakage.

Verne

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Belair62/wheels/verne1.jpg




[/ QUOTE ]

[Belair62]

Another from Verne

[ QUOTE ]
This ad is from a '65 1/2 Honest Charlie's catalog. The backs of the
wheels are cast "Wheel Centre Co." There is nothing that says "E-T". At
first, "E-T" was just the style name of the wheels, and then later (I
guess) became the name of the company.

Verne



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Belair62/wheels/verne2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Belair62/wheels/verne3.jpg


[/ QUOTE ]

[427TJ]

What a classic look. Five-spokes with whitewalls on a '62 Impala SS. Blue brake drum too! Let me guess: exhaust cutouts behind the front wheels, nose-high stance, chrome-reverse wheels in front--am I getting close???

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/62SSMag.jpg

[427TJ]

Short blurb from the "What's New" section of the May, 1965 HRM announcing the availability of the TT in aluminum for street use.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/AluminumTTHRM5-65.jpg

[427TJ]

ARE ad in the May, 1965 HRM touting the new aluminum TT for street use. Great price!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/AlumTTadHRM5-65.jpg

[Verne_Frantz]

TJ,
The nose-up stance is because the engine is out being rebuilt. The chrome reverses on the front are just temporary rollers. The car had all 4 15x7 E-Ts. That's the way the original owner had it set up back in the '70s, blue drums and all. And you're right......he did have a set of cut-outs welded into the original front pipes. He later removed them and welded plates over the holes! The original head pipes/mufflers are still on the car. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Verne

[427TJ]

Here's a Rader wheel ad from the May, 1965 Hot Rod. Looks like the same wheel and blackwall setup on the black '62 Impala in your photo Verne!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/RaderadHRM5-65.jpg

[427TJ]

Keystone "Kustomag" ad from May, 1965 HRM.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/KeystoneKustomagadHRM5-65.jpg

[427TJ]

"Tenzaloy" E.T. wheels ad from May, 1965 HRM. Clearly, the aftermarket mag wheel marketing blitz was well underway by 1965.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/ETmagadHRM5-65.jpg

[427TJ]

Here's the "Drag Mag" from Foresight Ventures in Oakland, CA. May, 1965 HRM. Nice looking wheel.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/DragMagadHRM5-65.jpg

[Pantera]

I keep waiting for someone to post something on a regional sole mag called "Marbec" that was made in the Dallas area back in the mid 60's. I am not positive about my spelling of this wheel but feel the name is very close.

Every time I was down there to visit my Mother who remaried and moved to FtWorth in '62. I went to the local drive-in's and saw them on many local cars often. Good looking wheels but the only thing wrong with them was you had to change the tires by hand back then. The centers were all one piece and not open and there was no "removable center cap".

This should ID them easy if anyone has come across a deep dish cromed spoked wheel ET styled. They were a deep dish 5 spoke mag. Never saw any without the deep dish. Anybody remember them?

Pantera

[MosportGreen66]

I am going to jump in here and add to the fun. I just sold a 1964/65 Cragar booklet which was perfect for this thread. Most of my stuff is post 1967 but nontheless, enjoy!

First a Fenton Wheel Catalog from 1970...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140029.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140026.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140028.jpg
1967 Nickey Wheels...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140025.jpg

Motion Performance 1969...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140016.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140017.jpg

Cut out from 1967 Motor Trend...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140031.jpg

Cut out from 1970 Hot Rod...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140032.jpg

[MosportGreen66]

Cragar 1969...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140010.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140012.jpg

Cragar 1968 Trade Show file... not much in here...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140014.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P4140015.jpg

I have some others in the mail so as they come in, I will post them here. Enjoy.

Bill, where is that Green background M/T Ad from? I would like to get my hands on one.

[Verne_Frantz]

TJ,
I have never seen any of the 3 ads you posted from the May '65 Hot Rod. I "must" have that magazine in my files. Going to search for it soon.
Yes, the Rader does look just like the M/Ts I have. Little is known. I suspect Mickey Thompson made an agreement with Rader for some rights to produce his own. The mold(s) was modified to include the "M/T 1965" inside the rear of one spoke and they suddenly became M/T mags. At least he did produce a plethora of his own center caps and spinners. In my opinion, his are much more pleasing than the Rader centers. I have quite a collection of the variety he offered, but the ones on the black '62 I call "curvies". I think they must have been mostly a Calif. thing (that more custom look) Honestly, I searched for 10 years to find those spinners, handing out "wanted" photos at every swap meet I went to. As it turned out, a very good friend of mine found a complete set at the Maple Grove Dragway swap meet for $20. a number of years ago and gave them to me. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
Priceless! (I mean the friendship)

TJ, my hat's off to you. You are carrying the banner on this thread. Great stuff!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

Great stuff!
I'd better get a camera and learn how to post my own. I've got a ton of old catalogs.
Anybody have a pic of the Cragar Sport mag? (not the Super Sport). Aluminum center spokes and a chrome rim. Those are the mags I put on the '62 with the slicks in '69. (still have them, and they're like new).

Verne http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[GTO_DON]

[ QUOTE ]
Here's the "Drag Mag" from Foresight Ventures in Oakland, CA. May, 1965 HRM. Nice looking wheel.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/DragMagadHRM5-65.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]I have a set of 4 14x7 wheels for gm if anyone is looking for them. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
TJ, I have never seen any of the 3 ads you posted from the May '65 Hot Rod. I "must" have that magazine in my files. Going to search for it soon.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll PM the cover so you'll know what to look for.

[ QUOTE ]
my hat's off to you. You are carrying the banner on this thread. Great stuff!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I laughed at that Verne! All I'm doing is scanning and posting old wheel ads but it has been fun as well as informative. My son (6 and a car nut) has been sitting on the living room floor going through Hot Rods with me. Beats the H*LL out of watching TV after dinner!

Another fun part of old Hot Rods are all the killer cars as well as famous rods, customs, and drag cars for sale in the Hot Rod Mart at the back of the magazines. It's enough to make you weep.

[427TJ]

Dan, that green M/T ad was in the April, 1967 Hot Rod. That would make a great garage poster wouldn't it?

[427TJ]

Another wheel ad from the May, 1965 HRM is for the Rebel wheel.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/RebelWheeladHRM5-65.jpg

[427TJ]

Every time I pick up the May, '65 Hot Rod another wheel ad catches my eye. I think this is the last ad in the issue!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/AnsenadHRM5-65.jpg

[427TJ]

Here's "The Birth of American Mags" from the Rodder's Journal number 16 story on Romeo Palamides.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/AmericanStoryfromRJ16.jpg

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
My son (6 and a car nut) has been sitting on the living room floor going through Hot Rods with me. Beats the H*LL out of watching TV after dinner!


[/ QUOTE ]

Cool.

[Xplantdad]

"Make a grown man weep" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Just funnin' Bill. Really cool stuff! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[machinist]

Hey guys having graduated high school in 1965 you'll have gone thru my childhood right here in this thread. There were so many wheels that I had forgot about that I want to thank everyone for keeping it going. And to all of those people that were lucky enough to have the money to actually own some of the wheels back in the sixties have pity on the ones of us that couldn't.
Johnny

[427TJ]

I couldn't afford mag wheels either as all of my cash went into the driveline. For the more impoversihed among us there was good'ol Cal Custom with their "Spider" dress-up kit for stock steelies. Hot Rod, May, 1962.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/CalCustomSpyderHRM5-62.jpg

[427TJ]

Anyone ever see a set of these? Looks like they're mounted on a Studebaker Avanti. HRM January, 1964.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MagnasteelclipHRM1-64.jpg

[427TJ]

Another low-buck alternative to expensive aftermarket wheels. HRM April, 1964.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/NamscofakemagcoverHRM4-64.jpg

[427TJ]

The factories got the message and one response to the aftermarket wheel craze was Mercury's 1964 Comet Cyclone wheelcover intended to look like a chromed stock wheel. Were these wheelcovers made of metal? I seem to remember a neighbor's '65 Comet with these wheelcovers and I thought they were plastic.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/MercuryCometchromereverseHRM4-64.jpg

[427TJ]

The message here is that ladies prefer Fentons. HRM February, 1969.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/FentonadHRM2-69.jpg

[427TJ]

American introduced the 200-S or "Daisy" wheel in 1969. My buddies and I called them "flower mags." Note the "hall of fame" wheels at the top of the ad. Torq-Thrust!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/American200-SHRM2-69.jpg

[427TJ]

For my 1,801st post, a word from our sponsor (HRM September, 1960): Pick the LB groom that's best for your hair!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/ButchWaxHRM9-60.jpg

No wonder the women's movement happened. They were tired of constantly washing and changing pillow cases stained by hair goop. Anyone remember the Pomade scene in "Raising Arizona"???

[427TJ]

Another early American Racing ad from the September, 1960 HRM.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/AmericanadHRM9-60.jpg

[John Brown]

[ QUOTE ]
I seem to remember a neighbor's '65 Comet with these wheelcovers and I thought they were plastic.

[/ QUOTE ]

Got a set with my 65 Cyclone. They're some type of Stainless.

[BillD]

A lot of vintage wheels for sale by this seller on ebay here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;rd=1,1&amp;item=8056457575&amp;sspa gename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

No relation to or recommendation for the seller

[PeteLeathersac]

Seen those new retro style 17" rims on the 2006 'Canadian Pony' or 'California Edition' Mustangs....pretty cool for a Ford? . I can't find a closer pic but try this link. .

~ Pete

http://www.goldcountrymedia.com/content/articles/2005/12/17/sections/motoring/01mustang.jpg

[thesupernova86]

[ QUOTE ]
A lot of vintage wheels for sale by this seller on ebay here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;rd=1)

No relation to or recommendation for the seller

[/ QUOTE ]

Here is a link to this guys website he is a wheel dealer.

Vintage Wheel Dealer (http://www.akhwheels.com/)

Does anyone else know of vintage wheel dealers?

[BillD]

Hopefully this link will work, as there are some good wheels up for sale.......on the other hand I would be there are no bargains......and yes as pointed out above this individual sells vintage wheels and wheel accesories

http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZvintageQ2dwhls

[Verne_Frantz]

Hey Bill,
Would it be ok if we left this thread as an historical archive for vintage wheels rather than links to wheels for sale? That could be in the classified section. I'd (personally) love to see this thread become a reference for the Day-2 wheels we all grew up with. Period stuff only...
Just a suggestion.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[BillD]

Hi Verne. No problem from me. I put the ebay link in only because there were some nice examples of vintage wheels that might make a good reference for someone. I have absolutely no interest (good or bad) with the seller. I would be happy to edit out the ebay links to clean up the post. Bill D

[jackal]

have these for my 55 chevy gasser, 1 set is 15 x 4 1/2 with the standard finish center and have another set with the center of the wheel factory polished just on top and the sides are left rough finish, still have the peanut lugnut holes in them thanks jp.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/jackal396/daisy2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/jackal396/daisy7.jpg

[Pantera]

American 200-S are the same wheels that I ran on my Black Motion when I was driving it on the street. Those are my favorite wheels. Don't see too many people running them but I love the look.

Pantera

[thesupernova86]

Here goes an ad for ET's "NEW" supers

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/thesupernova86/scan0002.jpg

[DarrenX33]

[ QUOTE ]
American 200-S are the same wheels that I ran on my Black Motion when I was driving it on the street. Those are my favorite wheels. Don't see too many people running them but I love the look.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would like a set of those for my L78!

[Pantera]

what size do you want I see them from time to time. Pairs are usually how they are sold. send me a message and what you are wanting to pay and I will try to find you some this next few weeks. A few Swapmeets are happening soon.

On a camaro 14" fr and 15" on the back look tough and one of my favorites.

Pantera

[427TJ]

Just found three more ads in the June, 1967 Hot Rod.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/KeystoneHRM6-67.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/FlagWheelsHRM6-67.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/CragarWheelsHRM6-67.jpg

[DarrenX33]

Check this out. NOS 200-S wheels with the plastic still on the the rims. Came with the center caps and lugs. The one on the left has darkened spokes. Apparently from not being boxed. What's the best way to restore the spokes on these? The difference is more obvious in person.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/darren_costello/149-4932_IMG.jpg

[firstgenaddict]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks 427TJ. I agree, those wheels are the best! I wish American Racing would reproduce the correct version of that wheel.

[/ QUOTE ]

You mean like this? This is the TTO Torq Thrust Original.
We just ordered a set for the Black 69 RS Z. with Goodyear Speedway Widetreads.

http://www.americanracing.com/dealerline/blackimages/mega/m309.jpg

[njsteve]

[ QUOTE ]
American 200-S are the same wheels that I ran on my Black Motion when I was driving it on the street. Those are my favorite wheels. Don't see too many people running them but I love the look.

Pantera

[/ QUOTE ]

My car has been running on them since it was new. It's been "Day 2" since day one. This set has a Jan 1970 date code on the back.

[firstgenaddict]

Love those "Coke Bottles"...
Steve the first time I ever remember those wheels they were on a 72 T/A that my dad put 1/4's on for a guy back in the mid 80's.
Hmmmm kinda like yours http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[budnate]

D, I think you want to use that acid wheel stuff we use on the Satin Drag Centerlines..and a tooth brush,,is it not a Eagle product???

might be a good idea to tape off the lip with the special blue masking tape first so you dont loose the sheen you have

[Verne_Frantz]

I'm not sure if anyone put up one of these yet. From Jan. '65 PHR

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/VerneFrantz/Jan65MTad0001.jpg

If you look closely at the hub of the spinner you can see that the tapered edge is rather wide. This is the Rader style. Most spinners that M/T produced had a much narrower edge. Go to the M/T Rader wanted ad and compare to the pic of the wheel on my car. Just another dumb piece of trivia.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Verne

[Verne_Frantz]

For comparison: here are the most common M/T spinners. The tapered edge is smaller than the Rader style. I've never actually seen the style of the one in the ad above, unless it said Rader.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/VerneFrantz/tn_M-TSpinners.jpg

I've found a few other nice vintage ads for more wheels that I will try to post later. It seems that 1965 was a boom year for the industry. New "mag" wheels came out of the woodwork everywhere! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Verne

[Verne_Frantz]

Here are some more interesting ones, all from June '65 PHR

Never heard of these guys at all. I think they were probably selling other people's wheels.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/VerneFrantz/tn_SEwheels.jpg

Here's another fly-by-nite outfit.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/VerneFrantz/tn_CteitzEqco.jpg

Here's a nice masculine name for you. Somehow I don't think it helped them sell any wheels, because I've never seen one. They have a "flavor" of a Keystone Kustomag, but I guess they just didn't catch on.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/VerneFrantz/tn_Climax.jpg

A name we all know, but wheels that seem a little strange.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/VerneFrantz/tn_Ansen.jpg

I'm sorry, but I just had to throw this in. This was on the back cover of that issue and it's just too good to pass up.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/VerneFrantz/tn_Jenkins.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[DarrenX33]

Bud comes thru! EagleOne stuff worked like a charm. No, repeat no elbow grease required. Thank god. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[bkhpah]

Saw these at the recent Goodguys show in Hershey PA. They looked to be a one piece design including the center cap. Any ideas what they are?...BKH

[bkhpah]

Holy cow, my first picture on the site....BKH http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Xplantdad]

Good for you Brian. Now we have got to work on you putting them in the post... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MosportGreen66]

Just picked this little bad boy up... Keystone Catalog ala 1967... I love these color shots!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/Vintage%20Wheels/P1010010.jpg

[427TJ]

VERY cool! Note the larger diameter of the tire stripes on those old Firestones. Coker must have copied a later design from '68-'69?

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[BillD]

Just found this while looking up some other info:

http://home.earthlink.net/~threynolds2/didgeytruck/americanmags.html

[sixbrl440]

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/VerneFrantz/tn_CteitzEqco.jpg

[ QUOTE ]
Here's another fly-by-nite outfit.

[/ QUOTE ]


Bob Creitz a "fly-by-night?" I hardly think so. Very impressive machine shop. Had the first dyno in the area. Still in business here in Tulsa: "Creitz Automotive."

I don't work for him, nor am I soliciting anything. He did a lot of work for me and I was always thrilled with the results of his work/products.

[Verne_Frantz]

I meant that he didn't appear to be in the wheel business very long. Didn't mean to take away any credit he deserves for his other work, but in the history of vintage wheels, his were more of a flash in the pan. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[1967Z28]

Another wheel by Creitz, this one on a '67 Z-28.

-Jon

[camarojoe]

Cool pic, and neat looking fly by night wheels. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[1967Z28]

I understand where someone would not recognize the Creitz name and might think they were a small time operation. Not so. They did make intake manifolds, wheels and other speed equipment. Their bolt-together modular wheel design was years ahead of the trend. Do a search online for Creitz &amp; Donovan and you will see a top-notch AA fuel dragster with serious racing credentials.

Creitz &amp; Donovan AA/FD (http://www.cacklefest.com/Creitz.shtml)

-Jon

[TDW]

Jon...That is a real nice site. Some cool pictures on it too.

[1967Z28]

Some neat history on there. Glad you enjoyed it Tony. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

-Jon

[olredalert]

-----The detail on that fueler is absolutely beautiful. What a restoration!!!!!........Bill S

[427TJ]

My friend Terry Vaughan is a wheel restorer up in Burlington, WA. His specialty is '60s wheels, especially Torq-Thrusts, but he also works on newer wheels too. He is building a new website and I wanted to post it here.

http://mysite.verizon.net/restdtpg/

I bought a set of old TTs from terry a few months ago and here is what he is capable of:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Wheels005.jpg

as well as:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/TorqTrustTerry15x7.jpg

If you have anything to add as far as Terry's site is concerned you can e-mail him at: [email protected]

[Tim Penton]

Those wheels look awesome!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

I'd like to know where he gets his lug nuts from. It's VERY hard to find the shallow shank of the right diameter for the hole in the wheel.

Verne http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[427TJ]

E-mail him Verne. Terry included the correct lug nuts with the set of TTs that I bought from him. No more double-washers, etc.

[BillD]

I wish I known thay you could get the correct lugs. I bought a set of lugs and then had them machined to get them to work correctly.

[427TJ]

Found some more NEAT wheel ads from 1966.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ApacheHRM6-66.jpg


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/CragarsHRM6-66.jpg


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/CycloneHRM6-66.jpg


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/KeystoneHRM6-66.jpg

There's more!

[427TJ]

Magnums for Carroll Shelby:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/MagnumShelbyHRM6-66.jpg


TV Tommy Ivo says it's M/T for him:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/MTadHRM6-66.jpg

Nickey would sell you chrome steelies:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/NickeyadHRM6-66.jpg

[427TJ]

Raders:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/RaderWowHRM6-66.jpg


Sparkomatic wheels!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/SparkomaticHRM6-66.jpg


Aaah, and the beloved Hurst wheel:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/HurstWheelsHRM3-66.jpg

[DarrenX33]

Here a set of those 200-S installed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/dagcostello/IMG_02002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/dagcostello/IMG_02012.jpg

[427TJ]

A few more from the November '66 and April '67 Hot Rod magazines.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/KeystoneHRM4-67.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ETUni-LugHRM4-67.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ETMagsHRM11-66.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/CragarCleanerHRM11-66.jpg

[427TJ]

Found these photos in the October, 1957 Hot Rod.

Article titled "Oakland Strip Star" featuring Palamides Automotive sponsorship and early Palamides magnesium wheels on the rear. Car was owned by Pete Ogden.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/PalamidesWheel1.jpg

Close up of Palamides bolt-on mag wheel.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/PalamidesWheel2.jpg

Also in the 10/57 issue was a feature on the then-dominant slingshot dragster campaigned by Emory Cook and Cliff Bedwell. The Cook &amp; Bedwell car used Palamides magnesium wheels out back. Driver is Emory Cook, who showed Don Garlits how to modify Stromberg carbs for using nitro.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/PalamidesWheel4.jpg

Close up of C&amp;B rear wheel, this one a knock-off. Note logo for Bruce's Tires, an early maker of slicks.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/PalamidesWheel3.jpg

And, also from this issue, an ad for Bruce slicks featuring the Cook &amp; Bedwell car.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/PalamidesWheel5.jpg

[BillD]

Any recommendations for who to use for the restoration of a pair of original Torq Thrusts? Thanks

[Xplantdad]

Bill Eaton should know of someone...Bill, where are you? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[427TJ]

I'll PM BillD.

[Xplantdad]

Thanks Bill! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[chevelleheart]

Has anyone seen the Build sheet for an LS6 build in Arlington on Ebay ? I've always heard that there is no credible/ proven sheet from any LS6 Arlington cars ? any thoughts ? Item # 130043460578

[JChlupsa]

Here is a Wheel article from the June 67 Popular Hot Rodding

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/HawaiianCamaro/Magazine%20articles/Wheels1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/HawaiianCamaro/Magazine%20articles/Wheels2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/HawaiianCamaro/Magazine%20articles/Wheels3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/HawaiianCamaro/Magazine%20articles/Wheels4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/HawaiianCamaro/Magazine%20articles/Wheels5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/HawaiianCamaro/Magazine%20articles/Wheels6.jpg

[68l30]

Thank you! Now I know what those Mark II wheels are....CRESTLINE.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

I always felt they were a 70's made piece....67 is even better... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif


Steve http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427TJ]

Great stuff Jeff! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[TDW]

[ QUOTE ]
Thank you! Now I know what those Mark II wheels are....CRESTLINE.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

I always felt they were a 70's made piece....67 is even better... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif


Steve http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey, I have a set of them too. The backspace is only about 2"s on mine.

[Verne_Frantz]

I'm confused abotu the "M/T No. 1 Mag Type" wheel (the Challenger style). It says heli-arc welded, but every one I've seen was riveted together!

Verne

[427freak]

You have to Love those 5 spokes. I run them any chance I get.
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/320038-tn_68L30Camaro%2811%29.jpg

[ORIGLS6]

I'm guessing 14 x 6 TTDs on the front? Maybe 15 x 7s on the rear? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[427freak]

15X6 D's on front. Good guess though...

[427freak]

One more...

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/320047-tn_Z28RS.jpg

[427TJ]

Those look like '60s Ds or are they the new ones? Either way, SA-WEEET!!!

[427freak]

Dated before we landed on the moon.

[MosportGreen66]

[ QUOTE ]
One more...

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/320047-tn_Z28RS.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Colors, RS, Endura... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

Thanks for sharing Dana!

[The Dude]

14x6 Foresight Drag Mags. I also have a set of 15x7s but they are too wide in the rear.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/DSC05416.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/DSC05417.jpg

[John Brown]

[ QUOTE ]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/DSC05417.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif Pretty wheel !!

[MosportGreen66]

[ QUOTE ]
14x6 Foresight Drag Mags. I also have a set of 15x7s but they are too wide in the rear.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/DSC05416.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/DSC05417.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

LOVE the Olds! Seldom seen wheel choice... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

[427TJ]

They look great, especially on the '65 442. How about some F70x14 (or Gs) Coker whitewalls!

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm confused abotu the "M/T No. 1 Mag Type" wheel (the Challenger style). It says heli-arc welded, but every one I've seen was riveted together!

Verne

[/ QUOTE ]

Me too Verne...I have seen Raders and Sears Raders welded but not the M/T's.

[olredalert]

-------These Foresight wheels were all over the south Florida scene back in the day. The company must have gone after the Florida market very aggressively as I never saw them around very much anywhere else. The deep reverse often called for raised suspensions on both the front and rear, but everyone (including me) liked that look back then so nobody much cared about the loss of handling. Of course the "cool" guys all ran Bluestreak Goodyear dry racing tires on the street. Tires stuck out 3 inches or more were the norm. God forbid we ever run into a puddle!!!!!.......Bill S

[scuncio]

I took one of the Zs out today...weather's finally getting decent! These are 15x6 Cragar G/T wheels from 1966 that I restored over the winter. Center caps were rechomed by Courtesy Metal Plating in Villa Park, IL, and none other than our own Bob G. detailed them!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3116/2412125774_08e9e5a2de_o.jpg

I first saw a set of rough G/Ts at the Jefferson swap meet when I was 12. Finally came across a restorable set on Ebay and picked them up last year. These are composite construction (steel rim, Al center). Fit great on the car and clear the 4-piston calipers without a spacer.

This is a 27000 mile drag car that was fluffed in the mid-80s, so the tow tabs and Cragars are justified!

[Salvatore]

More pictures!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif And why justify the tow tabs and wheels. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Where are the traction bars and headers? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif and while we went this far......the cheater slicks? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
More pictures!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, you can't tease us with one photo of that car! Cragar GTs are cool. Reminds me of the '67 Dana Camaro used for the magazine articles back in the day.

[scuncio]

I will get a few more pics. I have the traction bars off because one of them was cracked near the axle, discovered that when I had the 12 bolt out to go through it. I'm slowly going through the car and fixing what breaks....

[427TJ]

Found some more ads while going through a stack of 1970 Rod &amp; Custom magazines.

Wasn't someone asking about Rocket wheels recently?

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ZRocketMags.jpg

Cragar "Grand Prix"

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ZCragarGrandPrix.jpg

Fenton slots

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ZFenton.jpg

Durachrome

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ZDurachromeMags.jpg

Cragar slots

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ZCragarSlot.jpg

Mickey Thompson "Medalliion"

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ZMTMedallion.jpg

Parnelli Jones slots

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/ZParnelliSlots.jpg

[goinforbroke]

I have a set of Cragars which I think are "grand prix"

[67rscoupe]

[ QUOTE ]
I took one of the Zs out today...weather's finally getting decent! These are 15x6 Cragar G/T wheels from 1966 that I restored over the winter. Center caps were rechomed by Courtesy Metal Plating in Villa Park, IL, and none other than our own Bob G. detailed them!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3116/2412125774_08e9e5a2de_o.jpg

I first saw a set of rough G/Ts at the Jefferson swap meet when I was 12. Finally came across a restorable set on Ebay and picked them up last year. These are composite construction (steel rim, Al center). Fit great on the car and clear the 4-piston calipers without a spacer.

This is a 27000 mile drag car that was fluffed in the mid-80s, so the tow tabs and Cragars are justified!

[/ QUOTE ]


Thats a nice car!

[scuncio]

Thanks! That reminds me I need to post some more pics.

[firstgenaddict]

"Thanks! That reminds me I need to post some more pics. "

Yes you do... that is awesome... it would go great along side the Black 69 with the traction bars and the M/T ET streets.
http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/Wm_69_RSZ_dragstrip_small.jpg

[scuncio]

I love that RS/Z. Need to get mine to the track this summer.

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks! That reminds me I need to post some more pics.

[/ QUOTE ]

Cool wheels Tony !!!

[scuncio]

Thanks Bob!

[BillD]

I just picked up a set of old Appliance Torq Thrust D copies and some American 200S wheels. Both need some clean up/restoration. Any tips that anyone can share on finishes both for the spokes and the rim edge? I prefer to do this myself since most of the restorers I have seen polish the rim edge and this is not the way they were new. Also, the cost of shipping the rims for restoration from the east coast to the west coast and back is pretty costly these days. Thanks for any help.

[scuncio]

I would also like some feedback on restoring original 1960s era Torq Thrusts. I have a set of 15x6 that need to be freshened up.

[427TJ]

Here's my wheel resto guy's work and info. Doesn't like BSers or nickel-and-dime guys but if you are serious and don't BS or waste his time he will gladly help you.


[ QUOTE ]
My friend Terry Vaughan is a wheel restorer up in Burlington, WA. His specialty is '60s wheels, especially Torq-Thrusts, but he also works on newer wheels too. He is building a new website and I wanted to post it here.

http://mysite.verizon.net/restdtpg/

I bought a set of old TTs from terry a few months ago and here is what he is capable of:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Wheels005.jpg

as well as:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/TorqTrustTerry15x7.jpg

If you have anything to add as far as Terry's site is concerned you can e-mail him at: [email protected]

[/ QUOTE ]

[The Dude]

Here is my set of Drag Mags that I just got back from the polisher. A good polisher can restore almost anything.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/olds/dragmahgs-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/olds/dragmahgs-1.jpg

[Salvatore]

Man they are really nice! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I need a pair of 14x6 Appliance wheels to make a set.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[mockingbird812]

I have a set of vintage Ansen Sprint slot aluminum wheels that I am taking to the polisher this week. They are in very nice condition with only a few shallow scratches here and there. The coarse finish on the back of the wheel is very rough and dirty. How should this area be finished? What instructions, specifically, should I give to the polisher to get the best end product overall. And finally, what is the best way to preserve the polished wheel?

Thanks, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[mockingbird812]

I dropped wheels off at polisher. Shop owner's recommendation was to media blast the backs of the wheels to clean them up. If this sounds reasonable would anyone recommend a clear coat or other protective seal over the coarse surface to aid in cleanup from road and brake soot?

[Xplantdad]

I've heard of people clear powder coating the wheels after they are polished...I don't know how it hold up though?

[mockingbird812]

Thanks Bruce. Only want to address the backs of the wheels as they would be a bear to clean up with all of the nooks/crannies/pores etc.

[CamarosRus]

On the subject of wheeling polishing......can anybody recommend a vendor to remove dings &amp; polish 70 Z-28 15x7 Trim Rings, 14x7 Rally Trim Rings, and the Stainless Dish portion of my 1970 PO-2 caps........

Major problem on dings is galvanized backing ring prevents you from hammering out defect.

I would like someone to try polishing ring while mounted on turning wheel.........




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/14x7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/14x71AirValveHole70RallyWheeljpg.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/BabyMoon.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/Ring2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/Ring3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/Ring5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/Ring7xxx1stAnd2nd.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/Ring81stDesign.jpg

[BillD]

Some wheel restoration suggestions on this link:
http://www.roadsters.com/wheels/#TT

[427TJ]

Hot Rod, August 1964

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/Don-Marwheels.jpg

[scuncio]

I recently bought a full set of vintage American 15x7 Torq Thrust D's. Is there any way to date these wheels? Previous owner said they are 1966 vintage but I cannot find a date code.

Thanks,
Tony

[427TJ]

HRM 12/63:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/ARE12-63.jpg


HRM 1/64:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/ARE1-64.jpg

[427TJ]

HRM 4/68:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/HRM4-68.jpg

[427TJ]

Interesting item in the May '66 HRM classifieds:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/HRM6-66.jpg

[427TJ]

HRM 1/66:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/MTWheel166.jpg

[427TJ]

PHR 9/64:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/KensMags1964.jpg

[427TJ]

PHR 9/64:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/Vintage%20Wheel%20Ads/AmericanMags1964.jpg

[ALLZS]

I HAVE A SET OF CRAGAR SCREEMER ALUMINUM SLOTS AND NEEDING THE CORRECT CENTER CAPS IF ANYONE CAN LEAD ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON WHERE TO LOOK ? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[C1SS396]

I found these this year .I had never seen or heard of the company Hollywood Casting (a.k.a Hollywood Mags)..Had to buy them ..

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/c1ss396/tires005.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/c1ss396/3.jpg

[427TJ]

What were they on?

[C1SS396]

[ QUOTE ]
What were they on?

[/ QUOTE ]

I was told the guy i bought them from had on his late 50's Vet.I bought them for a Rat rod project i am planing ....

[Norwood]

These 200s wheels are presently on my 70 Trans Am. I bought these from a friend back in 1975 and had them on the car up until the mid 80s. I put them on once in awhile just to change the look when I go to the local cruses



http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/crabs24/FlathoodtoTAhood019.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/crabs24/FlathoodtoTAhood020.jpg

[Pulnaway]

Norwood, Love the 200's on your T/A. Do you have any pics of it out side? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
'

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camarojoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201050-ebaypics752.jpg </div></div>

I'm just now reading this post, will continue through all of the pages when I have time. However this pic has just solved a long running issue/debate for Deuces, awesome pic Joe!!!!

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[sneha]

These two-piece wheels have a beautiful chrome finish, and would look great on any vehicle, be it vintage or new.

[ghdfans2010]

know its getting a little nutty when you worry about what the valve stems look like.
http://www.ghdtradezone.com/images/funny/GHD_Hair_Straighteners_101.jpg

[BillD]

I picked up an old set of Torq Thrust D's in survivor condition. They do need a good cleaning but they do not need a restoration. The natural centers currently have a gold colored patina and the machined lips are a bit oxidized. I am looking for suggestions on how to gently clean the centers (without loosing the gold tint) and clean the lips of oxidation without giving the lips a polished look. Any suggestions?

[Salvatore]

Try warm soapy water and a semi stiff scrub brush to get into the pores of the wheels. I always start with the most mild applications first and step up the intensity if it is not working. Good luck!

[Jim Ferron]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camarojoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://www.yenko.net/attachments/201047-ebaypics748.jpg </div></div>Since I'm in the picture posting way...What do you think????

First 'Yenko' Motor Wheel Spyders...Then ET 'Torque Thrusts' Then just a pile of redlines...

http://www.classicperformance.com/ebay_pics/wheel22.JPG http://www.classicperformance.com/ebay_pics/wheel44.JPG http://www.classicperformance.com/ebay_pics/wheel11.JPG

[wheelhop]

Jim ,

that 69 chevelle would look good with any tire wheel combo!

Is that the cover car from muscle car review a few years back?

[Jim Ferron]

Yep, that is the one...can't change much on it being a survivor..I can only swap wheels and tires around to keep it fresh for me..in the end i like the SS wheels best...

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://www.classicperformance.com/ebay_pics/wheel44.JPG</div></div>

That look right there is hardest to beat. Spot-on!

[Jim Ferron]

Ever see Joe Guerras 69 Motion Chevelle..the one he just sold? THAT is a look that is hard to beat...[Or even Sam's 69 Z with the Cragars on it]

...but thank you <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Nova Jed]

I just found out that the Cragar G/T's are a steel rim with an aluminum center. Not sure that I would put them on a drag car though?? Pretty cool wheels.

Anyone have experience with getting the Cragar center caps rechromed?

[Nova Jed]

I answered my own last question.

Does anyone know of these Cragar Sparklers like they have talked about on the HAMB? Sorry, I do not have the link. I just Googled Cragar Sparklers and they came up on that board. Pretty cool wheels!

[Plowman]

The Cragar Sparklers look like your Cragar G/T's.

[six-corners]

Cragar Sparklers.

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv16/backwardk4501/DSC02399s.jpg

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv16/backwardk4501/DSC02409s.jpg

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv16/backwardk4501/DSC02408s.jpg

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv16/backwardk4501/DSC02400s.jpg

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv16/backwardk4501/DSC02411s.jpg

[Plowman]

That is what I am talking about,way to go and they look good. Six-corners you got it. Paul

[mockingbird812]

Simply beautiful Dennis! Are they untouched/NOS originals?

[six-corners]

Those are not mine. I posted on the H.A.M.B. site years ago about Cragar Sparklers and eventually someone did post pictures of those. He did state that he might sell them at some point. I am still waiting to see if that ever happens.

[Nova Jed]

Oh those wheels are so sweeeeet!

[Jefferson]

These are some 70's era 5 spoke 14x8 rims. I got them with the car in the trunk with center caps but no decals. I had some vintage american racing center decals made up for visuals but some people have said they could be Keystones.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Jefferso_n/2011-10-18165411.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Jefferso_n/PA180700.jpg

[PxTx]

Car looks great. Wheels seem like they could be 7&quot; wide. How do you know they are 8's?

I looked over to AKH and seems like they could be US Indy wheels

http://www.akhwheels.com/pages/showWheel.php?pk=277

[GTO_DON]

They look like Keystones to me

[Jefferson]

Could be! And I measured them when I installed the new tires last week.

[olredalert]

-----Was that a bead to bead measurement or edge to edge???.....Bill S

[Nova Jed]

This reminds me. I never took pictures of my NOS Kestone mags dated 1969. Nice Nova Jefferson. Any stories?

[PxTx]

Cool Jed, didn't know you had a set. How were they identified?

[Nova Jed]

Identified? They were still in the original boxes with the heavy cast caps and screws. Non unilug too. Flat black centers with brushed outer rim. 15x7 if I remember correctly? I will take pictures and post this weekend.

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1667.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1668.jpg

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1661.jpg

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1672.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1676.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1681.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1683.jpg

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1685.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1684.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Sharp Jed! What a classic!

[Tommy]

Just picked these up today. International Dragmasters 15x8.5. Real nice looking wheel!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/5V45Y45W43pf3o43l2bat5850cee6eeb5150c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/2011-11-05_12-49-27_34.jpg

real dirty, but they should clean up nice


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/2011-11-05_13-29-46_391.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/2011-11-05_13-29-51_568.jpg


Tommy <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[Xplantdad]

Nice!

[Nova Jed]

Nice Tommy! Any center caps?

[Tommy]

No, those spinners in the pic were on them but they aren't the correct ones. I imagine Caps for International Dragmasters are pretty hard to find.

Tommy <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[Nova Jed]

Cragar S/X's

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/PB230037.jpg

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/PB230038.jpg

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/PB230043.jpg

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/PB230052.jpg

[mockingbird812]

OOchee Mama Jed!!! Those SXs look fine and FINE!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Nova Jed]

I only have two, but that's all I need.

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/Cragar.jpg

[COPO_Anders]

I just looked through some Swedish magazines from 1970 (Start &amp; Speed)and found this article. Thought I would post it.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/SS1970Mags.jpg

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/SS1970Mags001.jpg

[Bruce]

Need help identifying these wheels. I just picked them up from our local Craigslist, ad stated they came off a 67 vette.
There are no casting name son back side.
15X8.5

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/bruwster55/15x85.jpg

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/bruwster55/15x85back.jpg

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/bruwster55/15x85-2.jpg
16X8.5

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/bruwster55/16x85-2.jpg

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/bruwster55/16x85back-2.jpg

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/bruwster55/16x85.jpg

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/bruwster55/16x85flange.jpg

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/PB270003.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/PB270002.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/PB270005.jpg

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/PB270006.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/PB270001.jpg

[PxTx]

Wheels looks great! It will be hard for you to decide which ones to run when you're ready.