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Old 09-06-2017, 12:51 AM
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Default WARNING - fueling safety

Please send this information to ALL your family & friends, especially those who have kids in the car with them while pumping gas. If this were to happen, they may not be able to get the children out in time.

Shell Oil Comments - A MUST READ! Safety Alert!
Here are some reasons why we don't allow cell phones in operating areas, propylene oxide handling and storage area, propane, gas and diesel refueling areas..

The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations.
In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline pump.
In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car!

And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling their car.

You should know that Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes. Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release enough energy to provide a spark for ignition.

Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling lawn mowers, boat, etc.

Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, (i.e., solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.)

To sum it up, here are the Four Rules for Safe Refueling:

1) Turn off engine
2) Don't smoke
3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off
4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling.

Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to try and make people aware of fires as a result of static electricity at gas pumps His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.

His results were very surprising:

1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back into their vehicle while the nozzle was still pumping gas. When finished, they went back to pull the nozzle out and the fire started, as a result of a static spark from their bodies from sliding out of the vehicle .
3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished. This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas
6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when connected with static charges.
7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was re-entered and the nozzle was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some resulted in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the customer.
8) Seventeen fires occurred before, during or immediately after the gas cap was removed and before fueling began.

Mr. Renkes stresses you should NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it with gas. If you absolutely HAVE to get into your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you ever pull the nozzle out.

This way the static from your body will be discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.

As I mentioned earlier, companies now are really trying to make the public aware of this danger.

I ask you to please send this information to ALL your family and friends, especially those who have kids in the car with them while pumping gas. If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get the children out in time.

Thanks for passing this along.

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Most people including many car people and racers take fueling for granted, and I can only assume many were like I was...totally oblivious to the real threat of an explosion and fire. I want to share this story with you guys in hopes that some people learn a few thing from this. I know I have. The story is of a friend of mine, a "carburetor guru" who I have also had some dyno tuning and carb builds done through. A very talented tuner, dyno technician and carburetor builder who practiced safety at all stops and is very experienced in handling all fuel types. He then faced a freak fire last December when a sudden explosion in his shop nearly cost him his life while filling a fuel cell on his dyno. Please read on (caption from his friends go fund me page outlining what happened)

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Ryan Brown is a gifted engine tuner and builder of performance engine components who is well known to most muscle car and racing enthusiasts in Western Canada, and whose reputation extends across North America. Anyone who knows Ryan will tell you that he is one of the nicest people you could ever hope to meet. From his shop near Strathmore Alberta, where he works entirely as a "one man show", Ryan has earned the great admiration of all who know him, and has done this without creating a single enemy. Despite Ryan's dedication to workplace and race track safety, on Wednesday, December 7, 2016, an extremely cold and dry day, Ryan had a tragic accident in his shop. While pouring gasoline into a funnel, inexplicably, despite no heat source and no apparent source of spark in the vicinity, the fuel ignited and exploded, severely burning Ryan's entire face and head. He was airlifted by STARS Air Ambulance to the Burn Unit at Foothills Hospital in Calgary, where he will spend at least five weeks. His entire head is badly burned. To date, Ryan has had six major surgeries, which include skin grafting to his cheeks, ears, nose, forehead and scalp, using large tracts of skin harvested from his back, thighs and buttocks. Needless to say, these weeks in the Burn Unit have been and will continue to be unimaginably painful.It seems that the only explanation for the fire is that the air was so dry that static electricity caused the fuel to ignite. This is the kind of accident that could happen to anyone, despite the taking of all appropriate precautions. Ryan's shop and equipment are heavily damaged. More importantly, it will be many months of recovery before Ryan is able to resume his business, and even then, the process of rebuilding his shop equipment and inventory will be time-consuming and costly.
Ryan continues to recover some 9 months later and is finally off the pain meds, but still fights an uphill battle. Here's an excerpt from the Facebook Page for Ryan Brown Performance.

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Just past the 6 month mark (June 8th)... progress in some areas... like getting off all pain killers, certainly makes a person feel more human again! NASTY stuff!! Other than at physio and OT, I'm not in any pain, the issue is that all the skin areas effected on my face are constantly very tight and quite uncomfortable. Not so great news on the eye... Now that the eye lids are separated, I was hoping the eye would pop back open, but that has not been the case. Seems like that is going to be quite the rehab with more surgery not off the table. As I am learning, scars (and I have a ton of them!) take time to heal and become less active, so hopefully it will get better with time.
Getting things sorted in the shop is underway... but it will be well into 2018 no doubt once things get rebuilt. Can't really quantify the damage until you walk thru it... it is a daunting task that we are working on as much as possible. SO MANY people have offered to help and I am constantly humbled by the support!
Seems the phone system in the shop has been down for a while, and I did not realize it.... I can't get into the messages, but that should be fixed soon.
Thanks again for the patience in the frequency of my updates, lol.
Ryan
Bottom line = fueling is volatile at every level, and fueling anything while not being grounded or having anything around that can cause a spark or static discharge is all that's needed to cause an explosion and fire.

Be safe people...it can happen to anyone!
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Never fill gas containers above the ground for the same reason,potential static electricity buildup.
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This is an urban legend that has been around the internet for years.

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Sorry -- but static electricity is NOT urban legend ... the whole issue is people doing DA things while fueling ...

To REPEAT!!!

Four Rules for Safe Refueling:

1) Turn off engine
2) Don't smoke
3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off
4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling.

Just sayin' ... TAZ
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Cel phone use causing gas explosions is an urban myth...
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Never fill gas containers above the ground for the same reason,potential static electricity buildup.
To make sure I understand; when I take my gas containers for my lawnmower to be filled they should not be placed on the ground by the pump when being filled? Where should it be placed?
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Filling a gas container "above the ground" as in the bed of a truck, in the back of a car etc.
That has always been my understanding, fill gas containers "on the ground".
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Some of those truck bed-liners can build up static.
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Filling a gas container "above the ground" as in the bed of a truck, in the back of a car etc.
That has always been my understanding, fill gas containers "on the ground".

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