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Old 12-23-2008, 11:42 PM
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We in Iowa just build it, then get the permits. When they fight you, you tell them you will take them to court for violation of your rights .
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:44 PM
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I built a 40x100 garage behind my house. They tried to stop me. I took them to court & won.
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Old 12-24-2008, 12:25 AM
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:12 AM
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I believe that President Elect Obama may have an Ambassadorship planed for Ken.
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:16 AM
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$28K invested in all the hoop jumping before you ever put a shovel in the ground.

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To build a new papermill in the US on a piece of raw dirt it costs 10 yrs in environmental studies and about 50 mil before you turn a shovel!

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That's only if you don't know who to bribe. (Or is it whom?)
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Old 12-24-2008, 08:53 AM
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We in Iowa just build it, then get the permits. When they fight you, you tell them you will take them to court for violation of your rights .

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My God... you sound just like one of those trial lovin liberal Democrats yellin about their civil rights, and wantin to sue everybody. Geez, you probably got one of those ACLU cards in your pocket.
I'm callin Rush. Your outta the Ditto heads. And where's Kwizz? We know how he likes lawyers.
In keeping with the thread a little, CNN's In the money had a discussion on labor. 10 of the most productive plants in the US, are UAW represented plants. And since the two tiered wage scale system has been approved by the UAW , the difference in wage/benefits/legacy costs is very little.
The issue isn't as much labor as credit availability, and uncertanty about the financial future.
Also, the automakers were qued up to run trucks, SUV's and high dollar high profit models. When gas hit 4 bucks, that market stopped. There was no real leadership towards energy efficient cars, nor any real public demand until the gas crunch. A perfect storm of events it seems.
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:13 PM
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And since the two tiered wage scale system has been approved by the UAW , the difference in wage/benefits/legacy costs is very little.


Common Sense is kicking in..........But.......The Reality is.........The Legacy costs will live on for many years to come.......As it probably should.....as those people worked their lifes under that set of Rules when the Auto Companies were very profitable........Now......What is Fair to them........Tough Call......If the Rules are changed due to the current Economic "Challenges" and the Profit Margins come back in a year or two.....Then What...the newer Hires understand the Rules at the time of their Employment and will have to provide for their future accordingly........What would then be fair to the Retirees...You have to look at this from "BOTH" perspectives......You can't Kill the Patient (G.M...Ford)....or "Keep" things the way they are........Tough Situation........
But.........Don't worry.......Remember....the Politicians know what is "Best" for us "Smelly" Taxpayers and will do the right thing.......

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Old 12-24-2008, 03:20 PM
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WOW Ken. You are the man! Yes, money dried up and the plants shut down. But lets still blame Labor cause it is easier! If we all worked for $5.00 an hour in this country we could still not compete with the Chinese I bet. When trade between different countries started some 200 years ago, we traded for things we did NOT have like silk, tea, some jewels and so forth. We never traded for things we had like steel, food, medicines etc. We just need to start producing the things we used to do on tighter budgets, a breather from the EPA and stricter trade enforcements. Why import something we can produce or make here? We used to lead the Industrialized Nations in everything! We have to get back on track before they remove the word "factory" from our dictionaries.
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:48 PM
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The public wanted SUV & big trucks. GM gave them what they wanted. Gas crunch and G M is the bad guy B>S> Same thing in 1973 nobody learned a thing.
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