Authenticating A COPO

[Super_Z28]

I appreciate your reply ... Is that above and beyond the lame sellers package I can get for $20 ...

[Super_Z28]

I appreciate your reply ... Is that above and beyond the lame sellers package I can get for $20 ...

[Super_Z28]

Thanks Im on it Monday morning

[Hylton]

MTO has records dating back to the first time a vehicle was registered in Ontario. You need to speak to someone at the head office in Kingston to get the info.

[ss427copo]

seems "light" for a COPO car; then again, I haven't seen it either.

[bergy]

There are a lot of rare Canadian cars that have been exported back into the U.S. over the years. If they were Ontario cars (not sure about the other provinces), they had to cross the boarder with an Ontario Used Vehicle Information package. Section 3 of that package lists all previous Ontario owners of the car. Canadian documentation (after 1968) is a wonderful thing, but track down those owners & get statements for your records.

[Super_Z28]

Ill try Keele St and Kingston ... Somewhere the original records exist ... I talked to George at GM Historical about getting the original bill of sale, and though he didnt deny it existed, in he did say the freedom act here in Canada wouldnt allow him to share that info even if he had it...

[DW31S]

For my money, Jerry MacNeish is the way to go. I say this NOT because he is a personal friend, but because in the real world of big-buck Camaros his credentials and "blessings" are well accepted. He is recognized as the "go to guy" to authenticate or DIS-PROVE a collectible Camaro. I know a fellow that found an old race car that has a pretty good likelihood of being a COPO. I keep suggesting that he call MacNeish to verify the car. In my opinion that fee MacNeish charges could add significant value to the car, and if turns out NOT to be a COPO (all signs show it is), then no big deal---he owns the car for about $500.00 more.
I kinda got away from Camaros over the years and concentrated my efforts on my REAL PASSION--OLDSMOBILES. I remember years ago buying some parts from Brauer (Sterling VA) to finish up a '69 Pace Car, and he had just acquired a REAL GM P-O-P machine and tape--we were laughing saying in years people will probably be faking P-O-Ps, stamping blocks, and faking trim tags. Who woulda guessed........................
Oh yea, one more thing, in the Oldsmobile world "F" heads (1970 W-30) are hard to find and very pricey.........now there are more of those heads mysteriously surfacing than Olds made and 1969 H/O intakes are being reproduced--imagine 25 years ago thinking someone would actually reproduce P-O-Ps, trim tags, and CAST IRON Oldsmobile intake manifolds------Oh what a web we weave!!!!

[Super_Z28]

Thanks DW ... Jerry was very gracious in helping me last month on another car matter, and your right he's the go to guy ... I emailed him this morning to see if he would come to Canada as Im sure there would be a long long line up to seek his services ... I asked him last month and he's very busy but said it was a possibilty ... If not I will arrange to take the car to him ... If anyone else is interested in Jerry coming to Toronto, nows the time to let him know ...

[bergy]

For a high dollar car - get every piece of documentation that you can. I see the process as having three legs to rest on: 1. Physical inspection & certification, 2. Factory/dealer paperwork, and 3. Ownership history & contact info.