Camaro History On Display Tomorrow Evening

[Material_Boy]

Absolutely amazing car Phil. I have a couple of questions and I am in no way being critical at all. I notice in the engine compartment pic that top screw hose clamps are used on the heater hoses. I think spring clamps were still being used back then and continued to be used thru 1968. Is that the correct location for the fuel filter? Admittedly I am used to seeing Camaro's with V8's rather than inline 6's so that is probably the correct fuel filter since you describe the owner as very exacting. It just looks kind of aftermarket. Another question I have is why didn't the General use a flashier color with the debut of this car? The gold is beautiful but it just doesn't jump out like a red or yellow ETC. I also wonder why they didn't use a 327 rather than the 6 and an automatic transmission rather 3 on the tree? Who was the target audience back in the day when the car debuted? This was GM's 3 year late answer to the Mustang and I just wonder who they were tying to appeal to.
Thanks for posting the pics of this historic piece of history.

Dave

[markjohnson]

I would've thought "re-body" if that roll cage mount plate was missing from the trunk floor. Maybe I'm in the minority but I really enjoy seeing small scars from the life of an old car. Old roll bar mounts, dented floor pan from a driveshaft explosion, trimmed 1/4 panel lips for big slicks, etc. Just like a human body, every scar has a story behind it.

[ds1]

I read all 22 pages on Team Camaro and find it funny that some people are so stuck up that they look past the fact it is still left and that someone took the time to save the car for all to enjoy. I LOVE the welds left in the trunk. They are character marks from the cars past. When we restore a car we usually leave something behind from its past.

[Charley Lillard]

I love the car and the fact that it was saved also. If it were me and I had chosen to take on the task I think I would have tried to duplicate exactly how it left the factory and that would have meant no clues like the trunk floor. Having 250K into it is hard to believe unless the purchase price was a really high amount. Pretty cool piece of history no matter how it is restored.

[Lynn]

I remember when Charley predicted $100k in resto cost.

Be interesting to know how much was purchase and how much was resto.

And I have to agree on the trunk seams. Don't get that at all. Isn't the picture in race trim enough of a tribute to its history? Maybe they ran out of money and couldn't afford a new trunk pan. Perhaps the budget was very "strict" at $250k. I can hear it now: "No, not another dime".

[Mr70]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What was the &quot;110 Volt Wiring&quot; option? Something to do with lighting for an unveiling?</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was actual 110 volt so they could display the car with installed accent lighting. </div></div>

Phil
Was the car found with this special 110v wiring still intact on the car after all these years?
If not,was it put back on during resto?...and can you show it to us today &amp; how it was intended to work?

Besides no wording on the front fenders,were there any other characteristics that set it apart from other mass produced '67 camaros?

[ds1]

There is no right or wrong when it comes to restoring a car. It is a persons personal choice. Case in point ZL1 number 1. Porterfield chose to restore the car as a race car, not as it came from the factory. He stated he felt it better to leave it as raced because it was cut up. And at that point he had to choose which incarnation of the car he wanted it to look like. I have choose to restore my car to how the first owner had it with a scattersheild, traction bars, Hurst shfter, and aftermarket tach. I like and respect the history of it. The original engine is long gone and have chose to install a CE block. I have talked to many of the EXPERTS and got their input. I keep going back to this is my HOBBY, but investment potential and high dollar restorations kill the fun for the little guy like me. Just be glad it is still around

[70 copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I remember when Charley predicted $100k in resto cost.

Be interesting to know how much was purchase and how much was resto.

And I have to agree on the trunk seams. Don't get that at all. Isn't the picture in race trim enough of a tribute to its history? Maybe they ran out of money and couldn't afford a new trunk pan. Perhaps the budget was very &quot;strict&quot; at $250k. I can hear it now: &quot;No, not another dime&quot;. </div></div>

Good comments. The preference on the restoration and the detail was driven by the way the hobby seeks to expose fakes, rebody cars and clones.

The owner has no financial constraints when it came to the restoration. &quot;The car as restored pays tribute to its Bushmaster race car heritage&quot;, that is a direct quote from him because I too asked essentially the same kind of question.

He is planning a Major car show/auto museum tour with the car in the not too distant future just to let people see it.

[70 copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What was the &quot;110 Volt Wiring&quot; option? Something to do with lighting for an unveiling?</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was actual 110 volt so they could display the car with installed accent lighting. </div></div>

Phil
Was the car found with this special 110v wiring still intact on the car after all these years?
If not,was it put back on during resto?...and can you show it to us today &amp; how it was intended to work?

Besides no wording on the front fenders,were there any other characteristics that set it apart from other mass produced '67 camaros? </div></div>


Rick,

Wiring was not found in the car. The 110V wiring was installed so the car interior areas trunk and under hood could be illuminated with display lights without draining the battery. This was described as &quot;drive the car up to the display spot and plug it in&quot;.

The pilots were distinguished by strange build configurations, 283 engines, exterior paint delete (build in prime) heavy option content, missing option content too- as the early AIM was used and as the pilots were built the revisions to the AIM began.

For example if a part did not fit the part could be modified to fit and an engineering change submitted to revise the part specification. If you look at the 1967 AIM the initial release was on March 1, 1966. If you look further at the revision record there are quite a few UPC's that were revised in May, June, and July, when the pilots were being built and the production specifications were finalized.

[SS427]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no right or wrong when it comes to restoring a car. It is a persons personal choice. Case in point ZL1 number 1. Porterfield chose to restore the car as a race car, not as it came from the factory. He stated he felt it better to leave it as raced because it was cut up. </div></div>

And thank God he did restore it as a race car. Perfect tribute to all that were associated with the car back in the day and in my opinion worth considerably more (and I don't necessarily mean monetarily) as a race car instead of a stock as delivered ZL1.