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From what I remember, the 67 and even early 68 Z/28 did not have the Z/28 emblems on them and they didn't really start promoting the Z/28 until later in 1968. They were looking for promotional funding from Estes. I don't have my books here but found another link with info from a Camaro book. I would have to look it up to check dates. By the way, does anyone know if this convertable Z/28 has AC?
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Joe, a/c is the one of the few options this car does not have. It is loaded, dlx int, fold down seat, am/fm multiplex, console and gauges, tilt, woodgrain wheel, remote mirror, spoilers, bumper guards, and pwr window. I have probably missed something but it has been a while since I saw the car.
There is a picture of the front end of it in Hooper's 67-68 Camaro reference book on page 236. For a car that was this loaded it is amazing that it was not an RS.............RatPack...................... |
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Don't you just hate when cars like this pop up and break all the rules. LOL! Personally, I think if it was a Rally Sport car too, it would have been perfect. I wonder if the car originaly had the crossram with cowl plenum setup before they came out with the fiberglass crossram hood. But like Kevin said, it's hard to compare a 302 to a 427.
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Like Supercars, I had a chance to buy this car when Milton was selling after Jake's death. I also thought it was priced too high, but got caught up in the "wow" factor of the rarity of the car. You know how we play those rationalizing mind games with ourselves when trying to justify the purchase of something very expensive ( I think Milton priced the car to me at $185,000). Well I made him an offer and he laughed. Thank God! Several days later I came to my senses and realized that I had almost given away the ranch for a small block Camaro ( I also have always believed in the more cubes the better).
Milton called me several weeks later and said he would accept my offer, but by then I wasn't interested, which was good for him and for me. Good for him because I heard later that he sold the car for somewhere very close to his original asking price. Good for me because I didn't end up in the "poor house" with nothing but a $150,000 small block Camaro. |
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I think the convertible Z/28 would be worth a lot more if more people knew about it. I had never heard about it until the Internet came along and I saw a picture of it. Has it ever been featured in detail in a magazine or book? I would personally rather have it than a ZL1, but that's just me.
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In my opinion the big block rule would not apply to the rag top Z/28. I don't find it difficult to believe that the value of this car is higher then a ZL1, Yenko, Motion, etc. This is a car that a show promoter can use to draw people to a show. Like a Grumpy Jenkins race car, or a Donahue/Penske TA car, with a little promotion it can be a celebrity status Camaro.
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If we were able to compare "apples to apples"
like a one-of-a-kind SS427 Camaro Convertible to this one-of-a-kind Z28 Convertible, there is no question as to which car would win out in popularity as well as price. But I agree with JoeC, and understand what he is saying. That this one-of-a-kind Z28 Convertible (small block) could possibly win out over a COPO (big block) Camaro. Still my personal preference would be, that if I was only able to own one car, it would be my ZL1 over this Z28 Convertible; yet I recognize many others may prefer the one-of-a-kind Z28 Convertible. |
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I agree Kevin...I would rather own your ZL-1 also !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREE heated storage...just call.
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The '68 Z ragtop is featured in the October '94 issue of CAR COLLECTOR magazine. Neat, neat car. I'd like to see the paperwork regarding the 2x4's, as I'm skeptical that Pete Estes would want to drive a crossram equipped 302 around Detroit. With the 8 '69 Trans Am convertibles trading hands well in the six figures (last recorded sale I heard was $185,000, private sales are probably higher) I can't see how $150,000 plus could be out of line for this car. I don't think that the small block is holding it back, I think its the fact that its a '68 (least sought after 1st gen Z) and that its been so sparsely publicized (as noted earlier). If this was a one of one '69 Z28 convertible in a good color with reams of documentation, and lots of magazine features and appearances to let all the well heeled collectors know it existed, I think it would easily be up in Hemi Cuda convertible territory, eclipsing even the awsome ZL1's. I understand the big block mystique, but that doesn't always hold water when '69 Z28's routinely bring more money than '69 SS396 cars, even with their greater numbers and lack of cubes.
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